Wow, my 1st trip report from Colombia, the good, the bad and the ugly, let's go!

[Micky]

Col -

Very well done Grasshopper!  Taking the time and trouble to write that exacting TR will be very helpfull to those who follow.

There were many good observations and comments from the peanut gallery also,  if I may be so bold as to add a few.

One - You can learn from others,  grow,  change,  adapt as you will,  BUT,  always be yourself.  Nothing else will ever work in the end.

Two -  As was referred to -  the age range that you are in,  both you're own and those that would be the recipients of you're affection,  are not optimal here in Colombia.  The girls that young still have a good percentage that are partying with their friends,  as is normal most places.  So you did really well considering that factor.  Not that it was automatic for anyone here,  but believe me that it was easier for "us" older dogs,  as the women here in their early/mid thirties on,  are,  for the most part,  done with the BS of youth (no offense intended to you young stallions).

Three - Not real big on making excuses for Latina #1.  Family here is EVERYTHING.  When she went with you INSTEAD of taking you with her to be with her family and friends,  well that tire is missing at least four lug nuts,  period.

Four -  Comments about the Colombiana and Beauty.  For my money,  not much different the world over.  Since when has a fox broken a nail working,  be it Texas,  France,  Japan or Barranquilla?  It is just that here the competition is the opposite of the Wal-Mart heifers in the U.S. (Adriana keeps herself looking nice,  as does Diana,  therefore,  Claudia must also in order to catch her prize).

Five -  Do not waste too much overthinking  "Colombian women think this way or that,  react this way or that".  Women are women,  we don't really understand them,  they don't even understand each other.  You are dealing primarily with a very different culture and society.  It is very different and complex,  it takes time,  a lot of time,  but as much as you can learn the culture and you will have a better grasp of dealing with the women here.

Six -  Only kidding,  five was too many.  I believe that you did VERY WELL for you're first time in the shark tank.  You exhibit good reason and logic,  I have no doubts that you will accomplish what you want.  Very well done.

Love - Micky

[Researcher]

I dotn want the ones with high mileage (would you buy a car with 100,000 miles) sold to you as a new car?

        City or Highway miles?

        Man, you are placing way too much emphasis on a woman's sexual past. I guess you could try an Asian country. I hear even the women with children are virgins over there. You just have to check under the hood before you take a test drive to make sure there aren't  any "spare parts" under there! hehehehe.....

    Researcher

[Colgando]

Thanks Mickey, I appreciate your words of encouragement and correction.

I know it is possible in the age group I am looking in and at my age because it has been done before. Like you said, I do think it will take me some time to navigate those waters successfully, which is fine by me, I am going to enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts! The 27 year old I dated seemed to be past the partying stage, she worked all the time and just did not have the time or energy for all of that, I just did not have the connection that I want with her.

[Colgando]

Latina #1 has been removed from the website. She is non-responsive at this point and the agency has not seen or heard from her since the last time she confirmed she was coming over to see me.

[dennislevy]

Colgando
Wow! you were right about Jamie taking her off the web site....! Kudos to you.....

Colcorazon
Any number of guys have said it......in different ways.....you CANNOT impose your cultural imperarives and standards on another culture. You want a quote GOOD unquote  girl.....without any or much sexual experiience. Ok thats your preference.

But IF you dont understand the culture, much less speak Spanish, yoU dont have the chops to find her....NOW.

But, that may change if you put some skin into it, instead of critcizing other men.

And putting skin in...means learningto speak, write and understand Spanish decently

i can tell you that you won t be able to qualify for the kind of girl in a venue like Jamie s agency or an AFA social. there are just too many women there, for you to qualify her and pick her out of a group.

What you want is a Christian latina dating site..where you can chat with women one and one and even then you have to  be careful.

Or if you want, Il llind 3 or 4 good girls for you to meet in one Colombian city.....But in this case......I won t work for free, and I m going to be JUUUUUST a bit more more expensive then Jamie

Work on yourself, learn Spanish.....

Have a good day.

Dennis

[AndyLee]

Is Colcorazon, or according to Euphoria, is colcorazon aka vallanetaman aka v-man still here?  I keep waiting for IV or FT to slap some sense into that boy.

[V_Man]

Hey AndyLee - I am my own man so how about a little respect mate?


Researcher wrote:

Man, you are placing way too much emphasis on a woman's sexual past. I guess you could try an Asian country. I hear even the women with children are virgins over there.

