Thailand vs. Philippines

[SkyNorth]

I met a lady living in Thailand via the net and I never really gave much thought to the area as a good place to look.  However, she looks great and seems really nice.  She is not as courious as filipinas have been which means the conversations with her have a lot of substance vs. a lot of questions.  (I am not dis'in filipinas) And they seem very very good at English.
 
Plus 3 outta 5 filipinas, I have talked to are/have been bigtime Scammers.  But I have never sent a penny.  I wouldn't know how to start.  I am just getting gun shy of PI and Colombia (articles about so many cheating wives, etc.)
 
Any HELP is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
My question is - What are the pitfalls of Thai ladies and Thailand?
 
 

[Gato4Astrid]

I met a lady living in Thailand via the net and I never really gave much thought to the area as a good place to look.  However, she looks great and seems really nice.  She is not as courious as filipinas have been which means the conversations with her have a lot of substance vs. a lot of questions.  (I am not dis'in filipinas) And they seem very very good at English.
 
Plus 3 outta 5 filipinas, I have talked to are/have been bigtime Scammers.  But I have never sent a penny.  I wouldn't know how to start.  I am just getting gun shy of PI and Colombia (articles about so many cheating wives, etc.)
 
Any HELP is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
My question is - What are the pitfalls of Thai ladies and Thailand?

I'm afraid that I do not have an experience with any Thai ladies except that 99.99% of the 'ladies' are ladyboys     Good luck in finding 0.01% !!!

[SkyNorth]

There is a lot of truth to that statement.  One of the best looking girls to contact me was a "dude".   LOL

[Ray]

 
What does "via the net" mean. How specifically did you contact her?
 
Yes, there are a lot of scammers on the net these days from the Philipines, but watch out for on-line Thai scammers also.
 
With the Thai ladies, having a very good understanding of the English language can be a red flag (well, a pink flag anyway)...
 
 
Ray
 
 

[Calipro]

There is a lot of truth to that statement.  One of the best looking girls to contact me was a "dude".   LOL

Sent you a PM....don't listen to the trolls here....don't know how opposed you are to learning a foreign language but personally I'd be willing to learn 7 Chinese dialects before I settled for the Philipines.  Thailand has better quality in the looks department that is for sure.

[Ray]

Sent you a PM....don't listen to the trolls here....don't know how opposed you are to learning a foreign language but personally I'd be willing to learn 7 Chinese dialects before I settled for the Philipines.  Thailand has better quality in the looks department that is for sure.

 
Yes Sky, by all means follow Calipro's method...
 
 

 Calipro looking for a bride
 
 
Don't worry Calipro, you won't find any Filipinas in there...
 

 

[SkyNorth]

Thank you gentlemen for your input.

[Bob_S]

My question is - What are the pitfalls of Thai ladies and Thailand?

1.  A little farther, so longer plane ride.
2.  Spicier cuisine.  Actually, I prefer Thai cuisine, but if you were raised on bland steak and 'taters all your life, it may prove a bit much to have to switch to for the rest of your life.
3.  Within Thai culture, a lady being seen with a farrang (slang for foreigner) can cause her loss of face.  They will actively avoid you.  So connecting with sweet unspoiled girls becomes much harder.

[InnocentVixen]

I just discovered thai iced tea and love it, it is a close second to my favorite drink (spice chai) and I really liked their curry! as for the ladies I am clueless but it is always nice to hear a man is willing to open up his mind to a less traveled road, wish you the best of luck.

[SkyNorth]

Yes...Thai Iced Tea and a sugar coma go hand in hand.  They are great for 5 minutes then too rich in sweetness for me after that time limit.

[bcc_1_2]

Bob is what you are saying about losing face still true? From what I've heard... key word heard... the younger generation of women... that what you are saying about losing face isn't 100 percent accurate. Well if the farang was decent.... age apporiate. For women born in the 80s and 90s.... is that really looked down upon.

[Bob_S]

Bob is what you are saying about losing face still true?

I'll tell you a story.
I have an old female friend who immigrated from Thailand with her family when she was a kid.  She eventually married her college sweetheart, a friendly half Irish-half Cuban guy.  As she told me, when she and her husband would go back to visit Thailand, they would get odd and disapproving looks from older women.  And eventually they started having children.  Lots of children.  Then, when they would go back for visits with their kids in tow, the same women who once gave them disapproving looks would now greet them with smiles and friendly affection.  Having kids basically legitimized their relationship in the eyes of the older women who may have once taken her for just another bar girl out with a foreigner.
Now, she told me this over a decade ago.  Have things changed that much since then?  Probably.  Globalization has certainly altered how people view each other.  But a good girl, the kind you would want to marry, will still be concerned about her reputation among the older generation who haven't been as exposed as much to internationalization and haven't changed quite as much.  If that's the path you want to take, it's still a harder row to hoe than most (pardon my mixed metaphors there), but well worth it in my opinion.

