Playboy penthouse in Medellin

[Vagabond]

... in response to Re: Re: Calenas, posted by pablo on Dec 23, 2004

Thanks for the invitation. I'd love to hang out with another board member.  
We'll have to co-ordinate our trips to Medellin.  When's your next trip there?

[pablo]

... in response to Thanks for the invitation, sure, posted by Vagabond on Dec 23, 2004


I'm here now.  When is your next trip?  Say you weren't the pilot that I briefly spoke with a couple weeks ago at Lleras town or the blond haired guy I saw with Robert at Al Roja before that?

You can reach me on my email address listed on my profile.

Pablo

[Hoda]

... in response to Re: Calenas, posted by Vagabond on Dec 22, 2004


by men who know the deal...

Buh-Bye!!!

[Traveller]

... in response to Re: Calenas, posted by Vagabond on Dec 22, 2004

It's not negativity, it's accuracy. I've shot a lot of those models in my years in Cali for my websites and I too know that the vast majority are from Cali. Xiomara; Cali. Victoria: Cali. Johanna: Cali. Paula: Cali. Viviana: Cali. Etc. etc. You stated,"They are pictures of the typical beauty you will see any day of the week in Medellin." No, you'll see those beauties any day of the week in Cali.
If there are those types of women walking around Medellin, and I don't doubt there are, why not get photos of them and post the Piasas instead of the Calenas?
Like Pacino said, if the creators of CaliesCali and or the women who photos are being used on the site knew their photos were on PP, there would be some problems. That's not specualtion, that's fact.
Once again, this isn't about being negative, it's about clarification. The specific women whose photos are being used on PP are from Cali and NOT from Medellin. I think the creators of the PP website should be upfront about that with thier potential clients and get the 'ol camera out and start taking some examples of the Paisas in Medellin.
I mean, if I was a newbie and I picked out Xiomara's photo and said I want to meet her. What is PP going to say?
"Oh no, she isn't in our agency she is an EXAMPLE of the types of women in Medellin."
The client asks, "Can you ask the photographer to get me a hook up with her?"
"Er well no. Her photo was taken off of CaliesCali and she lives in Cali."
Now I know there are some real Hotties in Medellin. I just think that the site suppose to be representative of Medellin and the women featured on that site should be too.
Just my worthless and too long opinion.

[Vagabond]

... in response to Re: Re: Calenas, posted by Traveller on Dec 22, 2004

You guys are trying to play both sides of the fence.

First some of you (without evidence) attack PP for providing girls.  Then you say the examples of pretty Colombians is wrong because the guy can't meet that specific girl.  Which is it??

The PP site does not say the pictures are of Paisas, it say's it's the typical beauty you will see in Medellin, and this is absolutely true.  A more accurate example of how the conversation would go is this.. "Man, that picture of so and so is hot, where can I see a girl like that?"  The guy at PP would step out his door, lift up his arm and point "there, there, and there".  I think that's the only point they were trying to make by posting those photos on the site.  Perhaps when they have time, they will take some pictures of Paisas, but personally I think it would be a waist of their time... a pretty girl is a pretty girl.  You can see a girl just like the ones on the site any day of the week in Medellin, what's the use of going out and taking more pictures of girls just like you will see any day of the week in Medellin.  What they've done does the job perfectly.  If someone spent a bunch of time taking tons of pictures of Paisas and put them on the site, you wouldn't be able to tell which ones were from where anyway.  You act as though they put pictures of Japanese girls on there or something.

[Traveller]

... in response to You guys are playing both sides of the f..., posted by Vagabond on Dec 23, 2004

[This message has been edited by Traveller]

