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How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« on: May 11, 2013, 03:33:32 PM »
I'm a 26 year old American currently living in the US. I'm 5'5 (1.66 m) and this has held be back a lot in starting a family here in the US. I was just wondering how much height matters in places like the Philippines. Will this be weighed heavily against me, as it is in the US? I realize that the average heights are lower here, but I was wondering if it is similar to other parts of the world that I've been to where the guy has to be significantly taller than the girl.


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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2013, 03:43:03 PM »
You might be unhappy a bit, especially if you don't play basket ball, (They love, love, love 'B Ball' there) because at 5'5. there's a good chance they'll want you to play center!

 
You'll be just FINE. Some ladies there specifically prefer foreign guys who are a lot shorter than 6 ft. tall, as they feel more comfortable. My wife had some trouble keeping up with my walking, because I'm 6'0 and walk a lot faster than her w/o even trying to, but we met in the middle, adjusting our gait and everything's fine for quite a while now, but it took a while, whereas you'll probably find things easier.
 
All that said, it will differ some from from country to country. In Japan, S. Korea and much of China, people are quite a bit taller than in past generations, as their diet's changed, health care's better, vitamins are more popular and in some cases diets become more westernized to a degree--more red meat and foods their grand parents and parents never saw, or saw rarely.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2013, 03:47:28 PM »
You might be unhappy a bit, especially if you don't play basket ball, (They love, love, love 'B Ball' there) because at 5'5. there's a good chance they'll want you to play center!
 
You'll be just FINE. Some ladies there specifically prefer foreign guys who are a lot shorter than 6 ft. tall, as they feel more comfortable. My wife had some trouble keeping up with my walking, because I'm 6'0 and walk a lot faster than her w/o even trying to, but we met in the middle, adjusting our gait and everything's fine for quite a while now, but it took a while, whereas you'll probably find things easier.


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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2013, 03:59:06 PM »

 
All that said, it will differ some from from country to country. In Japan, S. Korea and much of China, people are quite a bit taller than in past generations, as their diet's changed, health care's better, vitamins are more popular and in some cases diets become more westernized to a degree--more red meat and foods their grand parents and parents never saw, or saw rarely.


I didn't notice this part before. I'm strictly looking at the Philippines because I simply find Filipino women to be far more attractive than any other race (I guess I lucked out in the sense that I find one of the shortest races out there to have the most attractive facial features.  :P ).

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2013, 04:21:05 PM »

Do you think the average American woman would want to be with an NBA center if he did not have a pro contract? Being a six footer may be more of a drawback then an asset in the Philippines

Yes Filipinos tend to be taller then their wives. On the other hand you are about the size of the average Filipino. So while a Ruffa Gutierrez may rule you out you are the size most of the population has always dreamed with.

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2013, 06:16:27 PM »
Do you think the average American woman would want to be with an NBA center if he did not have a pro contract? Being a six footer may be more of a drawback then an asset in the Philippines

Yes Filipinos tend to be taller then their wives. On the other hand you are about the size of the average Filipino. So while a Ruffa Gutierrez may rule you out you are the size most of the population has always dreamed with.


Thanks for the response! Also very uplifting! :)

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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2013, 09:16:53 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Average_height_around_the_world
 
Various sites seem to peg the average Filipino adult male's height at anywhere from 5 ft, 3.5 inches and 5ft, 4.5 inches. The larger the sample, the closer to a 5 ft.3 inch height
 
 
Then again, it seems the somewhat taller guys are in the metro Manila area. But with 7000 islands, some folks are pretty isolated from one another and average height varies quite a lot,
 
 I have seen some places where the women were shorter than you'd expect--the overall average  given  for the entire nation is under 5 ft. for women. I know on Mindanao, there are a whole lot of women--some who are very pretty and well proportioned, who are 4'7, 4'8 and so on.
 
