Cartagena report

[fathertime]

Another factor is, while I remain in the upper tiers of well-hung'ness, I might still feel a bit like a tic-tac in a whale's mouth if the woman has been 'around' too much.  I want to feel good about all aspects of my manhood!

Fathertime!

[bigstew33]

Another factor is, while I remain in the upper tiers of well-hung'ness, I might still feel a bit like a tic-tac in a whale's mouth if the woman has been 'around' too much.  I want to feel good about all aspects of my manhood!

Fathertime!

Pfffffffft everybody get your rubber boots out, it just got deep 

[Ray]

It's too late for the boots...


   

[JamesDonut]

marriage to a Latina is hard enough without the complications of a questionable background

Amen....

[Xkss2002]

I don't suppose that it would be off-topic to throw this question out there to you gods of moral perfection. Tell us how a "good" latina should feel if you fellows who have been with prostitutes would fess up that little morsel of information to your wives, or girlfriends. Would you also classify yourselves as "less-than-desireable" in a world full of men who HAVEN'T been with ladies of the night? Feel free to answer that question as if it weren't you to whom I speak...in other words tell us how you view OTHER men who have visited these poor women who have no chance at a visa to the USA. Should they count themselves out of the race to marry a morally upstanding woman? If not, why not? Don't they also carry some scars, although of a different nature?
 
Another thing....should men who have been with prostitutes be banned from entering the USA on visas? If not, why not?

Ok, feel free to discuss among yourselves. Take care.

[osteve]

I don't suppose that it would be off-topic to throw this question out there to you gods of moral perfection. Tell us how a "good" latina should feel if you fellows who have been with prostitutes would fess up that little morsel of information to your wives, or girlfriends. Would you also classify yourselves as "less-than-desireable" in a world full of men who HAVEN'T been with ladies of the night? Feel free to answer that question as if it weren't you to whom I speak...in other words tell us how you view OTHER men who have visited these poor women who have no chance at a visa to the USA. Should they count themselves out of the race to marry a morally upstanding woman? If not, why not? Don't they also carry some scars, although of a different nature?
 
Another thing....should men who have been with prostitutes be banned from entering the USA on visas? If not, why not?

Ok, feel free to discuss among yourselves. Take care.

           I'd have to say that this is "off topic". I'd also have to say that most(and I hope ALL) the guys here are not concerned with men that visit prostitutes.If you haven't noticed, the guys on this board are concerned with finding a good woman. To be honest I have to question your identity.Are you female? Are you looking to find the right man in a foriegn country? To me, this just sounds like something a woman would come up with. I wouldn't marry a hooker and as far as the men who visit them goes, I'm just not concerned with them....

[Xkss2002]

"I'd have to say that this is "off topic". I'd also have to say that most(and I hope ALL) the guys here are not concerned with men that visit prostitutes.If you haven't noticed, the guys on this board are concerned with finding a good woman. To be honest I have to question your identity.Are you female? Are you looking to find the right man in a foreign country? To me, this just sounds like something a woman would come up with. I wouldn't marry a hooker and as far as the men who visit them goes, I'm just not concerned with them...."
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It is "on-topic" in the sense that many of those men who judge women who need to resort to prostitution to feed their families are the same ones who have in the past (and possibly still do when the opportunity presents itself) made a professional visit with them. I agree that it is not a good idea to purposely look for a prostitute for a longterm relationship, but do not agree that if true love exists between the two and each understands the risks involved, why there is a problem. 

It is also interesting to me how the visa laws exist to deny entry to prostitutes (present and former) and other "undesirables", but don't have a problem with the entry of those who have used the services of prostitutes. That seems to me a bit disingenuous. Would you have a problem if Colombia, Ecuador, and Peru denied entry to men who have, in their past, visited with hookers? I imagine so, but am always excited by a nice surprise.

With regards to your doubts that I am among those who pee standing up, perhaps I need to put you in contact with my girlfriends in Colombia to confirm it one way or the other. Maybe I am a lesbian? Ha! Tell you what, after reading this forum for various years, I have encountered uncountable off-topic comments. Humour me for a moment and answer the questions I originally posted, rather than deflect the interest away from a topic somewhat uncomfortable to many.  My guess is that very few of you are willing to do it, for obvious reasons. At some point we need to confront our hypocrisy but for most it is much easier to deny it exists and continue on our merry way.
 

[william3rd]

Boring. . . . 

