Back from baq IV

[chizz]

Hello all,
Today is Wednsday, but before I get into wednsday, I forgot to say something about tuesday. Girl no. 2 had called me at around 4:00 or so, because we were suppose to hook up tuesday evening. When she had called I was in my room, and by the time I got to the office, she had hung up already. I asked the secretary to call her back, and tell her I was not interested anymore. Back to wednsday, I got up at around 5:00am, studied, and walked to the puerta del sol hotel(or something like that, and had breakfast). I came back to the agency and called up girl no. 3. We talked and because she was working and I had prior commitments, we couldn't hook up. She asked me to call her before I leave tomorrow, and I said I would. At about 11:00, girl no. 6 showed up, looking very good, and we took a taxi to buena vista. The movie didn't start until 12:45, so this gave us plenty of time to talk. I learned that she has family in the states, in fact, her mother, brothers and sisters, are there, and she's the only one in Barranquilla. When she said that, warning signals went off in my head, "maybe she is just looking for a way to get to the states". I asked her, Why is she still here and her family is in the states? Doesn't she want to be with them?" She said yes, and that her mother had remarried and has been in the states for 21 years, and her brothers were born there. She said her family had applied for her to come to the states under a resident visa, and they would sponsor her. So, hopefully she could be in the states around october. I found that very interesting. I then asked her something I asked everyone I met, "why did you join the agency?", she said because initially she joined because her friend joined, and she really didn't take it to serious. But after her friend found someone, she started thinking that she could probably find someone better in the states. I asked her what she meant, and she said that the fact that she had a child made it extremely difficult to find a good man in colombia. In fact, this is what all the women I met said. I told her that I really don't have a problem with a woman with a child, my only concern is what's up with dad? Is he psycho? Is he still in the kids life? would he have a problem with his kid leaving? and such. I told her a woman with 2 kids is pushing it, and 3 kids no, to much drama. She laughed. We went into crepes n waffles next to the cinema and ate first, and asked her if she could cook these items on the menu. She said, "of course, it's very easy". So far im liking this girl alot. After we finished eating, I told her I wanted to see pirates, but she said she already saw it, and wanted to see spider man. I lied and said I hadn't seen it( I've seen it 4 times), so i bought tickets for it. The movie was in spanish only, but it didn't matter since I knew most of the dialogue anyway. She loved the movie, as did I the first 3 times I saw it. For some reason, they didn't turn on the lights, and when we were walking down the stairs, she grabbed my hand so she wouldnt fall. I was enjoying her company very much, and when she grabbed my hand, I was shocked, but happy. When we got through the door into the lobby, I noticed she hadn't let my hand go. I was on cloud nine, wishing my boys could see me now...lol. We walked around the mall a few times, and looked inside a few stores, and then left. We went back to the agency around 4:00, and she told me she had to pick up her daughter at 5:00, but she wanted to spend as much time with as possible until she had to go. She said that she wanted to come to the airport, to say goodbye to me. Another shocker for me. I said of course, I would like that. She left at around 4:45, and I spent alot of time talking with the secretaries and translators in the office.I went back into my room to study and wait for girl no.5 when one of the translators knocked on my door. She gave me 70000 pesos, and I said what's this for. She said jamie wanted to give this to you because one of your girls had canceled(the one he kicked out of the agency girl no. 4) and we couldn't get you another appointment.I said "Is he here? this isn't necessary, I've met 7 girls here, you don't owe me anything". I went into the office, and said "Jamie, can I talk to to you?". He said sure. I told him, You and your girls have done way more than enough for me, you don't owe me this. He said "That's your money we're not giving you anything, we like to keep our end of the bargain, and I don't feel like we did. you only met 4 girls instead of the 5 you paid for." I said I met some other girls her also, but he wasn't having it, and insisted I keep it, and use it to pay for the taxes at the airport." How many agency owners would do something like that??, none of the ones I've dealt with.   At around 6:45, girl no. 5 arrived at the agency, and for some reason, I was feeling like I was coming down with the flu or something. I wanted to go back to nena lena, but she wanted to go to pizza loca. She was still wearing her uniform, and didn't want to go to nena wearing that. We went to one a good distance away, and ate and talked. When we came back to the agency, we spent the next few hours together, and she didn't want to leave. She ended up leaving at about 11:00. It was very difficult saying good bye to her, since we had talked so much and knew each other so well.
