Rookie young pup here looking for some advice on brazilian women

[Jeff S]

Hey Dre - I get the Latina thing. I had it too years ago. What changed for me was the differences in culture. Actually, had I spent more time in Southern South America, as opposed to the North, Central and Caribbean parts of Latin America or if I'd have been single in the 00s and 10s instead of the 70s and 80s, I might have done things differently. But no regrets at all now. Pre-Internet most people in the world were only vaguely aware that there was a world outside their home towns, and if so, it was sanitized by TV and movie producers. And even TV was way different then. When people thought about Paris, they thought of Gene Kelly dancing under a bridge, not Tony Bourdain enjoying street food.

[InnocentVixen]

Hola caballero

A year ago I learned that I had options other than greedy money hungry, career starving, overy assertive AW. I had no idea bout this international love thing. It was really somethin else when I found out that one day I could have me a beautiful, loving, sincere, brasiliera to shower allll my love upon

A lot of men seem to think this is asking too much, I often say these men don't value themselves enough, it is only natural to want to have a good healthy relationship with the person you are planning to spend the rest of your life with, you seem to have a very nice attitude.

KEYBOARD ROMEOS....
sittin at the laptop everyday alll day and alll night demonstrating your interest in bout 50 women, wasting all that bankroll on a membership every month, when he coulda been on the next flight down to her city, and being that romeo IN PERSON with her... Which is priceless btw   I believe its time to 86 those keyboards and get south

You forgot to include the money spent sending money/gifts to their "novias" and the ones that continue to do this even if they already have a woman by their side so they are not really planning on visiting ever or just on "business trips", but yes you have a pretty clear idea of it, it's though for us girls too!



Something that BG didn't mention is that you will be surprised at the level of maturity some women have outside the US, the marriage minded ones, even if they have a career will still make great wives too knowing how to balance family and work so you can have the best of the 2 worlds or they might be willing to give up on their career upon marriage, my advice would be to not limit yourself to certain age range or women without a career, I am sure you will find someone soon

[andre1986]

@ Austin, hey bro, forgive me for the long wait. I work 7days a week and trying to respond to replies as i go. So whats goody man? Im doing great, just here on PL taking in all this great adivce . Its so good to see some more brothas on this board. I dont know about you Austin but i worship the ground that latinas walk on LOL. I seen that your pretty new here just like me, but you got south already and experienced the culture. I would definitely let you know how things progress once im in BH. my friend is a brasiliera and has friends who are alllllllll 10's and looking for sincere love. Shes gonna introduce them to me when im down there. You should come back down bro

[fathertime]

Well Andre you seem to have a really good attitude.  You should have no problem finding lots of interested babes regardless of where you go.  Do you think you are ready to settle down with one woman or do you want a few years of experience first?  I imagine it is a tough choice if you are man with a lot of options. 
Good luck!
Fathertime! 

[andre1986]

@IV,

Why thankyou corazon
Yea it is not asking too much. This is a guys life and future we are talking about here. Those guys need to learn to know what they want before approaching this thing. You are very right that those men dont value themselves enough. Yes it is very natural and normal for guys and girls to want unconditional love. Its a dream for most of us, and im going down there to find those traits that i mentioned in a girl. And damnit, i wont settle for anything less than that. The fellas who is saying this nonsense about asking too much for wanting the qualities i mentioned in a girl, are usually the ones who go down south with their penis out hoping to find anything that has legs and a booty, because they dont want to put in time and effort in finding a true blue latina queen. look, you dont know what god has in store for you. He may have a guy go through 100 latinas before he meets that 1 and he may have a guy meet that 1 girl on his first trip! So um i think its all about knowing what you want, putting in the work effort and time, believing in god and most of all, sticking with your big game plan so you can say TOUCHDOWN in thee end

[andre1986]

IV, i thanks you for your advice:)
Im not a picky kinda guy. I just pray that i can get a loyal one. She wont have nethin to worry bout. While i am looking in the 25 up to 31 range, i will not limit myself. Im very open to the chicas that are younger than i am, if they show and demonstrate a level of maturity, and wont act too dependent on a brotha. Some of these girls that are 18-19 are more mature than a AW whos 40. i strongly believe that AW will never evvvvee mount up or deal with the many hardships and poverty that these girls go through everyday of their lives. But yet they wanna write books and magazines on how to be a women and be independent. Pssssh cut it out already man ! LOL
Here in seattle, im seeing alot of international couples out and about. Maaaan do i love it!!!!!! I just smile and be on about my day. Its so nice and gives me hope and inspiration. The world is changin because of this beautiful thing. Thanks IV:) i hope i find someone too really soon. Ill give her the galaxy ! I wish you the same mamas

