A bit young!

[Researcher]

   I'm not one for generalizations. There are always exceptions to "rules".But when it comes to young women(I'm talking around 18 to early 20's) I remember reading something on a men's room wall at a truck stop.It said "what do Mack trucks and young pu**y have in common? They are both over rated!" I laughed at the time but after having relationships with young women I kind of see some truth in that,  generally speaking that is. hehehe.


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[michaelb]

I used to have a friend in the business (now deceased) who always said "We don't drive nothin' but Cadillacs and Peterbilts." Not sure about his opinion on that other matter, but he was married to the same woman for 30+ years and they drove as a team that whole time.   

[robert angel]

Hey Dave,

Regarding >>I'm sure they wanted to see what it was like on a vacation (especially Disney),<<

I think Disneyworld (The Hong Kong version just doesn't cut it) is to Filipinas what Mecca is to Muslims. When I was in the chat game years back, just mentioning I lived a few hours away from Disney World was worth some major bonus points. Now only if they could make it snow on command there--seems every Filipina wants to see snow too.....

[jm21-2]

I agree with BCC. It is totally different meeting a girl in person. Having done this a bit, I would say you should meet a local girl within 2 weeks, and a foreign girl within 3 months. If you can't do that, don't message them. It's not worth it. You'll build up unreasonable expectations in yourself and her, she'll be talking to her family about you, you'll be under a lot of pressure to seal the deal, if you don't you'll both be extremely hurt...it's just a bad idea. It seems logical at first to spend a lot of time getting to know a lady online before booking that expensive flight, but it just doesn't work that way.

[Keith]

I spent 8 months chatting, emails, phone conversations and text messages with a girl in cebu.  Spent two weeks with her and her family.  No love connection.  Turned out she wanted to be a WU girl, lol.  But I had back up plans I met a nice girl in Zamboanga City.  We keep in touch and I am planning my next trip for May.   

[crashfirepm53]

No plenty of men have these long drawn out web relationships and then when they actually show up it goes horribly and it was nothing like they thought based on their webcam chats. At some point you've got to draw the line in the sand about real life meets.

Pictures and a profile are great for selecting some ladies you might be interested in. A webcam might help you verify some things about here. But there just is no substitute for meeting her. These long drawn out chats for months and months are not healthy IMO. You should be ready to board the plane within 3 or 4 months of contacting her. If not... you are not ready to contact women.

We both know some men are unrealistic in expectations, cant read people well or have tunnel vision,go over to meet a 18 y/o when they should know better or are just gullable. Of course your right though that meeting in person should tell almost all about her.

Your right about these year long chats and emails. I don't understand that at all. I met her in November and I want to be there in March or April. I don't know how a woman could take a man seriously for that long.

[robert angel]

You can be from the Philippines and come over to the United States anytime you want--as long as you have money! If you can show you have money or substantial land holdings in your name, they will assume you'll return. My wife's parents have legally divided their land betwwen all the children and as it's divided up so much, transparently diluting it's value, they can't use it for that purpose.

[Bob_S]

I spent 8 months chatting, emails, phone conversations and text messages with a girl in cebu.  Spent two weeks with her and her family.  No love connection.

Yup.  Spent 6 months e-mailing with translation services one gal in Volgograd (Stalingrad).  Went to visit her, spent a few days there.  No chemistry.  Zilch.  Nada.
Have a Plan B.

[JackSprat]

I think the reason you guys did not have a connection is you didn't have clear photos of her prior to the trip.  Whenever I have clear photos, I am never disapointed when I meet her in person.

[Ray]

I think the reason you guys did not have a connection is you didn't have clear photos of her prior to the trip.  Whenever I have clear photos, I am never disapointed when I meet her in person.

But photos only give you an idea what she looks like. If looks are your priority, then I think you’re in trouble.

A photo tells you absolutely nothing about her character, which is what really counts…

Ray

[jm21-2]

No girl has ever used old photos, doctored photos, photos taken at as a deceiving angle or with lighting conditions that hid her flaws...no sir...

[robert angel]

A picture might be worth a thousand baseless salivations, chatting worth thousands of ultimately wasted words, but person to person 'reality' can be one cold slap in the face.....

