Why the emphasis on certain countries?

[Ray]

 panocha

"panochototototota - (pan o cho toe toe toe toe tah) gooooooooood pXXXy"   

[Cali-vet]

TLC did infact run tours to Venezuela. However I´ve been told that on their last tour a female TV reporter came to the first night´s event, reported on television that it was all about gringos looking for whores and no women showed up for the second "social" or anything else. The local powers that be then told TLC not to let the door hit them in the ass. Interestingly a stratagy that seems to have resulted from that fiasco is their involvement in recent years with orphanages in the cities where they hold tours. The involvement consists of inviting employees of the orphanage and orphans to the pre event pep talk meeting and asking the male clients in attendence to make on the spot cash donations. Too bad Venezuela didn´t pan out as there are just as many beautiful women in Venezuela as there are in Colombia. Any word on Bolivia?

[doombug]

"Hey, assmunches, how do you know I wasn't talking about Columbia, Missouri, or Columbia, Maryland? What, there aren't any pretty girls in those cities or somethin'?

"Jesus on a Saltine!

"Wait 'till I tell my mom about you guys. She's gonna have you for l-u-n-c-h...or as an a-p-p-e-t-i-z-e-r...or maybe an after lunch m-i-n-t.

"If they were filming a dorkumentary, then you'd all be the cast!

"Ha!"

"Now who's having the last l-a-u-g-h!"

[utopiacowboy]

Interesting how different experiences can be. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico and the women just don't express any interest, verbal or otherwise, in me. Maybe it's just me. Here in Texas there are a ton of Mexicana/gringo marriages but that's Texas. Meanwhile in Colombia, damm, I don't know what it is but women all over the place were extremely eager to talk to me. Hell I would be waiting in a mall for my wife and I'd have women passing me waving and smiling. Never got that in any mall in Monterrey. I started out looking for a Mexicana who lived close to me (I used to live close to the border) and I figured it would be easy to find many attractive candidates but that was far from the case. So your mileage may vary.

[Christopher]

Interesting how different experiences can be. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico and the women just don't express any interest, verbal or otherwise, in me. Maybe it's just me. Here in Texas there are a ton of Mexicana/gringo marriages but that's Texas. Meanwhile in Colombia, damm, I don't know what it is but women all over the place were extremely eager to talk to me. Hell I would be waiting in a mall for my wife and I'd have women passing me waving and smiling. Never got that in any mall in Monterrey. I started out looking for a Mexicana who lived close to me (I used to live close to the border) and I figured it would be easy to find many attractive candidates but that was far from the case. So your mileage may vary.

Well, I don't know.  I'm in Texas as well.  And surrounded by American Latinas, few of which I can easily meet.  They're certainly not on US online dating sites (which proves their intelligence, IMHO ). 

I've read that the pros don't like the Agencies, and I guess I can kind of see that, but not sure how else to get my feet wet.  I mean, I live in a city with Latinas now and have no venue to meet them.  If I flew myself down to Guadalajara, or Lima, or Bogota, how would that change any? 

Caveat:  it is very possible that Latinas south of the border are different than Latinas north of it.  I feel that's fairly likely, even, but as you say, YMMV.

[michaelb]

Well, I don't know.  I'm in Texas as well.  And surrounded by American Latinas, few of which I can easily meet.

They have no grocery stores where you live?

[Christopher]

They have no grocery stores where you live?

Sure.  I suck at small talk. 

Besides, hitting up women while they are working hasn't worked for me.  They're there to make bank, not get hit on, you know.

Heck, if I wanted to hit on Latinas here, there's a couple of taquerias that are worth going to just for the view of the waitresses.

[papi]

Ray, I don't understand your malfunction. I don't want to be the spelling cop. A lot of guys though in the past will try to educate the newbies on the spelling of colombia because spelling it wrong is a common gringo error. I have even seen it spelled incorrectly in the press

[valleydude]

In this thread alone Venezuela is -2

-6, I have 4 trips there.
(I wasn't very smart.)

VD

[Christopher]

-6, I have 4 trips there.
(I wasn't very smart.)

VD

What's the major malfunction in Venezuela?  Anti-American?  Women all think they're supermodels?

[valleydude]

I would really love to pinpoint it for you, but I don't think I can. However; I'll give it a shot...

I have found the same trait in the 2 that I dated as well as the hundreds that I have written. That is that when they think something to be true, it is true. To make matters worse, you are then treated accordingly to this imaginary truth. Imagine being in a relationship with a girl that just starts coming up with off the wall stuff like Chavez. Even worse, the girl actually believes what she is saying. If you don't think like them, it's all over. I would say that is the major malfunction that I experienced.