[andre1986]

@Jeff,

Your so right about this.. Theres always those cultural difference with these kind of relationships. Im a new student to the game and i just wanna learn her culture and be open minded and EXPECT, (not want) her to do the same. Im not looking to change a girl but i am nore than willing to put the time and effort in with her to whip cultural differences ass

[andre1986]

@ IV,


Yea sending money issue! Um thats justa lack of common sense mamii. Seems like this problem will never end with blind gringos. I agree that its tough for girls. A huge chunk of great honest sincere women are online justa pouring their little hearts out to these guys and making these innocent girls believe that theres hope in the future for a beautiful relationship. I find it really lame and disgusting of gringos. 98% of these fellas aint goin nowhere on a plane. I also agree whole heartedly that most women outside the usa are very very mature and will adjust her career/life for the man she loves, in a heartbeat !
Of course with thee exception of a handful of bad apples LOL

[andre1986]

@ FT,

Heyy man hows it goin? Its nice to meet you ! thankyou for the compliment. Im trying to learn from you fellas. You guys are one of my handful of inspirations. Ive read alot of your posts and think your a kool dude. Bro thats a really good question ! Um well im just gonna go down there with an open mind and just observe first. Im ready to chat with and meet many brasilieras and find out which ones i have the most chemistry with. FT i think im ready to settle down with one mamii, bro. I refuse to throw all my eggs in one basket, but if theres any indication that a brasiliera takes my interest by storm, then i will focus on spending my time getting to know her while also being honest and frank about seeing other people with her. Im not down there to be a playboy. Thats not my style. Im marriage minded and really trying to seek a queen of my castle. FT your marriage is beautiful... I love your story.. Its a perfect example of what i mentioned about  we not knowing what god has in store for  us in the pursuit of love. you can find her  on the first trip or you can find her after dating so many women. Im hungry for happiness !

[Researcher]

  Hey Andre, you seem to be a level headed guy but international dating is a different ball game. I see you have written "close your eyes and let love be your guide" under your avatar. Let me amend that by saying when it comes to dating outside your own country: Keep one eye open, let love be your guide but let common sense make the final decision. Good luck in your search!

     Researcher

[V_Man]

Welcome Andre.
I have been to Colombia and I am about to go to 4 other countries in SA but I have never been to Brazil. I would love to go to Brazil one day for many reasons including the beautiful women.

Just one observation. You don't need to justify why you want to look in Brazil and not Colombia. If you wanted to look in Paraguay, you should not feel obliged to explain why.

On here you should only get encouragement to travel and search in different countries for love. Until I meet a Colombiana I was planning to visit every country in South America EXCEPT Colombia. The fact you have a friend in BH is fantastic. Go with it. So yeah definately learn as much Portugese as you can, go to Brazil and tell us all about it.

Good luck,

Vman.

[afj56]

Andre, I'm going back to Brazil.  When I was in Brazil the beautiful ladies caused me to stop in my tracks.  The World Cup and the Olympics will be held in Brazil in 2014 and 2016.  Just learn as much Portuguese as you can.  I think that you're going to have the time of your life.  You have a friend to show you around.

[andre1986]

@ RESEARCHER,

Bro how are you? Haha thats funny man, i promise to keep that 1 eye open at all times on my quest for love and use my "big head". Once again some good knowledge from the vets here

[andre1986]

@ V_man,


Whats up man? Good to meet you ! Ey you know what, its funny that you mentioned this, because the last few days, i feel i have been a tad bit too harsh on colombianas. If im correct, you said you planned on visiting every latin american country other than colombia, but foynd yourself a colombiana. Dude thats awesome ! And for that, i really learned a lesson today. Benjio stated a few posts back, that a gringo shouldnt rule out colombia as a wife hunt choice, based on a few deficiencies, and hes right. Brazil is my wife/gf hunting destination but i will not rule out colombia as ive done. Jamie has said that a colombiana can love you very much, yet not understand right away or function well when it comes to assisting you to the standards you expect, but they are not difficult to figure out... And so with a gringos teachings and patience, he can live with these girls limitations, which will become smaller and smaller over time. So lesson learned for me !