Is there a place for quote of the week?
My vote is for that one.   jajaja!

[Alabamaboy!]

Hey Andy, Nice avatar!! Now I can see why you are living over there. You are living the good life! Nice!

[Researcher]

Thanks Sticky for your take on my trip report, that very well may be it, the way I handled that was not good for sure, I think back and it was awkward, not good. I do not believe in lying, you could probably tell from my trip report, so I can't do that. This character trait of mine about not lying caused me to openly tell her I had a date tomorrow and what did she think about it. Not lying gets me in trouble sometimes so I have to always be sure that I am operating optimally so that I can always tell the truth in stride.

Yes, I am a Christian, looking for a Christian woman, I am so happy I can find them in Colombia.

Things I will do differently next time, I will slow down the too serious talk significantly, temper my emotions, and when I ask a woman to be my novia again, I will immediately severe ties to all other women in her eyes, I prematurely asked her to be my novia on this trip, I wasn't prepared to be committed so quickly and fumbled as a result.

When I mean see her coming, I mean see a woman who has these self-esteem issues, I will be able to recognize it for what it is. I did not make any effort to deal with her insecurities about her beauty, I would try next time to reassure her about her beauty in a way that positively boosted her self-esteem and see how that played out, being aware of ABs story with his ex, that is the theory anyway that I am operating under.

   Colgando I'd say that is exactly what happened. If you tell a Colombiana that you are her novio she expects that you will be exclusive to her. Sounds like you realize that now.Lesson learned.

      Researcher

[Alabamaboy!]

   Colgando I'd say that is exactly what happened. If you tell a Colombiana that you are her novio she expects that you will be exclusive to her. Sounds like you realize that now.Lesson learned.

      Researcher

Yeah, "Novios" there seems almost like a "pre-engagement" level. So this is the time you when you exchange little gifts at birthdays, when you are introduced to her grandma, things like that. It definitely is a big step up from just "going out".

[Colgando]

   Colgando I'd say that is exactly what happened. If you tell a Colombiana that you are her novio she expects that you will be exclusive to her. Sounds like you realize that now.Lesson learned.

      Researcher

Crazy thing is, I realized my mistake, I back tracked, told her I cancelled all of my dates going forward, guess I could not un-ring that bell, such a rookie mistake. In the past, there has never been more dates lined up for me when I asked a woman to be my girlfriend, that agency experience is bananas. In the US, it is not acceptable to date other women when a couple are novios, that is considered cheating, so there is no cultural excuse for my mistake, man, was I off my game in that instance or what. It was a big misunderstanding that I tried to correct, to no avail. I do not think that was the whole story, I would not be surprised if there was another man in play with her, or if there was something else going on with her, I did not know her that well. To me, that is something I should have been able to explain to her that I made a mistake and I am sorry, that was the truth, I really did not want to see any other women and I really did want to be exclusive with her, I never had the chance to make this point further with her and explain, she did not give me the chance, I did not have any dates the day after we said we were novios and I did not want any other dates. The straw that broke the camel's back comes to mind. I am happy that it did not work out, I do some dumb things sometimes, this was probably one of the bigger missteps, but all that to say is I need a partner in my life that will be able to work through points of honest contention and honest misunderstanding.

[AndyLee]

Hey Andy, Nice avatar!! Now I can see why you are living over there. You are living the good life! Nice!

Thanks AB, it's a $#!#!@ job but somebody's gotta do it
I hadn't planned to go to Cali until later this spring, that is until I met Helem on Cupido

[Colgando]

Thanks AB, it's a $#!#!@ job but somebody's gotta do it
I hadn't planned to go to Cali until later this spring, that is until I met Helem on Cupido

Do your thing Andy!

[AndyLee]

I am happy that it did not work out, I do some dumb things sometimes, this was probably one of the bigger missteps, but all that to say is I need a partner in my life that will be able to work through points of honest contention and honest misunderstanding.

God help me.....I'm reduced to quoting Garth Brooks to help you through your pain....what a bummer.......
"Some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers"

[dennislevy]

Andy
Hope you ve got real good dental insurance!  If you hook up with your avatar of the day, You re gonna bust your teeth on those mamas!!!!!!

[Colgando]

God help me.....I'm reduced to quoting Garth Brooks to help you through your pain....what a bummer.......
"Some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers"

LOL, good quote!   

I don't have any more pain, what happened with her is mild compared to what I have been through in my life.