Yeah there are some nice looking girls there, but it is overrated.
The ones there aren't any nicer looking than anywhere else. I actually see more hot chicks sitting in the Panama airport waiting for my connection.

VD

[Ray]

Ray, I don't understand your malfunction. I don't want to be the spelling cop. A lot of guys though in the past will try to educate the newbies on the spelling of colombia because spelling it wrong is a common gringo error. I have even seen it spelled incorrectly in the press

It's not my malfunction Papi, it's YOURS!

Like I told the last wannabe Spelling Sheriff before he rode out of town, this forum isn't about correct spelling and grammar. At least have the good sense to make sure you know how to spell correctly yourself in the very same post where you are correcting others...DUH!

So spelling Colombia is a common error. Big deal! Not capitalizing names of countries or languages is also a common error, but who cares anyway? Did you ever stop to think that some others may be just as annoyed by your poor spelling as you are by some newbie's spelling?

I think you're smart enough to figure out what the guy was talking about despite a simple spelling error, so why not get over it and just try listening to what he has to say.

But if you are really, really bothered by spelling errors, why not send the guy a PM instead of chastising him in public and trying to make yourself look good? Now wouldn't that have been better than making an ass of yourself?

[Jeff S]

Part of how Latinas (or all women for that matter) receive you is in how you present yourself. I have seen Mexican women who I know could speak perfect English suddenly no habla when approached by gringos who were dressed in typical sloppy American casual. I've also read that somethng like 80% of communication is non verbal, and women are WAY better at reading it than men. Some research and practice projecting the right body language will take you far.

[papi]

Ray, over the years many others have pointed out the correct spelling of Colombia in a friendly manner, as I recently did so by simply stating to note the spelling, but it is d***wads like you that make PL a less favorable place to visit and prevent others from participating.  Escucheme gran pendejo, comase un cerro de mierda!

[Dan]

Ray and papi,

Contain your pejoratives to the FlameRoom. You are already bashing one another there - do not let it pervade into the other sections of the site.

- Dan

[michaelb]

Besides, hitting up women while they are working hasn't worked for me.  They're there to make bank, not get hit on, you know.

Well, I was thinking of the other customers, not necessarily the cashiers, but either is acceptable.

[quote author=Christopher link=topic=1743.msg15232#msg15232 date=1174791240

Heck, if I wanted to hit on Latinas here, there's a couple of taquerias that are worth going to just for the view of the waitresses.
[/quote]

If I wanted to...(implying that you DON'T want to) isn't the same as not being able to easily meet any. If none of the ones you have met locally interest you as 'the one' or even 'a possibility', that's fine too.

[Christopher]

Well, I was thinking of the other customers, not necessarily the cashiers, but either is acceptable.

[quote author=Christopher link=topic=1743.msg15232#msg15232 date=1174791240

Heck, if I wanted to hit on Latinas here, there's a couple of taquerias that are worth going to just for the view of the waitresses.


If I wanted to...(implying that you DON'T want to) isn't the same as not being able to easily meet any. If none of the ones you have met locally interest you as 'the one' or even 'a possibility', that's fine too.

Oh, sorry, no I see your point now.  No, certainly, I would like to, but hitting on women out of nowhere for me is about as awkward as Dick Cheney inviting someone hunting or Hillary Clinton smiling.

I've met many that interest me.  They're all either co-workers (and I'm a firm believer in 'you don't crap where you eat') or married or both.

[michaelb]

I've met many that interest me.  They're all either co-workers (and I'm a firm believer in 'you don't crap where you eat') or married or both.

Very wise decision, on BOTH points. The two main problems I see with meeting Latina women in Texas is that they are already attached or they (certainly not all, but a lot of them) are 'undocumented'  (often both). Being neither a Border Patrol agent nor the morals police, I don't rat out people for that, but I sure wouldn't want the hassle of getting clean paperwork for one either. A guy I worked with married one (an illegal) and he finally got her legal, but it cost plenty of $ for a lawyer and extra fees...and that was a few years ago while the amnesty was still in effect, I don't even know if you can pull it off at all these days. But, if you hang out a Latin restaurants and clubs and shop a Fiesta, Carnival or Michoacana, you can certainly meet plenty of them....just find out about her status (both civil and immigration) before getting too involved.