Thursday: My day of departure, at around 7:30, I called  girl no. 6 and asked her was she still coming, because she wasnt' here at the agency. She said she wanted to meet me at the airport at around 9:30 since my flight wasn't until 11:00. I said ok, and called each girl to tell them goodbye, and how much I enjoyed my time with them. Each one wanted to know when i was coming back, and I said it depends on when I can get my next vacation but probably sometime later this year. I called for a cab and went to the airport. I went through the baggage check and checked in, and waited for girl no. 6 to arrive, but by 10:00 she hadn't shown up, and I couldn't wait any longer. So I went through international departures, and waited for my flight. To make a long story short, I arrived home about 10:30pm, and called girl no. 5 and let her know I was home safe.
Observations: The women-I've been to cali 4 times, and barranquilla 2 times, and to me the girls look just as good as cali. The only difference is you see more morenas in Barranquilla, and they are just as beautiful as the lighter skinned women in Barranquilla or cali. In fact, I've found that the women in Barranquilla are, in general, more friendly than in cali. So in my opinion you can find Beautiful women in Barranquilla, just as readily as you can in cali. The mall in barranquilla holds just as many beautiful women as the mall in cali. I must have broken my neck several times a minute looking at women in Barranquilla. In fact, i would go to barranquilla before i returned to cali.
The agency: I've been to 7 or 8 agencies overall and Jamie's is by far the best agency, i've ever been in. His approach is hands on, and he's on top of everything personnally, and you can rest assured when you walk out of the office, him and his staff is taking care of you. Very professional, and organized, no stone is left unturned. I can see why sean spoke so highly of jamie and his agency. Probably the best thing about his agency is there is no fluff. He's a straight shooter, he tells it like it is, and doesn't sugar coat anything. If a girl is acting up, he deals with her right away. If he thinks a girl is doing some strange things he tells you. If things don't work out with any of the girls I will be corresponding with, I will return there in a heartbeat. Without a doubt, the most trustworthy owner I've ever spoken with, Highly recommend his agency. I equate it to a shopper who goes into a jewelry store and has two choices you can pay less and get a fake gold ring that might turn colors, or you can pay a little more, and get the real deal. Where as the other agencies i've been to and spoken with turn colors, jamies is the real deal, you won't be disappointed. The girls he has there working for him, are top notch, the translators are great, and they are always working for you. You won't have to keep sticking your head in the office asking"what's up, do I have anything going on", because they'll already have it covered. Can't stress enough how organized and professional jamie and his staff is, as jamie said to me, he doesn't want to see me or anyone else again. He truly wants you to meet someone and be happy, not try to marry you off, so he can take a picture and brag about it. I was very impressed with international introductions.
Girl no.1- She was very nice, but I didn't feel any chemistry with her.
Girl no.2-Started out very promising, but fizzled towards the end, to bad, because she was drop dead gorgeous.
Girl no.3-Started out badly, because of a misunderstanding, but could be promising, I'll have to speak with her a few more times.
Girl no. 4. Nothing at all. she ended up getting kicked out of the agency, because of her playing games.
Girl no. 5. Was the front runner going down, and still has a slight lead on the others, she does have a temper, which is making me think alittle, but we'll see.
Girl no. 6 another promising situation. Don't know what happened at the airport, but Im going to wait and see if she writes me.
The other 2 girls I met were nice but don't know what will happen with that.
Another thing, I mentioned many times that the girls stated I was the first guy they had met. This is truly tragic. If anyone is sitting on the fence, and undecided about going, Get you behind down there. The girls are looking to meet someone, but you have to go down. You won't be disappointed, especially if you use jamie's agency. I had a great time,and look forward to going back. Thanks.
Chizz

[sean126]

Excellent Post chizz.....one of the few trip reports that I actually enjoyed reading.  I wish you would have spent another week there....I was getting into it.
Congrats on a good trip.