This area and the Visayas in general, is usually credited with having the earliest inhabitants of the Philipppines, estimated to have arrived some 20,000 to 30,000 years, or approx. 25,000 BR. (25,000 years before Ray)There are different names for differering 'tribes' if you will, but they're often referred to as aboriginal 'Negrito' people. They are usually much shorter than most Filipinos. Like the Australian aboriginal people and the native American Indians, they have been treated terribly from the day the first outsiders arrived, on to this very day.
 
As a token measure of (brief) kindness, I have seen the govt. go up and into the mountains, round up these people up and after giving them little gifts, allowing them to beg on the streets for more material things, before being taken back to their 'home'. It's a sad sight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ati_(tribe)
 
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2013, 09:27:27 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Average_height_around_the_world
 
Various sites seem to peg the average Filipino adult male's height at anywhere from 5 ft, 3.5 inches and 5ft, 4.5 inches. The larger the sample, the closer to a 5 ft.3 inch height
 
 
Then again, it seems the somewhat taller guys are in the metro Manila area. But with 7000 islands, some folks are pretty isolated from one another and average height varies quite a lot,
 
 I have seen some places where the women were shorter than you'd expect--the overall average  given  for the entire nation is under 5 ft. for women. I know on Mindanao, there are a whole lot of women--some who are very pretty and well proportioned, who are 4'7, 4'8 and so on.
 
This area and the Visayas in general, is usually credited with having the earliest inhabitants of the Philipppines, estimated to have arrived some 20,000 to 30,000 years, or approx. 25,000 BR. (25,000 years before Ray)There are different names for differering 'tribes' if you will, but they're often referred to as aboriginal 'Negrito' people. They are usually much shorter than most Filipinos. Like the Australian aboriginal people and the native American Indians, they have been treated terribly from the day the first outsiders arrived, on to this very day.
 
As a token measure of (brief) kindness, I have seen the govt. go up and into the mountains, round up these people up and after giving them little gifts, allowing them to beg on the streets for more material things, before being taken back to their 'home'. It's a sad sight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ati_(tribe)


Damn, that's rough. Maybe I'll stop by there first and give out some of my material possessions that I don't need. :)


But, yeah, I don't need to be the tallest person in the area. I just don't want to be the shortest like I am here. :P


Thanks for the info!

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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2013, 10:38:53 PM »
Hey Maverick,
 
From my experience, your height simply will not be a significant issue in the PI. For the 1% or less of Filipina women who wouldn’t consider a relationship with you because of your height, those shallow ladies aren’t worth wasting your time on anyway.
 
Your will find that your height has a lot of advantages in the Philippines. I’m 6’5’’ and it is hard to fit in a country where almost everything is designed for short folks. If I had a peso for every time I smacked my head getting in or out of a jeepney, tricycle, or multi-cab, I would probably have enough to retire over there.
 
The doorways in homes are too short, the furniture is too small, I can’t find clothes to fit me over there, the blankets are too short, when in a crowd (like in church), I stick out above EVERYONE, etc., etc., etc…
 
My advice would be to try to put the height issue out of your mind when you visit there and concentrate on having a good time. Don’t sweat the small stuff…  :D
 
BTW, where are you in California? Which branch of service?
 
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2013, 10:05:29 AM »
Hey Maverick,
 
From my experience, your height simply will not be a significant issue in the PI. For the 1% or less of Filipina women who wouldn’t consider a relationship with you because of your height, those shallow ladies aren’t worth wasting your time on anyway.
 
Your will find that your height has a lot of advantages in the Philippines. I’m 6’5’’ and it is hard to fit in a country where almost everything is designed for short folks. If I had a peso for every time I smacked my head getting in or out of a jeepney, tricycle, or multi-cab, I would probably have enough to retire over there.
 
The doorways in homes are too short, the furniture is too small, I can’t find clothes to fit me over there, the blankets are too short, when in a crowd (like in church), I stick out above EVERYONE, etc., etc., etc…
 
My advice would be to try to put the height issue out of your mind when you visit there and concentrate on having a good time. Don’t sweat the small stuff…  :D
 
BTW, where are you in California? Which branch of service?
 
