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How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« on: May 11, 2013, 04:07:02 PM »
Hey all.


I made another post about this in the Asian countries section, but I'm also considering Latin America. I plan on moving to one of these countries, as opposed to bringing a woman back here. I'm 26 years old and 5'5 (1.66 m) and this has caused me to have a lot problems finding a suitable partner in the US (where I'm from).


I do notice that Latin American women tend to be taller than Asian women. Is it safe to assume that I'll encounter the same kind of prejudice that I have among women in the US?


Thank you.  :)

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2013, 04:28:19 PM »
Hi Maverick.
I'm in the same boat....in fact shorter at 5'4". Without generalising too much I think height is an important factor to most women regardless of the country that they are from.
I agree I have faced the same problems in my life where girls in the UK would prefer the taller guys, rather than someone the same height or shorter. But at the same time i have dated girls that are the same height or even taller than me.
I guess it comes down to personal preference for the girls. Height is just another characteristic about you. The same as your weight, age, looks etc. It is something that can't be changed. For some girls height is not an issue, even if you are shorter. I guess they feel what I lack in height I make up in other areas for being a decent guy.
But for other girls it is a major issue. I have actually found shorter women to be more prejudice ( i guess they think the two of us would have tiny kids or something).
In my opinion it does not really matter which country the girl is from. They could have the same issues about height. It just depends on the girl. Whether you choose asia or latin america, height becomes less of a factor, because our other nicer qualities are not over looked as much as in our home countries. I have found both places not to put too much emphasis on physical appearance alone.

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2013, 05:02:08 PM »
Height is important to most women regardless of where they are from. Latin America is no exception. The number one complaint you'll hear from most Colombianas about Colombian Men is how they are generally unfaithful. The second most common is how short they are. Women are programmed by mother nature to be attracted to men they perceive as suitable protectors and providers. This logically has a lot to do with height and muscle mass and how they relate to perceived strength, and body fat percentage and how it relates to speed and agility. Similarly, men are attracted to women with larger breast, smaller waist and wider hips because nature has taught us to subconsciously perceive them as more fertile. We are only a few thousands years out of the wilderness and we're still very much so animals with instincts we uncontrollably follow.

With that being said, I think you'd still have success at 5'4" There are literally hundreds of thousands of women walking around Mexico, Peru, Colombia and Ecuador that are under 5'. I see them all the time. A lot of them are extremely attractive too! Women tend to get taller at you approach Eastern South America. Brazilian and Argentine women are on average the tallest Latinas I've seen. A very high percentage of Brazilian women are over 6' tall. I've often thought the term "Amazon" in reference to big (not fat) women had to originate from someone observing this characteristic in Brazil.
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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2013, 05:06:00 PM »
All women want a tall man. However this is relative to the population. I am average height or maybe just above average in the western world but I am definately tall in South America.
Hence in Latin America two things go to your advantage in regards to height.
Firstly the women are shorter. I.e. much more likely to be shorter than you.
Secondly they are comparing you to other males that are short by western standards.

Your chances of finding a really wonderful woman in either East Asia or Latin America are exponetially higher than in the west - IMHO.

Anywhere in Colombia, Peru or near those countries has millions of great women who are short.

If you focus on women over 25 then you should find that they have sorted out what is really important in a lasting relationship.

In my limited experience, latinas mostly do not have an entire shopping list of criteria for their man. They are far more emotionally mature in this regard than most western women.

What will turn off a latina is if I guy has a complex about his height. I've seen it in action in Colombia. A gringo with a small man syndrome. Never be that guy.

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2013, 06:02:33 PM »
They make shoes that will give you an extra 2 or 3 inches. Any shoe that offers more will make you look silly. But there are some decent looking shoes from about $70 to $100 USD that will make you a little bit taller without anyone knowing. I measure 6'0.5 barefoot and 6'2 in basketball shoes. If you are 5'4 barefoot a normal pair of kicks might give you another inch or 1 1/2 inches. I think you might realistically get up to 5'7 without anyone noticing. At the very least it allows you a chance to make a first impression... aka get in the door.
I would have considered getting a pair or two myself if I was interested in a really tall chick back in the day. So don't be shy about trying them out. Just don't get anything above 3 inches... you don't want to look like you belong in the circus.
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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2013, 06:09:27 PM »
They make shoes that will give you an extra 2 or 3 inches. Any shoe that offers more will make you look silly. But there are some decent looking shoes from about $70 to $100 USD that will make you a little bit taller without anyone knowing. I measure 6'0.5 barefoot and 6'2 in basketball shoes. If you are 5'4 barefoot a normal pair of kicks might give you another inch or 1 1/2 inches. I think you might realistically get up to 5'7 without anyone noticing. At the very least it allows you a chance to make a first impression... aka get in the door.
I would have considered getting a pair or two myself if I was interested in a really tall chick back in the day. So don't be shy about trying them out. Just don't get anything above 3 inches... you don't want to look like you belong in the circus.


