what's happening to the country ??

[piglett]

 
There seems to be a whole lot of confusion of late, as to exactly what's happening to the country right now. But there really should be no need for either confusion or for panic because this has all happened before. Yes, it did happen exactly like this, once before, in this place that we renamed the United States of America. In fact all of that history is still continuing to affect the original victims even as I write these simple words.
 
What the hell am I talking about? I'm referring to what we call the Indian Wars, the ones that began over four-hundred years ago and that supposedly ended with the massacre at Wounded Knee in South Dakota. But that too was and still is another self-serving lie that you will not find in the approved versions of US History.
 
How does this relate to this very tense moment in current history? It actually touches virtually everything we are currently being subjected to. For instance: Our forefathers broke every single treaty they made with the native populations; and ended up stealing back almost all their lands as well as the natural resources that the many 'nations' had come into possession of, by way of the 'Reservations' they were given, in what the government thought was some of the worst land this country had. Only afterward did the government discover that much of the native lands actually had valuable resources, such as gold or oil on it, so the land had to be taken back from the Indians who were then moved to much worse conditions elsewhere.
 
The natives had been disarmed, and had signed treaties with the government, the same government we have now, who promised to protect them then, and on and on into the future: Of course the government did just the opposite they used and abused the natives and stole back virtually everything which the government had promised them; on top of the original theft of their lands, their languages, and their lives. It was a great little scam that we still don't even discuss. The situation as this affects us now; is that we are in exactly the same place as the original inhabitants were then. The government has made us all-kinds of promises which they never honor. Now they want to disarm us so that they can do unto us exactly what they did to the native populations: that's what the FEMA camps are for-these new camps shall be the new 'Reservations' that will house most of those which are not murdered outright.
 
The natives signed agreements with the settlers as well: These are very reminiscent of the kinds of labor-contracts, insurance-contracts, banking contracts and virtually anything that affects who gets how much, from whatever needs a contract, to describe the terms of any agreement between parties-the corporations have turned these scams into a mega-income stream that is only limited by the number of people that still have to enter into contracts-unemployment on the scale that we're headed for will soon terminate this particular fountain of illicit profit.
 
In the US today no one with a mega-money is ever required to honor any contract; while ordinary people are held very strictly, even to illegal contracts each and every day; the corporations just break any rules they choose as easily as they ignore the "contracts" which they signed at some point in their climb into the stratosphere of global money and power. Credit Card rates come to mind, and insurance premiums; not to mention interest rates that were supposed to remain contractually "fixed" that are now free-floating with no limit on how high they can go. But that's only for starters!
 
Just like what happened to the natives: we have lost our freedom of speech and we have become extremely limited in what we can "do" to earn a living. Beyond this we are told what to think, what to eat, what to avoid and when to sleep as well as how our lives ought to be lived. Does this remind you more of what we did to the natives than how free-American citizens were once rumored to have been able to live? We have no medical coverage that isn't riddled with bogus charges, our educational system looks exactly like what was given to the natives in those government run schools that were used to kill their spirit and erase their heritage, along with their native languages.
 
This government was supposedly formed "with the consent of the governed." Yet for the last three weeks we have been besieged with more fraudulent legislation in a few weeks than we usually hear about in a whole year, and the public has had no voice in any of it! Everything is under attack, from our identity cards to our ability to travel freely in our own country, to the ability to speak or communicate with anyone else without the government listening or watching every word or gesture that we make. We are now assumed to be guilty and must prove our innocence when we are trapped at check-points that serve as mobile interrogation zones, where the lucky ones are routinely tasered for speaking or even for just being there; while the unlucky can be killed for nothing at all, or just because they are not cops. 

[piglett]

& here's the like if you would like it   http://www.rense.com/general86/going.htm

[utopiacowboy]

The US government is a criminal enterprise run for the benefit of Goldman Sachs and the Bildenberg Group. Bush was a traitorous bastard along with his henchman, Cheney. They should both be executed for war crimes along with their numerous violations of the constitution.

[sean126]

I thought I was the only one who realized that. 

[Ray]

Bush was a traitorous bastard along with his henchman, Cheney. They should both be executed for war crimes along with their numerous violations of the constitution.

Yes folks, yet another case of acute BDS... 

Bush Derangement Syndrome: "The acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush"

 

[Swisskid]

Yes folks, yet another case of acute BDS... 

Bush Derangement Syndrome: "The acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush"

 

Actually I think "Worst President Ever" sums it up pretty well.  There is nothing deranged about that regardless of what druggie Douche Limbaugh and the other right-wingnut propaganda-meisters blather on the airwaves.  Thankfully I have a brain and an excellent education and have no problem utilizing logic and reason to think for myself.

"W" makes Dan Quayle look like a MENSA member....although I did like him in "Harold and Kumar go to Guantanamo Bay". 

[Ray]

Oh Boy! Yet another case of acute BDS.

Here, have another glass of Kool-Aid. It will calm you down... 

[Swisskid]

Oh Boy! Yet another case of acute BDS.

Here, have another glass of Kool-Aid. It will calm you down... 

I am completely calm, thanks.