[Dave H]

No girl has ever used old photos, doctored photos, photos taken at as a deceiving angle or with lighting conditions that hid her flaws...no sir...

INCONCEIVABLE!  How dare they! Those deceiving impostors! How dare they! Oh, did I mention that I am a multimillionaire? Here are my latest pictures. 

Dastardly Dave

[Dave H]

What do you mean you don't recognize me in person? Those photos were taken recently at my peak during contest season! I have cut back on my training a bit because it is now off season. Of course the hair is mine and real! It cost me a small fortune...100 percent human hair!



The car...I decided not to buy it because I didn't want another silver one. Did I mention that I also have a "Vette"..."Chevette."


There are some real douchbag pieces of sh...it foreigners who are involved with or married to Filipinas. Unfortunately, they give the rest of us a bad reputation that the feminists love to call "the NORM," write about, and cite when they testify before government bodies.

[JackSprat]

I would have to say, you need some "convincing" photos.  I you have convincing photos, you just can't go wrong.  I spent some time with this gal in the photo.  I had no complaints.  

[Heruamen]

   Before i went to the Philippines to visit my girl who is 30 years old I would not have thought to much of dating someone 18, 19, or 20 years old, but I spent three months there and I got to know several women that I just happened to meet there. They were all between 18 and 19 and every one of the seemed way more mature then any American woman their age.  Most of them were business owners. That right there should tell you that this person is not the typical 19 year old.  I really think life experience would somewhat help determine how fast a person matures.
   If I had been single I really would have considered taking some of them up on their offers and dating them.  Just keep talking to her and take your time to get to know her and go see her.  If she is not all that believe me you can eaisly meet another woman while you are there.  In the malls i had several experiences where women approached me (if my lady was not with me) and asked me if I had someone.

[Dave H]

In the malls i had several experiences where women approached me (if my lady was not with me) and asked me if I had someone.

Hey Heruamen,

It took me some time to learn the good from the bad, and I still get fooled sometimes.  It's a good thing you already had your lady! Those are not the type of ladies that you would want to marry! They may look innocent...but lookout!!! The good ladies won't approach you at a mall, so can be difficult to meet on a trip to the Philippines. One of the single school teachers at my daughter's private school would make an excellent choice or a nurse that you met on a trip to the ER or doctor's office, etc. A 66 year old widow (school director) asked me to find her and her never married 67 year old friend Kanos. (She was sort of joking, but somewhat serious). Great choices for guys looking for an older lady.

Dave

[flipflop]

I started chatting with my wife in August of 2001, 911 happened and I was on a plane in November. She lived in Manila all her life, her sister was already in Canada married and she had several Europeans and other Americans on the hook. I was driving all over the midwest meeting American women so I learned first hand about the photo thing. American women have no freakin shame...at all. A 15 year old photo when she was physically and beauty wise peaking. I get there and she looks like my 2nd grade teacher who was one ugly bytch. My wifes photo on the other hand was recent but you could hardly make out what she really looked like. The lighting was bad it was taken at a distance and she was at work in a hallway with a dark dress on so all I could tell is she was Asian and not over weight. Then as we started chatting she linked to some better pictures and I coulnt buy a plane ticket fast enough.

My wife knew the deal, she had already visted Switzerland to do a visa with a Swiss guy and had boy friends from all over the world who would come see her in Manila. She knew it was a matter of time before she got out of the PI and that was her goal. Im lucky I got off my ass because she says thats why she chose me.

And I have to say that while we had a lot in common this wasnt love at first sight. It took many years for us to see past each other flaws and focus on the good. In fact I'd say that when we were married I loved her but I wasnt in love with her. I absolutley adore her now though.

[robert angel]

Sounds like a very honest appraisal....

[Heruamen]

 Hheheheheh you are probably right about that Dave.  I Was thinking about that very thing when this girl sat down at my table at the Sm mall Jollibee and started chatting out of the blue.  Even when I told her my girl was just out of eyeshot at a chinese eatery she still slipped me her number and yahoo.  I remembered reading in an archive post that the good ones wont try and pick you up.  However I did experience several girl who worked businessess that I went to a lot would be really friendly and i would just stop and talk to them for awhile sometime. Eventually after several visits sometimes they would enquire if I was single and express interest.  Mabye they were okay.

