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Author Topic: Makes you say........Hmmmmm  (Read 11337 times)
soltero
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« on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
I just want to throw something out there for you all to disect...I just got through talking to a gorgeous young calena who asked me to call her because she doesn't have an internet connection at her house. She sent me an email from school initially giving me her cell number. I told her that I wanted to send her a pic of me and she proceeded to tell me that she had a computer at home complete with a webcam, she just didn't have an internet connection...I am curious as to what (good or bad) any of you would assume just from this small tidbit of info alone...I don't want to say what I am assuming just yet, because I don't want to color any possible responses....
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gkdrummer
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by soltero on Oct 22, 2004

one of your misgivings seems to be that she has an "internet-ready" computer because of the web-cam.  FWIW, many companies today throw in a few peripherals with a new pc purchase.  Used to be mostly printers, but has now expanded to include web-cams as well as other stuff.
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soltero
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by gkdrummer on Oct 22, 2004

As hard as it is after my marriage from hell to a latina that I brought here, I am trying not to look for the "aha" in everything, but it isn't easy. You are right, the computer by itself isn't that big a deal, but when she mentioned the webcam, it made me think that maybe this might be a game to squeeze out a little spare change. I have had a few more conversations with her, and I am slowly starting to trust her more. I might bring it up in conversation to see if the webcam came with the computer or not, or I might just leave the whole issue alone unless she brings it up again. She hasn't asked me for any money so as long as that holds true, I'll see where it goes.
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YEP
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by soltero on Oct 23, 2004


Soltero ..... just ask her the obvious question ....

How can you afford a PC with your line of work

(if she doesn't work or didn't buy it herself)

Who has a job that alowed them to give her that PC or the money to buy it.

Sometimes a little strightforwardness ... can be helpfull.

And with the economical situation down there you could just play "stupid" as in you couldn't understand how she can afford a PC (I don't know how expensive a PC is in Colombia).

If she is (acting) sincere" about marriage/relationship that is a question you will have to ask. If you don't feel comftable about it is/will become your problem at some point.

I suggest that you create a good 1 to 1 situation and ask the ass out of your pants. Any women that can't answer questions that is important to you in a satisfactory manner. Dig deeper and find out the reason. If a "prospect" refuse/denies to answer depending on how far you're into the process .... be ready to drop her like a hot potato at any stage of the process (even after you lost your heart to her ..... if possible).

But with any relationship there's something that you could call the natural progress of it. So it will differ a lot when you get to the more "critical" questions.

" Don't push it ... Don't force it .... let it happen naturally" (some song say .....and they must have giving this a few thoughts before putting it on paper ;-)  )

If concerned about "faillure" nuture many flowers at the same time as many in here advice to. Make it a process for the "JOB" as your wife. Don't forget the human aspect of this.

But you might start reading here first:

http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/asian/messages/48133.html
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papi
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by soltero on Oct 22, 2004

it is very cheap to go to the internet cafe which are all over Colombia and also agree that she might be hinting at some money. in Colombia especially Cali, many are scammers and materialistic. if you want, you could invest say $20000 pesos via Western Union - about $8.00 and tell her to use it at the cafe. she could write you for hours on end with that cash. if she does not write you, you waisted the cost of a couple of beers in the states
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soltero
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by papi on Oct 22, 2004

Thanks, Papi. I was waiting to hear from you and also Pete E. Out of all the posters here, you appear to be the most savvy to the scammers, and Pete E is the most open minded to the positive. You two are my absolutes on the positive and negative and everyone else falls in between to round everything out. Thanks for the advice, as always it is very much appreciated.
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papi
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by soltero on Oct 22, 2004

many of the good girls also try to take advantage of gringos. i've seen so much BS in LA. they just dont seem to have the same sense of what we consider rude like cutting in line, asking for money with no intensions of paying it back, etc. I was out on a date a few days ago in Medellin with a young hottie and right in the middle of the movie she whips out her cell and makes a lengthy conversation during the flick...nobody in the theater seemed to care. I love the woman in LA but these good folks are on a different planet when it comes to manners!
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doombug
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by papi on Oct 22, 2004

The "cutting in line" is hilarious!  That was one of the first things I noticed while living in Mexico.  Nobody says anything when they jip each other.  That caused me to just remain hushed, even though inside I was achin' to speak up.

Doin' as the Romans do, I guess.
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Hoda
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by papi on Oct 22, 2004

in regards to your movie experience. I've been guilty of bombing a rude phone user with "pop-corn" in Cali. My primo was shocked & asked me, if that is acceptable behavior in the U.S. I told him, that normally a warning/request is flashed on the screen, telling folks to shut off their phones before the movie starts. Me bombing someone with "popcorn" is nothing compared to what really happens to someone who has the cajones to use their phone during a movie in the US. He wanted to know what happens to those who violate the rule. Depending on the movie & the crowd...

- The person will be told to "Shut the f-up"
- Ejected from the theatre.
- Have their phone taken away from them.
- Have their phone destroyed on the spot.
- All of the above.

Papi, a "good" girl/woman wouldn't ask for money in the first place. And yeah, the cutting in line by others, pissed me off, to the highest degree of pisstivity (lol). I showed my "gringo" once when this happened. I'm just glad I said it in spanish. No further problems after that...lol
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papi
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Approaching target....Open Bomb-bay door..., posted by Hoda on Oct 23, 2004

yea, it is a latin thing. go to flick in Miami and you will think you are inside a Cali phone cafe. ¡Increible! I told my date that it is agains't the law to talk on your cell in the States
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soltero
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by papi on Oct 22, 2004

My ex took advantage of me enough to last 10 lifetimes...but I let her, so I can't blame her. I believe that with the right (or wrong) kind of character, anyone who sees that they can use you will, especially a woman. Once they see that they can't, they usually will either fall in and be good to you or leave you alone and look for the next score if that was all they were interested in, but they all seem to want to test you at least once or twice just to see where your head is.  Thanks again for your posts because you definitely aren't viewing this process as only "pie in the sky" and you are keeping your eyes open.
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kented
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by soltero on Oct 22, 2004

There is absolutely nothing you can assume from that in my opinion.  There's not much incentive to lie about something so trivial.
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soltero
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Re: Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by kented on Oct 22, 2004

My ex wife lied about things so trivial that it was mind boggling. It was almost if she lied just for the satisfaction of misdirection. But I don't think this person is lying exactly. I am just trying to understand the whole having the cart without the horse mechanics. The computer didn't just magically appear, and the webcam is useless without the internet connection. Just curious and trying not to jump to conclusions. That is why I posted this.
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Irmao
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to Makes  you say........Hmmmmm, posted by soltero on Oct 22, 2004

web cam, and other type of computer related info.  you are doubting whether she is telling the truth correct??
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soltero
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »
... in response to ask here what type  computer it is, posted by Irmao on Oct 22, 2004

No, I am not doubting that she is telling the truth completely, just not the whole truth, but there are two possibly negative scenarios here. 1) She has already had or has a gringo novio who decided not to follow through for whatever reason, got her the computer and webcam to communicate with her and when it went sour, stopped paying for the internet conection. 2) In a round about way, she may have been trying to get me to "volunteer" to send cash to pay for the internet connection. Like Calipro said, I may be a little overly suspicious, but I am from the "get burned once and never again" club. I am on over active red flag alert, but I am just wondering if I have my sensors set to high. I don't want to be another Clay, the Don Quixote of Planet Love.
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