Well, I'm actually 5'5 (5'5.5 if we're splitting hairs :P). And I do wear shoes that bring me up to 5'8....which is still short in America lol.




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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2013, 06:12:29 PM »
All women want a tall man. However this is relative to the population. I am average height or maybe just above average in the western world but I am definately tall in South America.
Hence in Latin America two things go to your advantage in regards to height.
Firstly the women are shorter. I.e. much more likely to be shorter than you.
Secondly they are comparing you to other males that are short by western standards.

Your chances of finding a really wonderful woman in either East Asia or Latin America are exponetially higher than in the west - IMHO.

Anywhere in Colombia, Peru or near those countries has millions of great women who are short.

If you focus on women over 25 then you should find that they have sorted out what is really important in a lasting relationship.

In my limited experience, latinas mostly do not have an entire shopping list of criteria for their man. They are far more emotionally mature in this regard than most western women.

What will turn off a latina is if I guy has a complex about his height. I've seen it in action in Colombia. A gringo with a small man syndrome. Never be that guy.


I don't have small man syndrome and I actually do reasonably well even with women in the US. In fact, most people comment on how impressed they are that my height doesn't bother me (which is quite the opposite of the truth lol). But I always feel that they are looking for something better because of my height.


I'm happy to hear that there will be women out there that are willing to look beyond my problem. :)

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2013, 06:15:37 PM »
Height is important to most women regardless of where they are from. Latin America is no exception. The number one complaint you'll hear from most Colombianas about Colombian Men is how they are generally unfaithful. The second most common is how short they are. Women are programmed by mother nature to be attracted to men they perceive as suitable protectors and providers. This logically has a lot to do with height and muscle mass and how they relate to perceived strength, and body fat percentage and how it relates to speed and agility. Similarly, men are attracted to women with larger breast, smaller waist and wider hips because nature has taught us to subconsciously perceive them as more fertile. We are only a few thousands years out of the wilderness and we're still very much so animals with instincts we uncontrollably follow.

With that being said, I think you'd still have success at 5'4" There are literally hundreds of thousands of women walking around Mexico, Peru, Colombia and Ecuador that are under 5'. I see them all the time. A lot of them are extremely attractive too! Women tend to get taller at you approach Eastern South America. Brazilian and Argentine women are on average the tallest Latinas I've seen. A very high percentage of Brazilian women are over 6' tall. I've often thought the term "Amazon" in reference to big (not fat) women had to originate from someone observing this characteristic in Brazil.


I understand the bias against short men (haha I've lived it for long enough :P ). I was just wondering if women in other countries feel the same about it as in the western world. Thank you for your response. :)



I'm happy to hear these things about Mexico, Peru, Colombia, and Ecuador. Latin women are some of my favorites (along with Filipino) so I'll definitely check it out when my military contract comes out!

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2013, 12:56:25 AM »
 I am sort of confused why you would ask about height when you claim to not have much problem with it among American women?


 I saw a some hipster looking dude with a girl that was clearly taller than him. It comes down to confidence I would guess.


 While in Mexico City recently, I noticed quite a few very attractive flacca women that were 5'2 or less. It seems the majority fall around 5'3-5'5.


 


 

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2013, 07:50:25 AM »
At the risk of going (slightly) off topic:


... Women are programmed by mother nature to be attracted to men they perceive as suitable protectors and providers. This logically has a lot to do with height and muscle mass and how they relate to perceived strength, and body fat percentage and how it relates to speed and agility. Similarly, men are attracted to women with larger breast, smaller waist and wider hips because nature has taught us to subconsciously perceive them as more fertile...
All sounds logical but surely the media also has a lot to do with it. Movies, advertising, etc... I'm also curious about the women -> smaller waist bit. Back in the middle ages fat women were considered more attractive. That probably has something to do with it being a more difficult ideal to attain seeing as how food - particularly meat - could be hard to come by. So I'll take your notion that evolution/genetics has something to do with it, and wish to add that scarcity (difficulty to attain) and social notions (advertising, etc... call it hive/sheep behavior if you wish) also play a sizable part in it.