[chizz]

Thanks sean, I wish I could've stayed longer as well, but I look forward to going back.
Chizz

[jediknight]

i agree with sean, i'm disappointed that you weren't there longer to continue with the story but i'm glad that you were able to go and experience the beauty barranquilla has to offer as far as the women that live there.

it sounds like you'll be going back and i hope that you can pick up where you left off with some of the girls and perhaps meet some new ones. not making it to the airport is not unusual, it's pretty far, traffic can get heavy and it's not cheap. i don't know where this girl was traveling from but where my wife lives it's 20.000 pesos, so roundtrip would be about $20 dollars. so if this girl lives far it can be kind of steep seeing someone for a few minutes. if she had been your girlfriend i would expect her to go but i hope you cut the girl some slack for not showing up. it's also nice to see that jaime was looking out for you and really made you feel comfortable. you appear to have a good outlook and attitude towards this process and i hope you have the same success many of us here have had in barranquilla. good luck
JK

[chizz]

Nah, I wasn't upset with her for not showing, I figured something must of came up and she couldn't make it, or couldn't afford it. I would've gladly paid for her, but she probably didn't want to ask. I was disappointed since I was really looking forward to seeing her. Yeah, Jamie is on point with his agency, and I will be returning to Barranquilla, thanks JK.
Chizz

[John W]

Chizz:

Did you pay a flat fee to the agency or per date/woman you met.  Also, what was the total charge and I take it that it included staying at the agency.

[sean126]

John W,

I'll let Chizz fill you in, since it's his thread but the website is....www.latin-wife.com

It's not the cheapest you'll find, but like Chizz said....it is worth it and you'll get what you paid for....plus a little more, in my opinion.  I've never known him to be anything but honest and straight forward with me or my friends.

[fathertime]

Chizz,

First I would like to say I enjoyed reading your "Story" and you appear to be a good guy that had a lot of fun.  I have some unsolicited constructive type comments I could make, but I have learned that not everyone needs/wants to hear all views.  If you are interested I will make these comments/suggestions, if not thanks for the good story and continued good luck!

Fathertime!

[chizz]

John, I pre-paid for everything before I went down. I paid for 5 introductions, but like I said one of them canceled, and jamie refunded the the difference to me. I talked to a few more girls in there, because new ones were coming in everyday, and Jamie had no problem with me talking to them. In a few cases he asked me if I wanted to meet them, when they came in, at no additional charge. My total came to roughly $630.00 counting staying there and the introductions, for 7 nights.
Fathertime fire away.
chizz

[william3rd]

Chizz- this was one of the best trip reports that I have read in a long time on any board. Hope to hear more about your quest in the future.

[daytrader]

Chizz -

Excellent trip report, thanks for all the detail and effort; you answered my questions as to cost, sounds like a good deal for those that are interested.  You only chose 5 from all those on his website (which is top of the line IMO) -- I'm surprised you didn't have the urge to interview many more during your free time.  Do you feel his web profiles of the ladies gave you a good indication of what you were going to find?  Any regrets or things you didn't do on your trip?

Thanks again for the trip report, great reading! 

DayTrader

[chizz]