[bcc_1_2]

Interesting. Definitely an age gap wedge issue.

[Chevere77]

Whats the difference between a Thai and a FIlipina? About twenty bucks...

Just kidding. I compiled this list from various forums since I do not know myself. But the more I read, my conclusuion is that Thai are in-between a chinese (pure asian) and Filipino (Best Asian-West hybrid)

In my 2 trips to Philippines in 2013, the 20 Filipinas I tried to meet from dating sites were difficult, and I struck out finding a bride. The few Filipinas I met in Angeles city were much more marriage minded and sincere, they either detested me and refused to have a drink, or they wanted to date leading to marriage. Yes, this was upside down... I am going to Thailand in Feb.

Filipinas (forum comments, not mine)
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make a good impression and conduct herself well,

middle aged guy will do much better in the Philippines, Contradicted elsewhere!
best for girlfriend or long term partners
pinays have the advantage of good communication skills,

Pinays are victims of the culture of the Philippines and many are disposed to lieing
and cheating.

about 20 bucks

Philippines people are pigs, the Thailand are clean.

I like the Philippines people more, however I trust the Thailand people more.

 Filipinos are poor yet generous; oppressed yet happy.
Marrying a Filipina is less complicated than most Thais. They are very committed to a marriage. (AA until they hit USA)

they age, very quickly
 goal of living in America
Flips have these cultural rules: like marriage is until death
Stick: many people claim that ladies from the Philippines make better wives than the Thais (AA cause they married Thai bar girls?)

Filipino men are like spoiled children

 Filipinos discriminate against each other amongst themselves even more so than with foreigners who seem welcome, good influences, and candidates for marrying into their families.

wackiness of the Filipina girl. Yes, they are a lot of fun! (Bar girls?)
 supply and demand, more Filipinas seeking husbands than men seeking Filipino brides.
 if you are seeking a hooker wife, Philippines is first choice.

whoremongers - Filipinas are sweeter, but I already knew that.....

I wish there was a country in Asia that had the best qualities and mix of values between East and West--but that country doesn't exist, unfortunately. The closest maybe the Philippines--and that country is mired in poverty and corruption.

Thai collection of statements
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They exhibit BS about appearance, saving face, public affection or weird cultural habits
spoiled and driven be excessive consumerism
Thai women are more materialistic, out-do neigbors
nothing to give but sex.
uncivil?
like to party and play
thais are more sophisticated and self assured

girls of Thailand are more snobs.

Botsakis G:
1) financial matters are higher priority than the affairs of the heart.

2) If she has to choose between a handsome/dashing (but poor) suitor or an ugly/beer-bellied (but rich) suitor, she usually chooses the rich (sacrificing her own heart and feelings in exchange of providing better financial future for her family left behind, something that a Filipina or other asian woman wouldn't dare to take.)

Thai women generally prefer ugly wealthy guy, Thai or foreign, over better looking poor guy.

I don’t care if you look like Brad Pitt and can sing like Pavarotti, Thai women cannot live on love and don’t give a rat’s ass about romance. http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/TEFLInternational/TeacherTim42.htm
it’s almost pointless to be a good-looking farang guy in Thailand

the people are cold and distance (reserved?)

Thailand is a very asian country.
any type of complaint is UNacceptable. I will continue complaints, I am from a free country

when you hook up with a Thai woman, you hook up with the whole darn village

 inferiority/superiority complex when they deals with foreigner
a "normal" thai woman will avoid any contact as possible with a foreigner

Thais doesn't move a finger for foreigner if not for money (same as Malaysians?)

To have a friend (a real friend) in Thailand is almost impossible
you go out and pay and help thai financially, as long as you don't ask him to help you.

Thai people are cold.

very sexy, smooth brown skin, figures to die for, up for anything

But if you're an older guy looking to date girls half or a third of your age then you'll likely find the same sort of girls you find in the gogo bars, hookers and gold diggers.

Look very closely at the photos. If they look like some are taken in hotel rooms... say NO MORE!

Boobs = gamer

Thai women are primarily looking for a man with money, or better still Lots of Money

****In Thailand it’s almost ungodly the amount of gorgeous women everywhere. an English hottie will pull your teeth because she knows she’s a rare commodity. Because hot Thai girls are all over the pace, they aren’t nearly as stuck up or have the attitude. Thai girls generally are hotter and they are definitely more of them.

 great sense of humor and are fun to be with
 it is a simple case of numbers

there is no greater love than the love of a Thai woman. It’s a rare & special kind of love

asian women start to go downhill fast once they hit 30

The beauty of the ladies is due to the Thai value system

Thai women run their homes, their families and the country.

tend to look for Thai guys

Thai women always look beautiful and most of all, lady-like. 