Ray
 



Thanks for the response! That sounds awesome! :)


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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2013, 06:00:51 PM »
All that said, it will differ some from from country to country. In Japan, S. Korea and much of China, people are quite a bit taller than in past generations, as their diet's changed, health care's better, vitamins are more popular and in some cases diets become more westernized to a degree--more red meat and foods their grand parents and parents never saw, or saw rarely.
I asked the missus about this and she concurs.  The average height for a young male Japanese today is about 170 cm, much taller than their father's generation that were born or grew up in the post-war era.  So younger J-girls today are looking for that height in a partner.  But there are still plenty of very petite women that Maverick would tower over.  But if he is looking for better odds, 166 cm is still above average in both the Phils and mainland China.  See here.
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2013, 06:55:31 PM »
I asked the missus about this and she concurs.  The average height for a young male Japanese today is about 170 cm, much taller than their father's generation that were born or grew up in the post-war era.  So younger J-girls today are looking for that height in a partner.  But there are still plenty of very petite women that Maverick would tower over.  But if he is looking for better odds, 166 cm is still above average in both the Phils and mainland China.  See here.


Thanks for the info! Special thanks for asking your wife!


I find Filipinos to be the most attractive anyway. So I guess I'm in luck!  :D

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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2013, 08:44:07 PM »
The information isn't current, as N. Korea's very secretive and what info that is out is usually about 6 or 7 years old, but it is said that on average a S. Korean guy today is a good for or five inches taller than a male in his neighboring N. Korea---which is geographically (but far from politically) only separated by the 38th parellel. It is about 160 miles long and 4 miles wide.  N. Korea for the last few generations, has had difficulty with supplying their own people with home grown, nuritious food, tlthough their military is said to  eat quite well.


 
I guess in the USA that we've been on the same diet of apple pie, hot dogs and twinkies for so long that quick, significant height increases are a 'long' shot' anymore. What's shocking to me is the large differences in height amongst persons in nations in S. America--nations that in some instances border one another. Duie to civil wars, unstable food supplies and stress, the commonly term used to refer to their actually getting shorter, is 'stunted growth'.

 
Overall in Asia, the average height of people has grown remarkably, usually in tandem with higher standards of living. Many agree that that the introduction of some westernized foods has encouraged this. We were traveling and at our hotel was a large group of Chinese teenagers, some of them as young as 12 or 13 y/o and many were taller than me already and quite a few were chubby. Many were wearing USA fashions, including shirts with images of not so popular anymore artists, such as 'Run DMC'--had  expensive personal electronics and I saw a lot of 'hip hop' clothing and overheard the same genre of music blasting from their expensive Dr. Dre 'Beats' head sets.


 
In the Philippines, they're getting taller, but not as quick as in other nations. What's weird is that when my wife is back there, she eats a whole lot more there but yet typically loses weight. Chicken, pork or beef, when you cook it in a pot, there's very little water that comes out of the meat, yet it is very tender and tasty. Unlike the USA, where more antibiotics and hormones go into livestock than into people, that's rare there. Since we began cramming hormones into cows (and other livestock, eggs) in the USA, the hormones and other additives have pushed puberty back years--third grade girls are seen needing bras, 4th grades boys beginning to grow mustaches.

 
In the Philippines, I'v heard music that surprised me, but it was more diversified than many other nations, including  techno, really hard core hip hop, mega heavy metal and so on. I noticed some rather impoverished kids who could identify classic symphonic music hundreds of years old--that suprised me. Not a scientific sample, but denitely noticable. Japan's young generation also has segments that embrace just about any type of music imaginable. Western music and film stars are sometimes at least as popular there as they are back home in the USA.