[Christopher]

Very wise decision, on BOTH points. The two main problems I see with meeting Latina women in Texas is that they are already attached or they (certainly not all, but a lot of them) are 'undocumented'  (often both). Being neither a Border Patrol agent nor the morals police, I don't rat out people for that, but I sure wouldn't want the hassle of getting clean paperwork for one either. A guy I worked with married one (an illegal) and he finally got her legal, but it cost plenty of $ for a lawyer and extra fees...and that was a few years ago while the amnesty was still in effect, I don't even know if you can pull it off at all these days. But, if you hang out a Latin restaurants and clubs and shop a Fiesta, Carnival or Michoacana, you can certainly meet plenty of them....just find out about her status (both civil and immigration) before getting too involved.

Good call.  I doubt the majority are illegals.  Certainly, the ones I have dated or worked with or whatever are legal and/or native.

I hadn't considered the 'making an illegal alien legal' angle, stupidly.  Thanks for the input.

[utopiacowboy]

Marriage to a US citizen still absolves nearly all sins except failure to be inspected upon entry. For your run of the mill, tourist overstays and working illegally, marriage and AOS is fairly routine. I know several who have done it even using fraudulent marriages.

The whole world of local Spanish-speaking Latinas is one I never entered until I was married to my wife. Now I meet all sorts of women, who if I weren't married, would be good candidates. It's like getting the key to a private club.

[Christopher]

Marriage to a US citizen still absolves nearly all sins except failure to be inspected upon entry. For your run of the mill, tourist overstays and working illegally, marriage and AOS is fairly routine. I know several who have done it even using fraudulent marriages.

The whole world of local Spanish-speaking Latinas is one I never entered until I was married to my wife. Now I meet all sorts of women, who if I weren't married, would be good candidates. It's like getting the key to a private club.

I hate you. 


I know this guy who lives east of you...

Send some of them my way.

[michaelb]

Marriage to a US citizen still absolves nearly all sins except failure to be inspected upon entry.

But U.C., that IS the problem. The ones you meet shopping at Fiesta are more likely to be 'failure to be inspected upon entry' cases than they are to be tourist visa overstays.....a whole lot MORE likely. Not that that makes them bad people, mind you. It just makes them people with an immigration problem that will be complicated, difficult, frustrating  and expensive to fix should a citizen decide to marry one of them.

[Diablo]

The attitude problem mentioned above pertains to the upper class people, not the regular ones.

Isn't this the case with most upper class people in Latin America?

It doesnt just pertain to Venezuela.

Time seems to be the problem

[Jamie]

Christopher here is my take.

Number 1 many men appreciate the look of Colombian women. You have good variety falling in the range of what many men find attractive. You have less Indian like features in Colombia then for example Ecuador features that do not appear to be in high demand. You are not going to find the great, shapely asses that you will find in Colombia for example in Peru.

Number 2 for its size Colombia does not receive very many American visitors so to them we are exotic and are warmly received. Colombians in general have a positive perception of America and Americans. Our status in their eyes allows better and younger looking women to be receptive to us.

Number 3 you have a large enough population base to supply such a demand a supply that is only a tiny percentage which therefore requires a large base.

Number 4 access to such women is not hindered by travel difficulties.

Number 5 in 1992 Colombia passed a law lowering the excise tax and regulatory restrictions for the emigration of a Colombian wife. There is now a spousal regulatory board in Colombia that must certify your Colombian fiancé as representing the highest feminine qualities of Colombian women. The purpose of the law is to improve the image of Colombia abroad through the demonstration of family harmony and civil obedience by newly arriving Colombians. The best thing about this law is it comes with a guarantee, if you are not satisfied with your first Colombian wife you get the second one for free.

[Nicks]

Christopher, (happens to be my sons name)

in my opinion the colombian girls are much more willing to leave colombia than any other country in the area, except maybe El Salvador and Nicaragua. Colombia has problems with geruillas, drugs, etc etc. Marrying a forigner is a good way to get out. I am in Panama, and panamanian girls have no problem marrying foreign guys(like me) but very few are willing to leave Panama. We also have a big imigration of colombians, both men and women, some good and some bad.Also, please correct me those who have been several times in colombia, the girls that are willing to go, and are intrested in forigners, do come from lower middle class, or low class. We are not talking ripe 22 yo, driving a brand new BMW, that her daddy the doctor/lawer bought her looking do get hitch with Mr White, and moving to the states or europe.

very few of the gentlmen in this and similar forums are willing to go expat, therefore they look at the country who has the pretties girls(colombia no hold barred) and what girls are most willing to move to the states, colombia).There for, you will find most agencys in Colombia.

I have an opposite problem, my wife wants to move to my country, sweden, but i dont want too. At least not if i dont get a very wellpaid job, and can keep my living standard i have here.

nicks