Thai ladies are attracted to people with status and authority.

Thai women more urbane, more adept at socializing, and they look the part!

 if a Thai woman comes after you, watch out. if she approaches  directly, it will be very subtle and it won’t even appear like she’s interested. What you really want is a Thai woman who’s not interested in a farang, prefers a Thai guy

Thai girls think about family first and this includes the boyfriend or husband too.   
family-centered as opposed to self-centered.  Western women are more selfish compared to Thai women. closeness of family!!!

Thailand is world famous for beautiful girls I don’t think it best to meet girl  short to medium term trip.
Read Thai Black Book – The Ultimate Thailand Survival Guide,
Farang assumed guilty as a filthy sex tourist until months to be proven innocent

hai country girls -  have no ambition but all of the native feminity.

Per capita Thailand has more beautiful women than any place Ive ever seen.

Internet dating - some want to be westernized

Hooker relationships don't work out well in the end,

Non-pros are virgins and  lovlier than the pros

best in the world -  naturally feminine, affectionate and loyal lady,not! - intellectual

Thai girls refuse responsibility for their own actions. This is especially true with an STD

Misunderstandings are endemic and so the tensions slowly accumulate

many girls seeking farang because they have had a bad experience with Thai guys.

 room is twice as good in Thailand for half the price of the Philippines.

If you like Asian women, the Thai girls just cannot compare to the girls from Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong and Japan - in terms of looks, class and education. http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader/reader1528.htm

rural girls are online to feed mouths, are seeking an income. Love is a secondary consideration.
City girls are on-line because they are hoping to find “their one true love”.

middle class Bankok Thai girls
spoiled,  princesses, emotional immaturity and instability.
been pampered for too long and expect to always get their way
incredibly selfish and do not know how to be considerate of others.
hard weeding through the middle class girls
no hobby or any tangible interests
worship brands
 don’t notice much of what goes on around them.

Thailand has an enormous pool of potential models; I imagine it is very difficult to find work here in this field

Those from other main cities like Khorat or Chiang Mai, or larger towns seem to be less spoiled and behave better.



***ALL Thai women no matter what background they come from are a continual, ongoing drama from day one.
emotional, more or less immature, clever little devil.

 "little woman syndrome". They try hard, and it's damn fun

Tim from Coast screen: married a hot filipina, dated a Thai here says:
   Thai are vindictive, jealous, good heart, smarter than FIlipina, overall great. Men are jealous.

Being a Westerner is often enough to score a really fabulous lady as your girlfriend.

many are in fact downright boring

[robert angel]

I met a lady living in Thailand via the net and I never really gave much thought to the area as a good place to look.  However, she looks great and seems really nice.  She is not as courious as filipinas have been which means the conversations with her have a lot of substance vs. a lot of questions.  (I am not dis'in filipinas) And they seem very very good at English.
 
Plus 3 outta 5 filipinas, I have talked to are/have been bigtime Scammers.  But I have never sent a penny.  I wouldn't know how to start.  I am just getting gun shy of PI and Colombia (articles about so many cheating wives, etc.)
 
Any HELP is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!

 
My question is - What are the pitfalls of Thai ladies and Thailand?

I might be mistaken, but I think you edited mention of the Philippine's 'Angeles City", which probably has as dense a sex industry as anything in Thailand. Manila's often expensive Makati City red light area is also full of hookers (and ladyboys) too--perhaps a wider range, from the lower rung to the high priced supposedly 'choice cut' girls. From the perspective of looking at Thai women and Filipina women, with both from areas like this, you're basically a short time investment for them, with 'kac-hing' written all over you--$$$ signs.



If you branch out a little further geographically as indicated, the situation changes. It's pretty hard to find even a college educated Thai woman who speaks intelligible English. The so called 'good' and 'decent' Thai girls still face a significant stigma if seen with a foreigner--a 'farang'. It's also an issue in the Philippines, but not quite as bad. Westerners are more accepted in the Philippines, although a young single girl acting cavalier with an older westerner, can still raise eyebrows. In my experience, the Thai women I corresponded with were a bit more edgy, cagey and calculating and the Filipinas more simple, sentimental and romance minded--with longer term perspectives on relationships.



The media, 400 years of Spanish occupation, the Catholic church and western influence makes most Filipinas quite a bit different, once you get away from the bar girls/hookers. A lot of them love the sappiest, soft pop music and devour the cheap pulpy 'romance novels' (pocketbooks) like potato chips. Some have said that the Philippines is full of Latino influenced people, including women, much more than any other Asian nation. So many of the rich and powerful families in the Philippines have equine noses and skin that is quite white--very much like the ruling class in Spain.