First, William and Daytrader, Thanks alot for the compliments, Im glad you enjoyed reading it. I know I wrote alot, but I wanted try to highlight the important parts of my trip, for people who've never been, or have been thinking of going, so they can use or learn from what I did. I only chose 5 because for me, my plan was to meet these five(I had actually picked out 20, I believe 10 or 12 said they were interested, and I narrowed it down to 6 then 5), interview them, and meet them between friday and sunday, and spend monday through wednesday with the ones I were interested in. I agree his website is top notch, and like I said, I looked through 2000+ easily while I was there. I also had to leave some time to study, because I have a huge detective exam coming up at the end of June, However, I met and talked to more girls while I was there, because they came in daily, and Jamie had no problem with me meeting with them and possible even going out with them if necessary. As far as the profiles helping out with my decisions, I would have to say, very much so. The questions they had to answer were very detailed and gave good insight into their thinking. Any regrets? I was trying so hard to put it behind me, but yes I have a huge regret, and i've been kicking myself for it. I believe it was over the weekend, when it happened. A beautiful woman came into the agency, and talked with the secretaries, I don't know why she was there, but I couldn't take my eyes off her. She walked by me, and I made sure to make eye contact, and said "hola, como esta?". She smiled and said hola, bien y tu? I said bien tambien.  When she walked into the office, her son came out to the lobby, and I had my laptop with me, and he wanted to see it, so I showed him how it worked. He was a good kid, very curious. She came out the office, and saw me playing with her son, and smiled, and said to her son, they need to leave. She walked outside with her son and a woman she was with, and Jamie was standing there near the door, and I saw her get into a car. I asked Jamie, "she has car?". He said yeah, and a nice job. I asked how old she was, and he said 32. My face lit up. 32! perfect Jamie asked me if I wanted to meet her, i said yes. He went into the office and asked the secretary to make the appointment. But then I started feeling like I was taking advantage of Jamie, and told him, never mind, I don't want to meet her. He said ,"you sure?, it's no problem, no charge". I said yeah, but thanks anyway. She came back in to the agency a day or 2 later, and did the 3 way translation with a guy who saw her profile online. Dam, she was looking good. She walked by me on the way out, said goodbye, as did I. I started thinking about it thursday morning, and by the time I arrived home, I so pissed off at myself, I couldn't think straight. What a dummy! Could it have worked between us? Don't know, but dam I should've met her. The lesson to others, Don't leave any regrets, If you get an opportunity like the one I had, take it, and deal with things later. That's probably the only regret I can think of.
Chizz

[fathertime]

Hey Chizz, I was going to try to say a bunch of constructive type suggestions but in my opinion, you seem to be on the ball for the most part.  I don't know if you are a Denzel Washington lookalike or a Gary Coleman clone so take everything I say as if we are two old buddies skimming stones at the lake while shooting the s h i t.

What I do notice is you give ladies the benefit of the doubt a lot more than I would.  I have learned an unreturned phone call or a no-show ALWAYS means forgetaboutit!  I cut and run and do not look back. If a woman does not show me a courtesy and keeps me waiting than she is not interested and I no longer am either.  My feeling is if your going to get nowhere with a woman, it is best to go NOWHERE FAST, nothing is worse than going nowhere slowly!   
The fact is, I wouldn't want a woman who is lacking the maturity to show courtesy.  Based on my expererience, early on if a lady is interested, she is going to really make it obvious with not only words but more importantly ACTIONS.  If I had a nickel for everytime I heard how interested a Colombian lady was interested in me, I'd have 100 dollars, BUT I can count on both hands how many ACTIONS actually were congruent with the words.  When one does demonstrate the "Action" I speak of it is awful sweet.  The main problem I ran across was it was usually a lady that I considered a "Fall Back" type girl and "Fall Backs" are not what I went to Colombia for. 

In regards to Jamie's agency, I concur completely.  I have been to 7+ agencies and his has been the best by a wide margain.  I found Jamie and his personnel to be hard working, and reliable.  That is not all that common with agencies in general. 

If I were you, I would talk to Jamie and get the number of the 32 year old you met in the Jamie's lobby.  If she gave you "That Look" she won't have forgotten you, yet.  It is not too late to correct your one regret but do it quickly, the longer you wait the less likely you are to take action. 

These are my opinions and I kinda threw them together and some probably don't even pertain to you...I just felt like talking I guess!


Fathertime!

