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Question on Citizenship
« on: March 04, 2014, 12:09:39 PM »
It is my understanding that my wife will have to renounce her Filipino citizenship in order to complete her United States citizenship.


If she owns land in the Philippines, which only citizens of the Philippines can, what happens?


Any input is greatly appreciated


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Re: Question on Citizenship
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 01:43:25 PM »
Yes, when she takes the citizenship oath, she will renounce her Filipino citizenship.
 
But former citizens can still own and purchase land, just in a smaller amount.
 
HOWEVER, she has the option to hold dual citizenship with two passports. Contact your local Philippine Consulate for details.
 
 
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Re: Question on Citizenship
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2014, 03:04:05 PM »
Post number 3000! Yes, you do have to give up Philippine Citizenship to get USA Citizen status, but after we did that, she got dual US-Philippine Citizenship a while after. We bought our home in the Philippines after that. We went to Washington D.C. to the Philippine Embassy, but at that time you could go to the local consulate, which I think you still can. In California there's one in LA and another in SF. It's not a big, long deal.

http://embassy-finder.com/philippines_in_usa

On existing land holdings already owned, you might have to transfer ownership title to a trusted relative in the interim, but I would definitely look closer into the particulars about the law therein and of course the people involved.

Not saying "DO THIS" but a lot of people don't even bother to transfer their land - property holdings in the Philippines after gaining US Citizenship, because they plan on eventually regaining Philippine Citizenship. It hasn't been a problem as far as we know. My wife's family equally partitioned up some land in Bohol and Mindanao in their children's names and even though my wife's name is on the deeds, we had no communications regarding any possible citizenship--ownership issues. I suppose if we went to sell it, it could possibly be an issue if she was a non Philippine citizen, but not even sure then, because she was born there and was a citizen when it was deeded to her.

Having kids in the USA when the Mother is NOT a US citizen has a few drawbacks. My best bud, who served in Vietnam and was in the Marines, then the Air Force, had very high security clearance and married a Japanese lady. Their son works with the Air Force now (the other son is naturally a Marine) and handles White House communications. But as long as his Mom wasn't a US citizen, it limited his clearance levels.

Interesting fact--because my Grandparents on my Mom's side were born in Ireland, I could have dual USA--Ireland Citizenship/s!
« Last Edit: March 04, 2014, 03:14:45 PM by robert angel »
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Re: Question on Citizenship
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Re: Question on Citizenship
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2014, 03:15:12 PM »
Yes, when she takes the citizenship oath, she will renounce her Filipino citizenship.
 
But former citizens can still own and purchase land, just in a smaller amount.
 
HOWEVER, she has the option to hold dual citizenship with two passports. Contact your local Philippine Consulate for details.
 
 
Ray
Interesting Bozo, I didn't know the ladies had to renounce their prior nation's citizenship in order to obtain ours.  I'm assuming this is not just for the Philippines.  Do you know how quickly they can obtain the dual citizenship?


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Re: Question on Citizenship
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2014, 03:18:05 PM »
Interesting Bozo, I didn't know the ladies had to renounce their prior nation's citizenship in order to obtain ours.  I'm assuming this is not just for the Philippines.  Do you know how quickly they can obtain the dual citizenship?


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With some countries, once you renounce your citizenship and gain US Citizenship, they don't allow dual citizenship. Check your local listings.....
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Re: Question on Citizenship
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2014, 03:24:02 PM »
With some countries, once you renounce your citizenship and gain US Citizenship, they don't allow dual citizenship. Check your local listings.....


Ha! and congratulations on post 3001!


I will have to do some checking, now that you mention it.
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Re: Question on Citizenship
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2014, 07:14:45 PM »

Ha! and congratulations on post 3001!


I will have tthe'o some checking, now that you mention it.
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Thanks for the congratulations. We've been up and down a few 'rows' together over the years, but I'm honestly happy for you, the family and cross cultural life you've created. I think some of the guys here could use some more details, examples you could provide, 'secrets to your success' if you will etc., because you obviously have some experience there, and that'd be great. But if nothing else, the 'Father Time and Ray Show' keeps the peanut gallery a crunching. Now if only we could get the producers and director of the movie 'Step Brothers' to create a similar film around you two Bozos, we'd really have something!!!

Maybe if I part out my long winded posts into paragraph posts, my numbers will catch up with you guys in a few years! ;D
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Re: Question on Citizenship
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2014, 07:33:02 AM »
It's pretty easy to find info that says that like the Philippines, Colombia allows dual citizenship. I imagine the exact details about gaining such may differ a bit. Most countries do allow it though.

You can have several citizenships, as well as US citizenship. It sort of makes me wonder what it'd be like passing through customs and showing passports from three different nations, but it's entirely possible.
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Re: Question on Citizenship
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2014, 08:07:48 AM »
Thanks for the congratulations. We've been up and down a few 'rows' together over the years, but I'm honestly happy for you, the family and cross cultural life you've created. I think some of the guys here could use some more details, examples you could provide, 'secrets to your success' if you will etc., because you obviously have some experience there, and that'd be great. But if nothing else, the 'Father Time and Ray Show' keeps the peanut gallery a crunching. Now if only we could get the producers and director of the movie 'Step Brothers' to create a similar film around you two Bozos, we'd really have something!!!

Maybe if I part out my long winded posts into paragraph posts, my numbers will catch up with you guys in a few years! ;D


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Re: Question on Citizenship
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2014, 04:05:26 PM »
It's pretty easy to find info that says that like the Philippines, Colombia allows dual citizenship. I imagine the exact details about gaining such may differ a bit. Most countries do allow it though.

You can have several citizenships, as well as US citizenship. It sort of makes me wonder what it'd be like passing through customs and showing passports from three different nations, but it's entirely possible.


I have Canadian and US citizenship, but only travel with my Canadian passport.  Occasionally I get asked at the US border why I'm travelling under a Canadian passport, and I just say because I live in Canada. 


The real answer is that it's less complicated and less expensive to maintain only one passport ... and I'd prefer to travel under the Canadian one.


One day I may get Colombian citizenship, but really I don't see myself living there for more than six months in the year ... we'll see ...
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