How does thinking "W" was demonstrably the worst president in American history suddenly make me a "liberal"?  It takes alot for a president to be worse than Carter, the second worst in my opinion, just past Andrew Johnson. 

I have no political affiliations and consider myself an independent (albeit a heavily armed one).  Both US political parties make me vomit. 

It seems to me the rabid righties are the ones who do the most angry public ranting and have drank the koolaid.     

I realize applying the concepts of free-thinking education, logic, and reason are anethema to most of the dittohead crowd.  "Elitist" I believe is the term they apply.... They perceive thoughtful educated people as a threat to their jingoism and faux patriotism.

The left is just as bad with the MoveOn crowd now attacking the Blue Dogs...

Unfortunately, the lobbyists and the corporations, not "We, the People" truly control the power structure in this country.  Both the left and right exploit this to all of our detriment.   

[Ray]

I am completely calm, thanks.

How does thinking "W" was demonstrably the worst president in American history suddenly make me a "liberal"?  It takes alot for a president to be worse than Carter, the second worst in my opinion, just past Andrew Johnson. 

I have no political affiliations and consider myself an independent (albeit a heavily armed one).  Both US political parties make me vomit. 

It seems to me the rabid righties are the ones who do the most angry public ranting and have drank the koolaid.     

I realize applying the concepts of free-thinking education, logic, and reason are anethema to most of the dittohead crowd.  "Elitist" I believe is the term they apply.... They perceive thoughtful educated people as a threat to their jingoism and faux patriotism.

The left is just as bad with the MoveOn crowd now attacking the Blue Dogs...

Unfortunately, the lobbyists and the corporations, not "We, the People" truly control the power structure in this country.  Both the left and right exploit this to all of our detriment.   

Calm? My God man, listen to yourself! You’re ranting like a rabid liberal. And you sound like Rosie O’Donnell… LOL!

And yes, you ARE an elitist. When you say “Thankfully I have a brain and an excellent education and have no problem utilizing logic and reason to think for myself”, are you not implying that anyone on the right has no brain, is uneducated, and can’t think for himself? That’s exactly what you’re saying!

So only you liberal elitists are capable of free-thinking, education, logic, and reason? What a load of arrogant BS!

Now forget all that leftist BS your liberal professors brainwashed you with, calm down, and stop looking down your nose at the rest of us. You aren’t the only one here with an education and a brain.   

[Swisskid]

lib·er·al    (lbr-l, lbrl) KEY 

ADJECTIVE:


Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.


I guess you're right Ray.  Thanks for the exercise in self-discovery!

[Bear]

I do think Bush was the worst President ever because he got more liberal bills passed than the Republican controlled congress allowed Clinton.  But the sad thing was to watch a Republican controlled congress pass all that liberal bunk when they could have done exactly what the Democarats are doing now but in favor of the people.  None of what's occurring now would be.  But now the completely controlled liberal government will change things radically and we may never recover.

I think many of us forget that Bush #1 was a "one worlder" like the so "Jr" just came in and did what Pa couldn't.  But now that the one worlders are in control its going to get really interesting.  Still I have faith its not going to happen like the liberals think.  The revolt has started, the people are rebelling and none of the liberal policies has hit the fan yet, just been thrown that way.  When they see the money leaving the country and taxes sky-rocketing while jobs plummet, and the government do more than just call the people radicals, heaven help them, and us.

The Bear Family

[fathertime]

I thought  former Pres. Bush was making good decisions for a while, but in the end I think he was a subpar president who was way too liberal with the bucks.  Obama has an opportunity to be worse at the rate he is going.  I really think it is time for a third party to emerge because as it stands nothing much will get done and what does get done I almost always disagree with.

Fathertime!

[piglett]

I thought  former Pres. Bush was making good decisions for a while, but in the end I think he was a subpar
Fathertime!

I started to figure out that something was rotten in denmark when he didn't close our borders after 9/11
I would have thought 100k armed men on both our northern & southern border would have been a very good move.
After all if 20 million Mexicans can just walk across our wide open border why couldn't a few middle eastern fellas with a dirty bomb do the same?? 

president who was way too liberal with the bucks. 
Fathertime!

so you don't think bush should have spent money like a drunken sailor??

Obama has an opportunity to be worse at the rate he is going.  I really think it is time for a third party to emerge because as it stands nothing much will get done and what does get done I almost always disagree with.
Fathertime!

how about if we could change the 2 party's that we have back to what they used to be even just 20 or 30 years ago?


piglett

[bcc_1_2]

if I was posting on an NBA message board and started yapping about politics my post would get deleted. I see no reason to start a political debate on planet love anymore than I see a reason to talk about politics with my basketball buddies online.

For the purposes of the general topic we discuss here you'll find support for a lot of the views here from across the political spectrum. So regardless of if you are a liberal, conservative, libertarian, green, etc you may all very well hold the same opinion of international relationships and feminism. So before someone trys to hit me with their latest kool aide picture saying liberals all support feminism. I'll post a video below that proves otherwise. I'd say for the purposes of our discussion here the issue transcends political lines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oop5fY755Jo