[chizz]

Sup FT,
I will first address your point of me seeming to give more of a benefit of the doubt. I would think that you are referring to girl no.2 because that's the only girl this would come into play for. I learned a long time ago, and had this thinking reinforced because of my job, it's never good to make rash, and rushed decisions. I don't assume anything, and prefer to work on facts. I didn't go to colombia assuming anything. None of these girls owed me anything just like I didn't owe them anything. I went into each interview with the mindset that before anything can happen, Myself and this lady had to be friends first, and if anything grows from this, great, if not then I made a new friend. I don't know exactly it is you were referrencing, so I'll hit what I think were the major points with girl no. 2.
1. Our intitial interview went very well. Lots of laughing, and talking and questioning. I told her I had a meeting with another lady after her, and she was ok with it and came back later that night. When she came back, she had her work cloths on, and didn't want to go anywhere. I had no problem with it, and much like girl no.5, I know girls like to look their best when they go out, and she wasn't at her best, so it was cool with me.
2. Yes, it was strange, that she asked me if I wanted to go out with her and her friend and her boyfriend, after she said she couldn't make it saturday, it was no skin off my back, as I had plans to go out, and at that point, there was nothing invested in girl no. 2. Just a meeting, and a phone call. So I saw no reason to say "I don't want to see you anymore".
3. When she came by on sunday, and said she had a casting call, and had to change our time to later in the night, I said, well you couldn't call me earlier and tell me this, She said her agent called her and told her about it late afternoon, and she did call and told the agency that(I was out on a date, but she did call). She said that it is difficult to find work, and when it comes up she has to take it because she needed the money. Valid arguement. In fact, it's something I would've done myself. I know the situation in colombia, so I accepted that arguement fact. She didn't cancel the date, she wanted to move it until after her casting call, I'm the one who canceled, not her.
4. Now, this is when it was over. I called her on monday i believe, to see how her test went, and when she kept asking con quien habla for about 25 secs, and I heard a guys voice, and she hung up. I called back to see if there was a mistake, and she didn't answer. That right there, more than anything caused me to decide ok, I don't want to talk with this woman anymore. I don't take disrespect from anyone, and what she did then was disrespectful. So when she called the next day, I told the secretary to tell her I'm not interested in her anymore. There was no time lost with her, and I always had something on my plate, so it reallly wasn't that big of deal to me, and those were the reasons why.
But as far as that other stuff you were saying, had nothing to do with me, probably some newbie, who's never been to colombia, or hasn't experience life before. You're preaching to the choir in that aspect my friend.
Concerning the 32 year old, I over-heard a bit of her conversation when she had that 3-way chat, and I heard her say she felt something spiritual when she was talking to the client. So, in my eyes, she's with someone, and I don't like talking to a woman that's involved already.
chizz

[Looking4Wife]

Chizz:

Enjoyed reading your trip reports... it was like I was back in Barranquilla all over again, working with Jamie and his excellent staff.

Fortunately, I used Jamie's agency on my first (and subsequent) trip(s) to Colombia, so I didn't have to put up with all the nonsense people have experienced with other agencies.

As you said, he typically delivers far more than promised.  I'm so thankful for my wife, whom I met thru Jamie, who is sleeping in the next room.

Buena suerte y Dios te bendiga...

[mudd]

nice report, really enjoyed reading it, Jamie does run a very good agency, probably one of the best i have used.

[doombug]

If I were one of these dames, I might find it a bit deflating to be told that there are other chicas in line right behind me. They get all sexied up, dish out some plata for a cab, and travel some distance only to be sucker punched with, "I have another cita in fifteen minutes. Can we talk tomorrow?" As an impassioned Latina, I might get a little peeved and opt not to return the agency's calls too.

But I'm not a Latina dame (last I checked my crotchal zone), so I wouldn't know.

Maybe the agency Gods could device a more discreet way of handling the cita system for the benefit of their female clients.

(Nothing against you or your report, chizz. I'm just pointing out a minor flaw in IMB protocol.)

[Looking4Wife]

If I were one of these dames, I might find it a bit deflating to be told that there are other chicas in line right behind me. They get all sexied up, dish out some plata for a cab, and travel some distance only to be sucker punched with, "I have another cita in fifteen minutes. Can we talk tomorrow?" As an impassioned Latina, I might get a little peeved and opt not to return the agency's calls too.