 
"There is also an extreme difference between older North Koreans and young North Koreans who grew up during the famines of the 1990s–2000s. North Korean and South Korean adults older than 40, who were raised when the North and South's economies were about equal, are generally of the same average height"

 
""Genetics is a major factor in determining the height of individuals, though it is far less influential in regard to populations. Average height is relevant to the measurement of the health and wellness (standard of living and quality of life) of populations. Attributed as a significant reason for the trend of increasing height in parts of Europe are the egalitarian populations where proper medical care and adequate nutrition are relatively equally distributed.Changes in diet (nutrition) and a general rise in quality of health care and standard of living are the cited factors in the Asian populations. Average height in the United States has remained essentially stagnant since the 1950s ""

 
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2013, 11:13:37 PM »
The information isn't current, as N. Korea's very secretive and what info that is out is usually about 6 or 7 years old, but it is said that on average a S. Korean guy today is a good for or five inches taller than a male in his neighboring N. Korea---which is geographically (but far from politically) only separated by the 38th parellel. It is about 160 miles long and 4 miles wide.  N. Korea for the last few generations, has had difficulty with supplying their own people with home grown, nuritious food, tlthough their military is said to  eat quite well.


 
I guess in the USA that we've been on the same diet of apple pie, hot dogs and twinkies for so long that quick, significant height increases are a 'long' shot' anymore. What's shocking to me is the large differences in height amongst persons in nations in S. America--nations that in some instances border one another. Duie to civil wars, unstable food supplies and stress, the commonly term used to refer to their actually getting shorter, is 'stunted growth'.

 
Overall in Asia, the average height of people has grown remarkably, usually in tandem with higher standards of living. Many agree that that the introduction of some westernized foods has encouraged this. We were traveling and at our hotel was a large group of Chinese teenagers, some of them as young as 12 or 13 y/o and many were taller than me already and quite a few were chubby. Many were wearing USA fashions, including shirts with images of not so popular anymore artists, such as 'Run DMC'--had  expensive personal electronics and I saw a lot of 'hip hop' clothing and overheard the same genre of music blasting from their expensive Dr. Dre 'Beats' head sets.


 
In the Philippines, they're getting taller, but not as quick as in other nations. What's weird is that when my wife is back there, she eats a whole lot more there but yet typically loses weight. Chicken, pork or beef, when you cook it in a pot, there's very little water that comes out of the meat, yet it is very tender and tasty. Unlike the USA, where more antibiotics and hormones go into livestock than into people, that's rare there. Since we began cramming hormones into cows (and other livestock, eggs) in the USA, the hormones and other additives have pushed puberty back years--third grade girls are seen needing bras, 4th grades boys beginning to grow mustaches.

 
In the Philippines, I'v heard music that surprised me, but it was more diversified than many other nations, including  techno, really hard core hip hop, mega heavy metal and so on. I noticed some rather impoverished kids who could identify classic symphonic music hundreds of years old--that suprised me. Not a scientific sample, but denitely noticable. Japan's young generation also has segments that embrace just about any type of music imaginable. Western music and film stars are sometimes at least as popular there as they are back home in the USA.

 
"There is also an extreme difference between older North Koreans and young North Koreans who grew up during the famines of the 1990s–2000s. North Korean and South Korean adults older than 40, who were raised when the North and South's economies were about equal, are generally of the same average height"

 
""Genetics is a major factor in determining the height of individuals, though it is far less influential in regard to populations. Average height is relevant to the measurement of the health and wellness (standard of living and quality of life) of populations. Attributed as a significant reason for the trend of increasing height in parts of Europe are the egalitarian populations where proper medical care and adequate nutrition are relatively equally distributed.Changes in diet (nutrition) and a general rise in quality of health care and standard of living are the cited factors in the Asian populations. Average height in the United States has remained essentially stagnant since the 1950s ""


Yeah agreed. It's unfortunate in my case. My father is 5'10 and my 2 brothers are over 6 feet. I was a sickly child (I'm fine now though with no health issues) so that's probably what stunted my growth (though I do feel fortunate that my height ended up at least somewhat within the normal range of my country).