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2013, 08:27:51 AM »
At the risk of going (slightly) off topic:
All sounds logical but surely the media also has a lot to do with it. Movies, advertising, etc... I'm also curious about the women -> smaller waist bit. Back in the middle ages fat women were considered more attractive. That probably has something to do with it being a more difficult ideal to attain seeing as how food - particularly meat - could be hard to come by. So I'll take your notion that evolution/genetics has something to do with it, and wish to add that scarcity (difficulty to attain) and social notions (advertising, etc... call it hive/sheep behavior if you wish) also play a sizable part in it.
I agree. In the argument between nature vs. nurture there is so much evidence in support of both any logical person would have admit they are probably equal contributors to who we are as individuals and a species as a whole. You are absolutely right! Not only in the middle ages, but also during other periods in history, heavier (I wouldn't use the word "fat," because as you stated it was almost impossible to actually find someone we would consider "fat") were considered more desirable. In that respect their is an exception to the small waist rule, but two out of three ain't bad!!!  ;D

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2013, 08:35:29 AM »
... heavier (I wouldn't use the word "fat," ... but two out of three ain't bad!!!  ;D
That's what I meant, but I forgot the politically correct synonym and 'bigger' was too ambiguous.

I'll give you 1.5 out of 3 because I think it wasn't that long ago where African women would let their breasts grow long (which I find hard to call 'bigger') to throw over their shoulder to the baby on their back. Although saying it out loud almost makes it sound like urban myth... Starting to wonder where I acquired that golden nugget of info.

Anyway, you said "a lot" has to do with genetics / cavemen and while I don't disagree I just thought I'd add to that :)

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2013, 09:51:36 AM »
We didn't have a clue as to why we were calling extra tall, dark skinned girls 'Amazon woman' in our school classes, going back to 4th or 5th grade and they not only had that 'look', but if we called them that, they were typically not just tall, but aggressive as well. With girls of that age already typically being taller than all the guys in the class, they could whup just about anyone's azz, male or female!
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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2013, 10:11:36 AM »
I am sort of confused why you would ask about height when you claim to not have much problem with it among American women?


 I saw a some hipster looking dude with a girl that was clearly taller than him. It comes down to confidence I would guess.


 While in Mexico City recently, I noticed quite a few very attractive flacca women that were 5'2 or less. It seems the majority fall around 5'3-5'5.


Sorry about that. I guess I phrased it wrong.


Height hasn't been a problem for things like hooking up/casual sex (but that's after years of doing silly things like PUA). It's MUCH harder to get a reasonably attractive girl into a relationship. When I do, I'm constantly busting my a$$ to keep her. My ex-fiancee told me straight out that my height was an issue. (Could you imagine what would have happened if I actually got married to her?  :o )


So I am definitely able to get girls here, but the lack of respect I get from them is pretty ridiculous. I've found that no matter what I do or accomplish in life, I'm still "just a short guy." I'm just trying to either join a culture that doesn't care about height....or join a culture where I'm either not short at all or not that short. :)

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2013, 10:41:17 AM »

Maverick, I'm on the shorter side too at 5'7, but I'm lucky, I have a British accent that helps distract women... ha


i can tell you that I do not feel as short in other parts of the world such as parts of Europe, Mexico and South America.


In general, Americans are very tall, so yes you will feel better about yourself and more average height in South America or most latin countries.


On a side note, as a shorter person, you will notice that clothes, and suits in other parts will fit you better too as men are closer to 5 6' to 5-9' in most of the world.


Only places I've traveled with people as tall as Americans is Germany and Australia.










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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2013, 12:00:41 PM »
Maverick, I'm on the shorter side too at 5'7, but I'm lucky, I have a British accent that helps distract women... ha


i can tell you that I do not feel as short in other parts of the world such as parts of Europe, Mexico and South America.


In general, Americans are very tall, so yes you will feel better about yourself and more average height in South America or most latin countries.


On a side note, as a shorter person, you will notice that clothes, and suits in other parts will fit you better too as men are closer to 5 6' to 5-9' in most of the world.


Only places I've traveled with people as tall as Americans is Germany and Australia.


Thanks for the response, man! Looking forward to it!

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2013, 03:37:40 PM »

Sorry about that. I guess I phrased it wrong.