There are many, many women on sites like Filipinacupid, who you could place on Colombiancupid and vice versa, and you'd be hard pressed to know which was which and I can typically tell a Filipina from a Vietnamese woman, that one from a Thai, that one from an Indonesian and so on--not always, but fairly often. There is probably as diverse a mix of looks amongst the Filipinos as anywhere, from the African looking (a wide variety in their own right) indigenous people, to milky white skinned Spaniards and Chinese--on to morena Malays, Indian, Korean, Japanese and Caucasian influences, all blended in together.


It varies according to your habits--if you smoke, drink and eat a lot of unhealthy food you'll age worse, but I have seen a whole lot of Filipinas who were in their 40's and even some in their 50's--who were, for their age, very young looking--still 'hot'. My wife's habits are very good, she takes good care of both of us and I almost 'wish' she'd look a little older and catch up some more with me. I am serious when I say that if she walked into any middle or junior high school in the USA, they'd assume she was a student (albeit one with a mighty nice figure, curves and all) and ask her for her hall pass. It has literally happened and she's in her 30's! Her parents look younger too--it's hereditary to an extent.



One thing, if you want to look at physical characteristics closer, is if you compare a Thai lady to a Filipina in a bikini, a lot more of the Filipinas will have a bit of a band of 'jelly belly' about their tummy, even if they eat a healthy diet, exercise and have had no kids. My wife works like hell to not have it, but as said, she works it off--most other Asian women don't have to worry about that and I have no idea why--it's not just eating a lot of rice and greasy meats.


I love the Filipina deserts, which aren't healthy, but they look like vitamins compared to many of the Filipino meat dishes, which are often served fat and grease laden. You can eat decent, but you have to look around and it will cost you. To me, if you want to look at a nation's cuisine, Thailand's is much better, but no where as healthy as say, Japan. My Filipino brother in law works for Hitachi in Japan and once he got used to sea weed and experienced a wider variety, he raves about Japan's food and sees how they live longer than almost all other nations.


We've adapted sort of a 'hybrid' diets of all the above mentioned, along with USA foods, but like many Filipinos, my wife could eat 10 pounds of boiled Seaweed, three entire whole broiled fish, a ribeye steak and a slice of pizza and still not feel like she'd really had a full meal unless she had a big ole bowl of rice. . I really have no idea where she puts it, but she can out eat me big time. And still not gain weight, working full time behind an office desk. If that's not bad enough, she can also out shoot me, going from Glock, to Kel-Tec to Kimber etc, from a 380, to a full sized 45, to a 9mm, on to a 40, then switching out to our revolvers! She asks ME to take her to the range. That's at 5 feet tall, 94 pounds max, with perfect safety, poise and smooth, calculated movement. Darn woman never used a rod and reel before we wed either and can also about out fish me too! And clean em and cook em too. Only a Filipina....



The Philippines seems to have more 'in your face' poverty, street beggars and the pollution is worse overall too--in a lot of metro areas, the fumes alone from the leaded gas, along with those from sewers & garbage, can knock a buzzard off of a sh!t wagon. There are parts of Thailand that are poor and filthy too, but the Philippines really needs a drastic clean up. Amazingly, in most cities, you'll see gorgeous Filipinas in white and other light colored uniforms, who are as clean as clean can be, from morning into evening. I have never been intimate with women from any nation that had as great hygiene as Filipinas (upper class Jewish women 2nd) and I made it a practice to 'socialize' with women from as many nations and cultural backgrounds, when I was a single guy--and I was past thirty, well traveled and attended several universities with over 40,000 students each, before I married.



Oh well--a lot of this has been said before, but it makes for a great thread to revisit and build upon. In summary, I find most Filipinas easier to read --(including the scammers)--not just because of their English, but because they tend to show their emotions a bit more easily.  They're easier to romance and I think that once you find a decent one that physical beauty being about equal to a Thai woman's--your chances of staying married longer rest with the Filipinas. Too me, too many Thai's are like Swiss bankers, friendly, but motivated by your money more than anything when it comes down to the nitty gritty. One my best buddies spends at least a couple months every year traveling all around Thailand for over a decade now, (with occasional forays into neighboring nations) loves it, but makes no pretense about any ambition to settle down and marry a woman from Thailand in particular.



While Filipinas win more beauty contests, especially 'most photogenic' than any other nation, I'd have to give the nod by a nose, to the Thai babes for just oozing pure, carnal sexiness. They're more like beautiful, pure thoroughbred horses, but with temperaments to match, whereas in comparison, with invasions from powers east and west to name but two directions, Filipinos are sort of like the 'mutts of Asia' and my book, the best animals in terms of loyalty and temperament, have been mutts!