Thanks for the info though! It really is amazing how each country developed differently and the various factors that played into it. Very interesting read!
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2013, 11:44:14 AM »

In the Philippines, I'v heard music that surprised me, but it was more diversified than many other nations, including  techno, really hard core hip hop, mega heavy metal and so on. I noticed some rather impoverished kids who could identify classic symphonic music hundreds of years old--that suprised me. Not a scientific sample, but denitely noticable. Japan's young generation also has segments that embrace just about any type of music imaginable. Western music and film stars are sometimes at least as popular there as they are back home in the USA.

I would hear the uncut versions of hip hop coming from auto stereo systems and then when the Manila radio station identification went out my jaw just dropped.  :o  I know they understand English, but sometimes I question if the concept of George Carlin's seven words made it over there.

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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2013, 09:51:38 PM »
I've been in rural areas (it's probably much the same in metro areas) where really, really popular karoake mainstays are sung and the Filipinos don't have a clue as to what some of the word's mean--especially slang. Bon Jovi's "Living on Prayer" (which in some ways epitomizes Filipino's mixture of stoicism and hope) is an example. In the line " Tommys got his six string in hock"--I don't think many have a clue what 'hock' is any more than they know what a 'diner' is in "Gina works the diner all day".
 
BTW--anybody know why it's such a taboo to sing "Sinatra's "My Way" in Filipino karoake?
 
Then again, several billion people worldwide don't know what the Rolling Stones singer Mick Jagger's singing half the time...
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BTW--anybody know why it's such a taboo to sing "Sinatra's "My Way" in Filipino karoake?
Karaoke rage!!!!!!! 
Many people love Frank Sinatra and they would not take “drunken” off-key renditions of his music. My Way” is such a beloved song, a poorly sung rendition can cause violent tension.
 
Jeers, laughter, fist fights and even murder have occurred for singing off-key.
 
Here is a report of a person killed by a security guard. He was singing the song off key & the guard told him to stop but he didn’t - so the guard shot him.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/02/world/main2877951.shtml
 
http://trueslant.com/scottyoung/2010/02/10/the-sinatra-my-way-filipino-karaoke-murders/
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/world/asia/07karaoke.html?_r=0
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/philippines/7199022/My-Way-deaths-lead-karaoke-bars-in-Philippines-to-ban-song.html
 
The killing is not limited to the Philippines – it have occurred in other places in Asia.



So all you folks who want to express/show your musical talent - take notice.

 
 
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2013, 11:01:18 AM »

 
Then again, several billion people worldwide don't know what the Rolling Stones singer Mick Jagger's singing half the time...
To the radio and banned words issue Ed Sullivan famously knew what Jagger was singing back in the day. Which reminds me of Prince's song Erotic City just when I was sure he was saying "Funk" and and not For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge a local radio station started bleeping the song while their competitors did not. Then on an episode of TV One's Unsung Sheila E gave the story that she was saying Funk while Prince sang the expletive on his verses. But still today on the weekend dance mix radio shows it goes out uncut and they are l;eft alone by the FCC almost 30 years later.

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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2013, 11:02:40 PM »
To the radio and banned words issue Ed Sullivan famously knew what Jagger was singing back in the day. Which reminds me of Prince's song Erotic City just when I was sure he was saying "Funk" and and not For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge a local radio station started bleeping the song while their competitors did not. Then on an episode of TV One's Unsung Sheila E gave the story that she was saying Funk while Prince sang the expletive on his verses. But still today on the weekend dance mix radio shows it goes out uncut and they are left alone by the FCC almost 30 years later.