[andre1986]

LOL@ Austin,


Bro i told my friend that im getting surgery on my neck before the trip so that i can turn my head all the way around like an owl just so i can view the eye candy down there at many different angles LOL. My level of portuguese is otrocious, but im learning tho. My friend is taking time out of her busy day each day to help me, but she says that the girls i pursue needs to learn my language. I was like WOW, this is coming from a brasiliera herself. She says she will be there with me to translate and breakdown what the girls feel, how they feel and da da da da. Im so thankful man. I really am

[V_Man]

LOL@ Austin,


Bro i told my friend that im getting surgery on my neck before the trip so that i can turn my head all the way around like an owl just so i can view the eye candy down there at many different angles LOL. My level of portuguese is otrocious, but im learning tho. My friend is taking time out of her busy day each day to help me, but she says that the girls i pursue needs to learn my language. I was like WOW, this is coming from a brasiliera herself. She says she will be there with me to translate and breakdown what the girls feel, how they feel and da da da da. Im so thankful man. I really am

Wow that is an awesome friend!! You should definately take her up on that.
My personal advice about the language is that you should go into it expecting to eventually have high-intermediate to advanced proficency in her language. If she is going to live in your country she should realise she will eventually need to be fluent in English. However that takes years (unless she is already has a very high level of English). My advice is to take responsibility for yourself - which means you need to go into it determined to communicate in her language as much as you can.

Rather than focus too much on her current abilities with English, focus on her willingness to learn it.

When I was searching for a latina last year, I was chatting with many, trying to narrow down the field.  My Spanish really isn't that great but for short bursts I can have a good little conversation. I often had girls initially assume my Spanish abilities were a lot better than they really are. One day I was chatting with a latina that I liked in Spanish. I asked her about learning English. She admitted to me that she hated English!  I pointed out to her that this was my native language! 
She back tracked to say she meant that she found it difficult to learn. However this is an example where you need to use your big head. Needless to say I didn't pursue her. My current girl finds learning English difficult but she never expresses it as a hatred of the language.

[benjio]

One day I was chatting with a latina that I liked in Spanish. I asked her about learning English. She admitted to me that she hated English!  I pointed out to her that this was my native language! 
She back tracked to say she meant that she found it difficult to learn. However this is an example where you need to use your big head. Needless to say I didn't pursue her. My current girl finds learning English difficult but she never expresses it as a hatred of the language.

I've heard that from so many girls in Colombia you wouldn't believe. What the hell does that mean anyway?!!! How can a person hate a language?!!!!
 
It also trips me out when native Spanish speakers say that learning English is difficult. PURE LAZINESS!!! I'm fluent in Spanish, and let me tell you...the absolute most difficult thing about learning the language is proper verb conjugation. While they only teach you past, present and future tenses in high school (usually the "ir a" form to express a future action), there are actually 30 different forms for every verb in Spanish. 35 if you want to learn true Spanish from Spain and include the Vosotros form. And an additional one for the past participle form used with the verb haber. There are three kinds of verbs (-ar, -er and -ir), each with different conjugations. There are also a number of what are called reflexive verbs that are used in conjunction with le, me, se and te. All these things make becoming a proficient Spanish Conversationalist quite a daunting task for any native English Speaker. It took me three hours a day for two years to get where I am now. Learning every form is not necessary, but when I meet gringos with limited verb conjugation knowledge listening to them in Spanish reminds me of speaking with a child in English. The way an action is expressed in English is considerably easier to learn and a lot less complex.
 
Learning Portuguese has been a lot easier for me with a Spanish Foundation, but still a very difficult language to grasp because of the variety of accents here in Brazil. At least Brazilians will usually correct you when you say something wrong. Colombians will let you think you're right forever and never try to help you learn. They think it's rude to correct people.

[braziliangirl]

They think it's rude to correct people.

Isn't it? I would just do if asked to...

[benjio]

Isn't it? I would just do if asked to...

How so? I say something wrong in Portuguese. You tell me the right way to say it immediately afterwards. I learn. Why would someone feel offended by that? How do children learn to speak any language correctly if they aren't corrected when they say something wrong? Is it more acceptable to be "rude" to children?
 
I remember when I was still learning Spanish and visiting Barranquilla often. The word in spanish for "a while" is "un rato." To give the impression that something is smaller in Spanish, you usually simply add -ito or -ita, depending on if it's a masculine or feminine noun or pronoun. Small dog is "perrito" (little dog). Little boy is "muchachito", or "niñito." But the word for a while is one of the exceptions. To say "a little while" in Spanish, you say "un ratico." Using -ico instead of -ito. But I was saying it wrong (ratito) for months before one of Jamie's Translators corrected me. Personally, I'd rather someone be rude to me for a moment as supposed to me sounding stupid for a few months. But that's just me. This is the only example I can think of off the top of my head because it went on for so long, but there were dozens of things I was saying wrong because no one would correct me. Usually I had to figure out the pronunciation errors myself!!!
 