Height hasn't been a problem for things like hooking up/casual sex (but that's after years of doing silly things like PUA). It's MUCH harder to get a reasonably attractive girl into a relationship. When I do, I'm constantly busting my a$$ to keep her. My ex-fiancee told me straight out that my height was an issue. (Could you imagine what would have happened if I actually got married to her?  :o )


So I am definitely able to get girls here, but the lack of respect I get from them is pretty ridiculous. I've found that no matter what I do or accomplish in life, I'm still "just a short guy." I'm just trying to either join a culture that doesn't care about height....or join a culture where I'm either not short at all or not that short. :)
In countries like Colombia, Peru, or the Philippines you'll be average height so it won't be as much of an issue as it would be in the US. As some of the others have mentioned, the average height in those countries is way less than here.

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2013, 04:36:20 PM »
I stayed away from this thread yesterday.  I couldn't imagine what useful information could be shared in it.  Just anecdotes, speculation, (unconscious) bias, and several isms.  Today I decided to take a gander.  It wasn't as bad as it could have been.

My experience in Latin America is that height is not a high priority for most Latinas.  I am over 6 feet (183 cm) and I do not feel a particular advantage with the ladies over men below 6 feet tall.  In Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico I have found that the ladies, especially younger ladies, respond much more to what they consider is 'cool' (chevre).  That is most often a man who can dance well and dresses well.  If a man is sharply dressed and can dance well, his height, or lack of it, is irrelevant.  If a man is nerdy, being tall won't help him (nor will money), he is still toast.

That said; in those countries, the ladies are quite short, as Benjio noted.  Brazil is a different matter.  There are lots of tall ladies in Brazil.  My experience is that they prefer tall men, even if he is nerdy.  Brasilieras who are over 5'9" (175 cm) show a lot of interest in tall men and cut them more slack than they would a shorter man.

Still, physical attraction is a highly personal matter.  Your experiences with Latinas likely vary considerably from mine even if you are my height.

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2013, 07:04:24 PM »
I stayed away from this thread yesterday.  I couldn't imagine what useful information could be shared in it.  Just anecdotes, speculation, (unconscious) bias, and several isms.  Today I decided to take a gander.  It wasn't as bad as it could have been.


I appreciate it. In all honesty, I wanted the brutal truth. I don't want to go to one of these countries with my hopes up, then realize that everything is the same as it is here in America.  :P

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My experience in Latin America is that height is not a high priority for most Latinas.  I am over 6 feet (183 cm) and I do not feel a particular advantage with the ladies over men below 6 feet tall.  In Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico I have found that the ladies, especially younger ladies, respond much more to what they consider is 'cool' (chevre).  That is most often a man who can dance well and dresses well.  If a man is sharply dressed and can dance well, his height, or lack of it, is irrelevant.  If a man is nerdy, being tall won't help him (nor will money), he is still toast.

That said; in those countries, the ladies are quite short, as Benjio noted.  Brazil is a different matter.  There are lots of tall ladies in Brazil.  My experience is that they prefer tall men, even if he is nerdy.  Brasilieras who are over 5'9" (175 cm) show a lot of interest in tall men and cut them more slack than they would a shorter man.

Still, physical attraction is a highly personal matter.  Your experiences with Latinas likely vary considerably from mine even if you are my height.


This is good news. For some reason, there was a high population of female Brazilian immigrants where I used to live in New York. I tend to prefer darker skinned women and I noticed that many are of a lighter persuasion.


It's totally understandable for taller girls to prefer taller guys. I get that and no worries. Since Brazil seems like a country with a high percentage of taller women, I'll avoid that place like the plague.  :P


Thanks for the insightful response!

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2013, 07:05:35 PM »
In countries like Colombia, Peru, or the Philippines you'll be average height so it won't be as much of an issue as it would be in the US. As some of the others have mentioned, the average height in those countries is way less than here.


Thanks for the response! I'll be sure to check out those countries first!  :)

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2013, 08:37:22 PM »
Hey all.


I made another post about this in the Asian countries section, but I'm also considering Latin America. I plan on moving to one of these countries, as opposed to bringing a woman back here. I'm 26 years old and 5'5 (1.66 m) and this has caused me to have a lot problems finding a suitable partner in the US (where I'm from).


I do notice that Latin American women tend to be taller than Asian women. Is it safe to assume that I'll encounter the same kind of prejudice that I have among women in the US?


Thank you.  :)


Hi Maverick! 


I am not height challenged, but I have a very large forehead as the hairline has been in a full scale retreat.  When dating, I didn't take myself too seriously and wasn't afraid to joke about my potentially unsexy characteristics such as baldness.  Your height is not that big a thing, IN MY OPINION.  If you are a secure, fun person, that is the most important thing!  Like anyone, you will turn off some ladies, but that is fine, the ones that do accept/like your height will still be plentiful, and are the ones you will need to think about. 