Why don't you open your very own thread instead of posting on this one. That way, those who want to answer you can do that and those who  want to ignore you can do that as well. . . . 

You start smarting off about gods of perfection. . . . Who the hell are you to talk that way about anybody here?  Who made you the guardian of social conscience?

Only catz and Daytrader and a couple of others have the moral authority to speak of the gods of this forum. And a ten post wonder like yourself isnt one of those

[catz]

Only catz and Daytrader and a couple of others have the moral authority to speak of the gods of this forum.

Sorry William, they took away my moral authority badge and secret decoder ring so I'll have to leave the moral judgements to those who have the ability to live in glass houses.

I don't see the questions as being an issue as they do highlight another case of "do as I say and not as I do" that this (and every other) government are so good at.

FWIW

[osteve]

"I'd have to say that this is "off topic". I'd also have to say that most(and I hope ALL) the guys here are not concerned with men that visit prostitutes.If you haven't noticed, the guys on this board are concerned with finding a good woman.  I wouldn't marry a hooker and as far as the men who visit them goes, I'm just not concerned with them...."
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 Humour me for a moment and answer the questions I originally posted, rather than deflect the interest away from a topic somewhat uncomfortable to many.  My guess is that very few of you are willing to do it, for obvious reasons. At some point we need to confront our hypocrisy but for most it is much easier to deny it exists and continue on our merry way.
 

              I did answer your questions: I don't care either way.

[Ray]

xk, if you wish to marry a hooker, knock yourself out. It really doesn't bother me.

However, if you later find out that she isn't eligible for a visa because of her past, then that's your problem for not doing your homework beforehand.

If you really feel strongly about the unjust immigration laws that seek to keep prostitutes and pimps out of the country, then why don't you lobby your elected representatives to change the law? Perhaps you'll get more sympathy from them.. 

In reality, if she has no police record and there is no official record of her having worked in the sex trade, then she can probably get through the visa interview process, but she may have to be a good liar and perjure herself.

Sex background aside, do you really want to marry a good liar? Careful before you answer now... 

[bigstew33]

Just curious on this.  Does the Colombian government record when a woman works as a hooker?  Obviously if she is walking the street they wouldn't know but if she worked for a club do the owners report to the government what women work for them?  if prostitution is legal there why would they record this?  Well never mind I guess they record every persons job no matter what it is.  But it's a negative connotation for the women to be known as a hooker.  Don't they think that immigration would not be looked favorably upon by other countries? 

[Ray]

In some countries, the girls working in bars or nightclubs have a locally issued “entertainer’s license” or something with a similar name. The girls may also be required to have weekly or regular health screenings for STD’s or AIDS. If the employment or license records are only kept locally where she was employed, then it would probably take a special investigation by the consulate to uncover that fact.

Working in a bar doesn’t necessarily mean that the girl is a prostitute, but it will probably raise some red flags and likely result in closer questioning during the visa interview. If she didn’t list employment in a bar on her biographical data forms, then they may or may not ever find out.

Working in a bar doesn't disqualify her from obtaining a visa, but making a false statement on a visa application form can possibly result in visa denial with a lifetime immigration ban, deportation, or loss of citizenship later on down the road.

[catz]

Let's get back to the topic and keep the focus on that.

Thanks

[william3rd]

In some countries, the girls working in bars or nightclubs have a locally issued “entertainer’s license” or something with a similar name. The girls may also be required to have weekly or regular health screenings for STD’s or AIDS. If the employment or license records are only kept locally where she was employed, then it would probably take a special investigation by the consulate to uncover that fact.

Working in a bar doesn’t necessarily mean that the girl is a prostitute, but it will probably raise some red flags and likely result in closer questioning during the visa interview. If she didn’t list employment in a bar on her biographical data forms, then they may or may not ever find out.

Working in a bar doesn't disqualify her from obtaining a visa, but making a false statement on a visa application form can possibly result in visa denial with a lifetime immigration ban, deportation, or loss of citizenship later on down the road.

Unfortunately, working in a bar and many restaurants in Thailand can result in the visa trek being long and arduous. And, in Thailand, the vast majority of women working in bars, nightclubs, and the like, ARE prostitutes. In any event, you would be better served in not taking the risk in starting a relationship in those areas.

A case deferred for investigations can be stuck for months. Many times the investigators for the consulate will travel to the girls home town and check her addresses, travel to the restaurant to see if she is there and what kind of place it is. . . .