[Dave H]

Hheheheheh you are probably right about that Dave.  I Was thinking about that very thing when this girl sat down at my table at the Sm mall Jollibee and started chatting out of the blue.  Even when I told her my girl was just out of eyeshot at a chinese eatery she still slipped me her number and yahoo.  I remembered reading in an archive post that the good ones wont try and pick you up.  However I did experience several girl who worked businessess that I went to a lot would be really friendly and i would just stop and talk to them for awhile sometime. Eventually after several visits sometimes they would enquire if I was single and express interest.  Mabye they were okay.

Hey Heruamen,
 
Oooo...that sounds like one bad lady! Tempting maybee...good for fun, but bad in the long run!

It is not uncommon with ladies that work in a business that often deal with foreigners. Hotel desk clerks, hotel and restaurant employees are often quite friendly and comfortable talking with foreigners. Some are OK, while others are not. I personally would avoid ladies that will do anything to get to America or out of the Philippines!

Dave

[JackSprat]

Okay here's the deal.  As you can see by the photo in my previous post, there is such a thing as objective beauty.  I think every male understands that but, unfortunately many will not admit it.  Of course in every one of these boards the subject comes up about women seeking opportunity as opposed to true love. 

First off the young women that have a child (or more) have a tendency to seek opportunity and of course the women with average looks (with or without children) usually have the same tendency.  What to do?  Well it is simple.  If you pursue only young beautiful women without children then you will only get honest responses.  Will you face some rejection?  You bet.  However if an obviously beautiful young woman without children gets interested in you, then she is honest.  I know guys will dispute this but, I assure you they never once dated an obviously beautiful young woman without children.  I have and I understand the deal here.

Now then.  Why would a beautiful young woman (grown not a teenager) without children spend time with me?  Keep in mind this woman can have any man she wants and this includes wealthy young handsome locals.  Well if she spends time with me, then she wants to. 

Also, there is a false belief that there are obviously beautiful young women (20's) without children that are from lower stratas and are so poor they need a forienger.  Nope no such thing.  Now there are stunningly beautiful young women from poor strata that have children but, all the stunningly beautiful young (20's) women without children are from upper stratas.  Why?  I can explain that but, with some thought this is easily understood.

Okay folks.  After reading this the first thing that jumps in your mind will be to go on the attack.  Attacks won't really help you get the woman of your dreams and certainly won't be interesting reading.  However if you have a desire to discuss the issues I have raised here, and engage in some friendly discussion, feel free to speak what is on your mind.  Minus the attacks 

[robert angel]

OK boys--sic him! Ha ha. I have to say I agree with some of what you're saying, but of course there are no absolutes--people are people. I wondered-honestly I still do sometimes--why my wife married me. She had a good job as a computer engineer for Coca Cola, no kids, has a loving and healthy family and had much wealthier guys, such as a surgeon and pilot, among other foreigners, trying to win her heart. I made her wait 4 years and she never asked for even a peso to cover all those chats, despite barely being able to afford tuition for years, then after graduation, sending any extra money to help her sibling's tuition. Maybe she's crazier than me...

[Dave H]

OK boys--sic him! Ha ha.

Hey Rob,

No point!  "Okay here's the deal"...he has obviously lost his mind or is about to sell us his ladies and/or is about to offer us his new book,  "I Am the Only Man Who Has Ever Dated a Beautiful Young Woman Without Children (and how you can have my leftovers)" for 3 easy payments of $9.99.

Perhaps the man, the myth, the legend (at least in his own mind) King Dphax
("Survival Guide for Single Men") has returned!

PASS! I am one of the many guys here who married a beautiful, single woman without children...and she is even more edumacated than myself!

Dave

[Bob_S]

Perhaps the man, the myth, the legend (at least in his own mind) King Dphax
("Survival Guide for Single Men") has returned!

Really?  Based on his writing style, my first thought was UKCaliumbo, a.k.a. GatoAzul, has returned.  He's having some success in S. America (see the photo of the Latina he posted) and wants to share his experience.  Despite his low number of posts so far, his comment over on "Is This a Scam" topic shows he knows more about this process than a typical newbie.  Can be entertaining (taken with a grain of salt), as long as he doesn't get in more fights with the Latin Board guys.