But I'm not a Latina dame (last I checked my crotchal zone), so I wouldn't know.

Maybe the agency Gods could device a more discreet way of handling the cita system for the benefit of their female clients.

(Nothing against you or your report, chizz. I'm just pointing out a minor flaw in IMB protocol.)

Doombug:

It doesn't work that way (at least not in Jamie's agency).

Typically, the women are aware of the possibility that you're meeting other women while you're there, and that's part of the agencies job to inform them.  The women understand that the purpose of the agency is to help you meet more than one woman, to increase your chances of finding a wife.

Despite the fact that the women are informed of this, that doesn't mean that they have to be happy about it, especially after they've met the guy and decided that they like him or would like to get to know him better.

[markanthony7]

Hi Chizz, I wanted to ask you how is your Spanish, does Jamie make his interpeters available for his clients on dates and translations out of his office?, how much extra does he charge for an interpeter to assist you? does interpeters charge by the day or by the hour?

[Calipro]

But didn't you get past the talking stage with any of these women?

I understand that you might not be one to kiss and tell so just give us some kind of sign;-)

[daytrader]

Mark Anthony sez -- Hi Chizz, I wanted to ask you how is your Spanish, does Jamie make his interpeters available for his clients on dates and translations out of his office?, how much extra does he charge for an interpeter to assist you? does interpeters charge by the day or by the hour?

Mark, just have Luis require everyone to tip him $100 US per day, that should cover it. That way you don't need other forum members to do your own market research that all business owners are responsible for doing themselves. 

DayTrader

(or if you are going to be so lazy, send the guy a PM, so all of us don't find out that you don't even know what your competition does). 

[chizz]

But didn't you get past the talking stage with any of these women?

I understand that you might not be one to kiss and tell so just give us some kind of sign;-)

hmm....interesting question. Let's just say, there was no sex. Which I respected greatly. I don't want a woman who gives it up easily to me, because that means she gives it up easily to everyone, i'm not special.

Mark, just have Luis require everyone to tip him $100 US per day, that should cover it. That way you don't need other forum members to do your own market research that all business owners are responsible for doing themselves. 

DayTrader

(or if you are going to be so lazy, send the guy a PM, so all of us don't find out that you don't even know what your competition does). 

Amen.

chizz

[EbonyPrince]

Chizz your report was muy excellente!  Man you are so on point about Jamie's agency and his staff, I can't add anything.  Too bad all agencies aren't like Jamie's.  Those ladies that work for him work their arses off.  I remember my translator looking tired when we parted and looking tired when I saw her the next morning, but she never missed a beat with me.

Jamie has always done right by me, and him and his people has always looked out for my interests.  I am the type of person that sits back and watches people and how they react in certain situations, and I cannot say anything bad or perceived anything negative about his people.  If anyone gets out of hand from translators, to clients, to girls on the website, Jamie deals with it expeditiously.

Unfortunately I am too picky, but I have met some wonderful girls through his agency.  It is too bad that the hot ones usually turn out to be flakes .  My advice man, and it is just that, I wouldn't waste my time on the girl that didn't show up at the airport.  If it quacks like a duck man...  I have learned that you can't make excuses.  Although the culture is different, I have met many ladies in Colombia that are more reliable than some people here.  So don't use the culture thing to excuse away character flaws.

The secret I have found to get Jamie to talk more is to discuss football .

[fathertime]

My advice man, and it is just that, I wouldn't waste my time on the girl that didn't show up at the airport.  If it quacks like a duck man... 

I totally agree with that statement.

It is too bad that the hot ones usually turn out to be flakes

I think the trick here is to find a regular attractive girl, that is totally hot in your eyes. I think that gal would be less likely to be a stuck-up flake.


Jamie and his staff are very good at what they do.  His results speak for themselves. 



Fathertime!

[utopiacowboy]

"I think the trick here is to find a regular attractive girl, that is totally hot in your eyes."

Exactly! I think my wife is the hottest chick on the planet.