BG, please correct my Portuguese whenever I say something wrong. Believe me my friend, I'll forgive you. I'll even tell you "Obrigado!" afterwards.

[braziliangirl]

How so? I say something wrong in Portuguese. You tell me the right way to say it immediately afterwards. I learn. Why would someone feel offended by that? How do children learn to speak any language correctly if they aren't corrected when they say something wrong? Is it more acceptable to be "rude" to children?
 
I remember when I was still learning Spanish and visiting Barranquilla often. The word in spanish for "a while" is "un rato." To give the impression that something is smaller in Spanish, you usually simply add -ito or -ita, depending on if it's a masculine or feminine noun or pronoun. Small dog is "perrito" (little dog). Little boy is "muchachito", or "niñito." But the word for a while is one of the exceptions. To say "a little while" in Spanish, you say "un ratico." Using -ico instead of -ito. But I was saying it wrong (ratito) for months before one of Jamie's Translators corrected me. Personally, I'd rather someone be rude to me for a moment as supposed to me sounding stupid for a few months. But that's just me. This is the only example I can think of off the top of my head because it went on for so long, but there were dozens of things I was saying wrong because no one would correct me. Usually I had to figure out the pronunciation errors myself!!!
 
BG, please correct my Portuguese whenever I say something wrong. Believe me my friend, I'll forgive you. I'll even tell you "Obrigado!" afterwards.

Putting that way, it's right. I'd better be corrected too, but it all depends on how people do it. I remember this date I went with an American in San Francisco and the guy would stop me often to correct my pronunciation, breaking the conversation flow... I thought that was rude.

[InnocentVixen]

I asked her about learning English. She admitted to me that she hated English!  I pointed out to her that this was my native language! 
She back tracked to say she meant that she found it difficult to learn. However this is an example where you need to use your big head. Needless to say I didn't pursue her. My current girl finds learning English difficult but she never expresses it as a hatred of the language.

While it is not a positive thing she chose such a strong word for her dislike of english and then went as far as saying it's just hard, I can relate to that. Believe it or not in school my least favorite class would be english, nobody would believe me since I had all straight A+ since kindergarten, I had the ability to understand fast so I would see it as a stepstone to learn other languages since it was really easy to browse the internet in spanish back in the day without someone trying to sell you something or picture of topless women all around, so I would refuse to even try to speak it.


Quite Honestly my attraction to redheads has always been there but blonde was an acquired taste... started with strawberry blond    and then I learned to see the beauty in it, pretty much like the language really, once I started speaking it I find it to be a beautiful language (specially when I found out about the old english that sounds almost like another language all together!), when my preference has always been stronger sounding like german and romanian and was very interested in different once such as japanese, which can sound strong sometimes as well, I guess I just enjoy rolling my RRR's lol


As an english teacher I will tell you guys, sometimes a person's "dislike" for the language just as looks they are  not very used to be around, is nothing more than a mix of shyness and fear.


Correcting? yes sometimes I feel I get someone offended when I do, when I am teaching someone very shy I do my best not to correct but focus on the things they do right so they get some confidence, I even tell them is ok to read it in spanish if they find a word they don't know how to pronounce so they don't get stuck and keep reading, I will explain after how does those specific types of pronunciation works so they don't feel self conscious, specially when it's in a classroom in front of a bunch of students.


I agree BG when you are having a normal conversation with someone and your accent gets a bit in the way but they can understand you, it cuts the flow, if they do it too much makes it feel like they are not interested in what you have to say.

[whitey]

Generally speaking with my Colombian friends, I will only correct them if I hear them saying the same thing wrong more than once.  My reasoning is that this is a pretty good indicator that they don't know they are making a mistake, rather than them actually knowing the right way to say something but forgetting in the moment.  For example, in Spanish I sometimes get the gender wrong on a word or conjugate a verb incorrectly, even when I actually know the correct way to say it.

With my wife, if I am going to correct her, I wait until she is finished her sentence or reply, and will try to pick one thing to correct her on.  It's pretty discouraging if someone is interrupting you all the time and correcting many mistakes.  In truth, I probably correct her less than I actually should, sometimes out of laziness or forgetfulness, or just to keep the conversation moving (which is good practice too).