Your defense of this subject speaks volumes about yourself. The inaccuracy has been pointed out and should be a dead issue, but apparently your ego has been damaged and you find yourself defending an indefensible issue.
It has been established that those particular models are NOT from Medellin and they in fact live in Cali.
Those of us who have been going there or have lived in Colombia for years have pointed out we see and understand your side of it. But, we have also pointed out that if you are a first time visitor to Medellin or Cali or Colombia in general, those photos might be taken the wrong way. It might be percieved that you can meet those particular women in those photos.
You were the one who tried to be sly by stating that "many of those girls are from Medellin and had
gone to Cali for modeling work." Not realizing that there are a few people on this board who know many of those models because we have done work for CaliesCali, or the models worked for us, or we have worked with or know Andres. I know about 80% of those models that PP has featured and I can't say that any of them are from Medellin. I actually have model information bios and release forms signed by those particular models and I am pretty sure every model wrote Cali as Ciudad de Nacimento. Pacino has a few of the ones I don't and I am pretty sure it's the same thing.
As Hoda pointed out, you got caught. Big deal.
Also, if it isn't that a big deal about where those women come from, why has the website text been taken off each photo? Each one of those photos had www.caliescali.com embedded on each photo. Why are the photos edited not to include that text? Could it be argued that the creators of PP wanted people to believe that the women in the photos are indeed from Medellin? Why the deception?
Also, be specific. Who are "you guys"? Who's playing both sides of the fence? Who is "some of you"? I don't remember attacking anyone at PP for providing girls. So far, I have been in my own backyard about the possible confusion about not being able to meet the women in the photos on the PP website. I'm still in my lounger on my side of the fence with a blue drink and an umbrella stating that, "If the site is representative of Medellin, then the women posted on that website should also be representative of Medellin." I haven't even looked over the fence to see what is going on in that yard.
So, which is it? Or who is it that are playing both sides of the fence?
UGH! I hate writing! LOL!
Later Gators,
K

[Vagabond]

... in response to Re: You guys are playing both sides of t..., posted by Traveller on Dec 23, 2004

You have made some good points and I agree with some of them.  I think you will also understand my responces to the rest.

"It might be percieved that you can meet those particular women in those photos."

You're right, to avoid this possible misperception, they should put in big letters at the top of the page, "some examples of type of girls you will see"... oh wait, they do.
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"You were the one who tried to be sly by stating that "many of those girls are from Medellin and had
gone to Cali for modeling work."

I'm sorry that I was wong about this.  It is what I had been told my many people in Cali and Medellin.
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"if it isn't that a big deal about where those women come from, why has the website text been taken off each photo?"

If the purpose of posting the photos was to illustrate the type of beauty you would see if you visited Medellin, then it makes sence to take off the word cali.  I think the photos serve their purpose perfectly.  You could take any of those photos and show them to anyone in Cali or Medellin, and nobody (unless they knew the girl) would be able to tell you which city they were from.
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"who is it that are playing both sides of the fence?"

This was not in reference to you, but the other posters of this topic.  First they attacked PP for providing girls, then they complained that they could not meet the girls.  So which is it? Do you want them to provide girls or not?  Either way, nothing on their site seems to indicate they do, so questions answered.

[Hoda]

... in response to Re: Re: Calenas, posted by Traveller on Dec 22, 2004


My, my, my....you're getting a little PC in your old age my friend (lol).

New K:
"It's not negativity, it's accuracy"

Old K:
"You're lying Pal" or "It's obvious, you don't know these women or what you're talking about"

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!!!

[Traveller]

... in response to Your post are never "worthless or t..., posted by Hoda on Dec 23, 2004

Ah, you know, it's Christmas time. Then again, yeah I might be mellowing in my old age. Carrying around a camera these last few years changes you differently than carrying a rifle for over a decade. LOL!
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
K

[Malandro]

... in response to Re: Calenas, posted by Vagabond on Dec 22, 2004

I am at your service.

[Malandro]

... in response to Calenas, posted by Pacino on Dec 22, 2004

[This message has been edited by Malandro]

no doubt Medellin has pretty babes as does Cali.  this guy seems like he is just pandering to the ignorant gringo that doesn't know the difference.  

why actually take the time to take pics of Medellin girls when you can just cut and paste from caliescali

but if the guy needs a photographer to shoot Medellin girls in bikinis, I am more than willing to lend my services.

[Pete E]

... in response to A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous..., posted by Vagabond on Dec 22, 2004

Just pointing out the source of the photos,seemed like from a Cali source they would not be Medellin girls.

pete

[Vagabond]

... in response to Re: A little bit of knowledge is a dange..., posted by Pete E on Dec 22, 2004

OK, well now you know many are Medellin girls, and more importantly, excellent examples of the type of girls you will see in Medellin.  Regardless of all this agency business, Medellin is truely a city of sweet and beutiful girls.  Perhaps the highest concentration of any city I've been to.  And the year-round perfect weather is unbeatable.

[pablo]

... in response to Playboy penthouse in Medellin, posted by Pete E on Dec 22, 2004


Pete,

I noticed it too that CLC on their FAQ page had photos of Calenas listed as typical Paisas.  I guess it was easier to copy and paste these photos rather than going out on any day and taking pictures of women that are just as gorgeous living here.  Muy perezoso.  Maybe I should offer them my photography services.

[rj556]

... in response to Playboy penthouse in Medellin, posted by Pete E on Dec 22, 2004

Can you tell me any thing about Walter??/