Yea, Ed Sullivan was pretty sharp about prescreening the lyrics and insisting the performers change things that were too racy or too suggestive in his opinion. For instance, insisting that they film Elvis Presley from the waist UP, as his gyrations were a bit too sexual in Ed's opinion. What would he have done with an early Prince? LOL

 
In this clip, he got Mick Jagger and the Stones to 'conform'--I think business wise, the former London School of Economic's student Mick knew the Sullivan show was just too valuable--too much media exposure to risk getting banned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp8iF-orWB0

 
True or not (sounds to me like it was a convenient excuse) Mick said he deliberately slurred and made his lyrics as sung, unintelligble so that his fans could imagine them anyway they want. In fact he still does sing unintelligbly at times! Last time I saw them live, he forgot some of the words to 'Angie'. Watch the Beatle's clips from the Sullivan show--John Lennon forgot quite a bit of song's lyrics playing live, but there was so much screaming, hardly anyone noticed. One reason why they quit doing live shows was they claimed they couldn't hear themselves anymore--they commented they felt like they could utter gibberish and no one would've noticed.

 
Not sure if Ed got Jim Morrison of  'The Doors', who performed"'Come on Baby Light my Fire", to change the word "higher" in "You know we couldn't get much HIGHER" to something else, but I don't think Morrison did, because as I recall they were orginally promised several more shows while Morrison was still alive and they only appeared that one time.

 
It's too bad that it seems that every generation seems to despise much of what the new, 'younger' generation likes. I try in particular to give a fairly long, objective listen to the stuff people love to HATE, from indie bands like Grizzly Bear, The Decemberists, to the late Tupac Shakur, much later (earlier?) Robert Johnson, to Eminem, Iggy, Jack Johnson, Merle and Johnny on and on--all on my playlists.

 
I love how the American Association for Retired people (AARP) used the one line (actually played it verbatim) "Talking Bout My Generation"  from the Who's "My Generation" in a whole advertising campaign. I guess they missed the essential lines (or sensibly chose to leave out)  in the song: "Hope I die before I get old" and "Why don't you all f-fade away". The govt. investigated that one too, saying the stammering, stuttering way Roger Daltry sang must have been due to amphetemine use and was a dangerous influence on our youth....

 
Haha--today, stuck alone in my car in heavy traffic with the stereo off, I tried singing probably the hardest song for me to sing--the Rightous Brother's "You Lost that Loving Feeling"--If you start off on too low an octave (and probably even still) you will NOT sing that song w/o mangling it--that song's a bitch to nail. That and Neil Young's "Four Strong Winds" (which some obscure Canadian Country Western guy wrote and a Canadian duo made a hit there early 60's), were blowin through my head today. Oh yea--and I was try to rearrange Rod Stewart's great hit "'Reason to Believe" to make it more contemporary--(I couldn't do it justifiably) a song which along with "Maggie May" are two of the greatest songs for any guy who's ever been taken for a ride by an older woman once or twice...
 
George Jones, who passed away last week, refused for a long time to do perhaps the ultimate country weeper: "He Stopped Loving Her Today" insisting it was too morbidly sad that no one would want to listen. He was almost always drunk and/or high back then, but could sing great while that way. But he couldn't talk well in that condition and that song has a break where he has to talk. It took him a YEAR of trying to get that small part 'right'  in the studio before they got a releasable cut.. George Jones' (the ole Possum) career was ressurected with that tune and his appearance fees  (when he actually showed up) went from $2500 to $25,000.


 
I hear (Wikipedia, etc) that 'Louie Louie' actually was subject to govt. investigation/s, including 4 months by the FBI, as the words were so so unintelligble that Congress and other agencies were afraid they held some secret, threatening message. There's a lot of interesting (to me anyway) facts on that song.

 
 
>""In February 1964, an outraged parent wrote to Robert Kennedy, then the Attorney General of the United States, alleging that the lyrics of "Louie Louie" were obscene. The Federal Bureau of Investigationinvestigated the complaint. In June 1965, the FBI laboratory obtained a copy of the Kingsmen recording and, after four months of investigation, concluded that the recording could not be interpreted, that it was "unintelligible at any speed,"[38]and therefore the Bureau could not find that the recording was obscene.[2]In September 1965, an FBI agent interviewed one member of the Kingsmen, who denied that there was any obscenity in the song.""<

 
I try and imagine in my head, FBI agents listening to that tune for four MONTHS--wonder if they danced?