When I host English conversation circles, especially if it's a one-on-one, I ask the person if they want me to correct them or if they prefer to just let the conversation flow.  Most want to be corrected. 

[fathertime]

I've heard that from so many girls in Colombia you wouldn't believe. What the hell does that mean anyway?!!! How can a person hate a language?!!!!
 
It also trips me out when native Spanish speakers say that learning English is difficult. PURE LAZINESS!!! 

I think it would be sorta cute if a woman in frustration said ‘I hate English’ or 'it is difficult', especially if she stamped her foot as she said it. 
I don’t concur that it is pure laziness if a woman makes such a statement…for example, you haven’t made me think that you are lazy and look at the statement you just made about Portuguese! 

 
 
Learning Portuguese has been a lot easier for me with a Spanish Foundation, but still a very difficult language to grasp because... 

My overall point is, I wouldn't take it TOO seriously if a woman expresses frustration and stamps her feet regarding learning the language.  If she is frustrated that indicates that she actually does care, and I would take that as a good sign.  I think a worse sign would be that she doesn't care enough to be frustrated!  Of course all determinations are done on a case by case basis.  Some woman care, but just don't yet have the skills to learn a language, but in most cases that can change over time I think.     


Fathertime! 


   

[andre1986]

Wow great stuff, guys and gals ! I never thought about these things. BG that guy in san fran sounds like a jerk ! Whats he thinking? I woulda never interrupted while hearing you speak. A girl with an accent is sexy to me lol. If i he was going to correct you, it shoulda been after you were done and with a smile at least to make you feel that it wasnt out of rudness. V-MAN, i thankyou sir ! Im apolled that this girl would flat out say she hates english. I would definitely gave her the piece sign and left. im super happy that you guys are pointing these kinds of things out to us freshman here. some girls are walking red flags but hard headed gringos dont use their heads and common sense. I have yet to leave the usa, and i have to tell you that im anxious to get south to see how i do while carrying all this advice and knowledge. Thanks guys:)

[benjio]

I think it would be sorta cute if a woman in frustration said ‘I hate English’ or 'it is difficult', especially if she stamped her foot as she said it. 
I don’t concur that it is pure laziness if a woman makes such a statement…for example, you haven’t made me think that you are lazy and look at the statement you just made about Portuguese! 

My overall point is, I wouldn't take it TOO seriously if a woman expresses frustration and stamps her feet regarding learning the language.  If she is frustrated that indicates that she actually does care, and I would take that as a good sign.  I think a worse sign would be that she doesn't care enough to be frustrated!  Of course all determinations are done on a case by case basis.  Some woman care, but just don't yet have the skills to learn a language, but in most cases that can change over time I think.     


Fathertime! 


   

FT, my misunderstanding comes from a direct relationship these girls place between the two words "hate" and "difficult," which mean two entirely different things in English AND Spanish. But perhaps I'm missing something and in Colombia the two ideas have some sort of lingual connection. I won't deny it's a possibility...I'm still learning.
 
I am CELTA Certified from Lone Star College Cy Fair. I volunteer as an English Tutor to Immigrants that just got their U.S. Citizenship in Houston at an organization called Literacy Advance. Please feel free to Google it, learn a little about what we do, and make a donation if you feel so inclined. I have also assisted in teaching ESL classes in Colombia at several institutes in various cities, so I know dozens of ESL Instructors that work on the primary and secondary education levels. I also have friends at the Universidad Del Norte that have Master's Degrees in ESL with years of university level teaching; not to mention the many polylingual people I currently work with in South America that know English, Spanish and Portuguese fluently. There's one thing I can assure you we all agree on: Spanish is much more difficult to learn for a native English Speaker, in comparsion to how difficult English is to learn for a native Spanish Speaker. I've already given what I think is a very good example for why this is true. There are many more.
 
This is why I'd call any native Spanish Speaker that uses the excuse that English is too difficult "PURELY LAZY!" It's not the level of difficulty that's preventing them from learning. It's the lack of motivation so common amongst Latin Americans. I have students in Houston that are fluent in English in 6 months with a little dedication and hard work.
 
You also completely misrepresented something I wrote when you quoted me, by leaving out the fact that I referenced accents, and used the word "grasp" instead of "learn." I am learning Portuguese; but working in different places around Brazil makes it difficult to "grasp" how to pronounce words correctly because dialects here differ greatly from region to region. Nice try as usual though.
 
I do agree with you about how cute Colombianas are when they are frustrated and stomping their feet. That also drives me crazy!...in a good way.