Regarding Colombian ladies in general, I'd say they are probably a little more accepting of many physical characteristics than your typical American lady. 


I'd say just go have a good time and focus on the ladies, damn near all of them are insecure about certain physical traits of their own, which you or I would probably find silly. 


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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2013, 09:31:23 PM »
....damn near all of them are insecure about certain physical traits of their own, which you or I would probably find silly. 
This is a damn good point! I can't tell you how many Latinas I've met SOTB that are physically flawless in my eyes, but they are obsessed with a part of their bodies that fall short of this impossible expectation of perfection that's necessary to be considered beautiful. A lot of them subsequently see themselves as less than attractive because of these one or two little things. It's like an epidemic with Brazilian Women. I've met a lot of them with gorgeous faces and great bodies that take excellent care of themselves, but they don't have D Cup breast so they see themselves as unattractive. Gyms in Rio de Janeiro can charge $200 a month for memberships (and believe me, none of these places can compare to 24 Hour Fitness or Bally's in the U.S.) because Brasileiras are so obsessed with physical fitness they'll pay anything to have access to a place they can work out as often as possible. Another huge issue with older women in cities like Rio de Janeiro is the beach culture. Women tan in the sun all their lives then wonder why they look 60 when they turn 40. I'd be willing to bet that procedures like face lifts and Botox injections are just as common if not more so in Brazil if you compared the numbers to the U.S. The more petite women in Colombia all think they need boob jobs. I don't care how beautiful a Latin American Woman is, if you ask almost all of them will wish they could change something about themselves. Most that have the money to pay for plastic surgery do just that.
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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2013, 11:22:18 PM »

Hi Maverick! 


I am not height challenged, but I have a very large forehead as the hairline has been in a full scale retreat.  When dating, I didn't take myself too seriously and wasn't afraid to joke about my potentially unsexy characteristics such as baldness.  Your height is not that big a thing, IN MY OPINION.  If you are a secure, fun person, that is the most important thing!  Like anyone, you will turn off some ladies, but that is fine, the ones that do accept/like your height will still be plentiful, and are the ones you will need to think about. 

Regarding Colombian ladies in general, I'd say they are probably a little more accepting of many physical characteristics than your typical American lady. 


I'd say just go have a good time and focus on the ladies, damn near all of them are insecure about certain physical traits of their own, which you or I would probably find silly. 


Fathertime!


Thanks for the kind words! I definitely know how to have a good time.  8)


 I look forward to meeting these less judgmental beauties! :)

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2013, 11:22:18 PM »

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2013, 11:24:14 PM »
This is a damn good point! I can't tell you how many Latinas I've met SOTB that are physically flawless in my eyes, but they are obsessed with a part of their bodies that fall short of this impossible expectation of perfection that's necessary to be considered beautiful. A lot of them subsequently see themselves as less than attractive because of these one or two little things. It's like an epidemic with Brazilian Women. I've met a lot of them with gorgeous faces and great bodies that take excellent care of themselves, but they don't have D Cup breast so they see themselves as unattractive. Gyms in Rio de Janeiro can charge $200 a month for memberships (and believe me, none of these places can compare to 24 Hour Fitness or Bally's in the U.S.) because Brasileiras are so obsessed with physical fitness they'll pay anything to have access to a place they can work out as often as possible. Another huge issue with older women in cities like Rio de Janeiro is the beach culture. Women tan in the sun all their lives then wonder why they look 60 when they turn 40. I'd be willing to bet that procedures like face lifts and Botox injections are just as common if not more so in Brazil if you compared the numbers to the U.S. The more petite women in Colombia all think they need boob jobs. I don't care how beautiful a Latin American Woman is, if you ask almost all of them will wish they could change something about themselves. Most that have the money to pay for plastic surgery do just that.


Hmmm....very interesting.


I did venture down to Costa Rica before (though I wasn't exactly looking for a wife at the time  :P ) and I noticed that A LOT of the girls had boob jobs.


I'm not exactly sure how I feel about that (lol), but I'll stay open-minded.


Thanks for the response!

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Re: How Important is Height in Latin Countries?
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2013, 07:34:03 AM »
Maverick, I'm on the shorter side too at 5'7, but I'm lucky, I have a British accent that helps distract women... ha

I'll have to think of something that I can use to distract women too....  maybe that was the missing part!   ;D

 

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