 
I was pretty much a little kid back then, but I actually remember most of that stuff!
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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2013, 09:51:51 PM »
In the Philippines, even if a guy's 4'8 tall, he can still find plenty of lovely women who he's taller than! If the guy is an American, he's suddenly even more attractive!
 
By most accounts, the average height of an adult Filipina is under five feet. On the dating sites, there are hundreds, (probably thousands) who are 4'7 and 4'8 tall and most put their weight at 88 pounds, because most sites don't allow a lower weight to be indicated. Filipina Cupid/Heart only shows a range of 88 pounds up to 485 pounds! Height starts at 4'7 and goes up to  7'2!
 
Some of the shorter women are actually quite curvacious, hottie looking little bombshells! My wife has some friends from college, who even though 'thirty somethings' are still in the same great shape--real lookers, with professional degrees, working as engineers.
 
Complexions range from golden brown to milky white. My wife was 88 pounds and a 5'0 tall morena when she got here, all happy, but she had lost a few pounds going through all the USCIS stuff, the stress from leaving her country, career and all that. She's filled out a bit, she's all the way up to 92 pounds now, but unlike a lot of the lighter weight gals, she's got truely dangerous curves in all the right places!   :D  If she gets close to 94 lbs, she asks me every day to take her to a nearby park for a brisk 3 mile walk (or two) around a local lake, where we walk off some calories. Pure torture, lol....
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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2013, 11:21:51 PM »
Here's an example that you can be 30 y/o, just 4'8 tall, 88 pounds, educated, employed and not a super skinny, scrawny, haggard gal, someone who probably has smarts and self esteem, as well as humility.
 
http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showprofile/ID/4115742?searchposition=181&searchtotal=1000
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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2013, 04:50:26 PM »
I am six foot one and 200 pounds I feel like a giant when I am there. Manilla the ladies and men are taller there. Cebu and Davao there a little shorter. My lady is five foot four and she considers her self tall. And will even mention it - LOL. I would think you would be in the perfect height for like 98% of all the ladies. But then I think a ugly dude could find a lady there if there sincere. Most of them will tell you they just want to be loved. Go over have a good time play some power forward.

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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2013, 05:21:24 PM »
Note on height of Filipina women:
 
For as long as I can remember, it has been standard practice for Filipinas to overstate their true height by two inches. Therefore, 5'2" is really closer to 5' even.
 
Just for fun, ask your lady how tall she is and then measure her...
 
 
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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2013, 06:56:12 PM »
Filipinas do tend to exagerate their height. I'd venture a guesstimate that there are millions of Filipinas an inch or two short of 5 feet tall, who will state or even list their height as 'five feet tall'. That said, I think there's a general international tendacy for guys and gals to 'round up' to 5 or to 6 feet if they're within an inch of those heights.
 
I've met quite a few Filipinas who not only dearly wish they were a 'true' five feet tall, but that their skin was lighter and their bra size  larger as well. Some wish they could have surgery to give them bigger butts as well.
 
Again, it's an international, male and female thing to under state your true age , but if you're in the market for a pretty young Filipina on-line, one should be careful of pretty young Filipinas who state they're 18 or older, but who are really 16 or 17. All too often, those girls are being pushed by someone close to them to 'market' themselves as being 18 or older.
 
In the Philippines, skin lightening products are a huge business. Then a Filipina comes here and the women all rave over their skin and their skin tone color--their permanent tan.
 
In the USA, some say "You can never be too thin, too tan--or too rich". Well, a whole lot of Filipinas have the first two down!
 
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Re: How Important is Height in Asian Countries?
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2013, 12:27:05 AM »
Awesome responses guys! Very informational.


I've started talking to Filipina women and I'm definitely following all of this advice.


Thanks again! :)

 

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