... in response to Walking through the bookstore...., posted by Hoda on Feb 12, 2002

Howard,
I don't think it was a book,but some womens libber NOW card carrier came up with the statement "a woman needs a man like a horse needs roller skates."You don't find that attitude in latin countries.I dated a couple of real womens libbers.I thought I was liberal socially but they were an attitude waiting to ambush me when I said or did anything they thought was politically incorrect.One lady I opened the car door for,and got this whole lecture on sexism.So I said OK then,open your own d--- door(jokingly) and that set her off too.She was a real nut case,had a huge issue with her father,who I guess was domineering and she took it out on every man she met.Actually extreme womens libbers are kind or rare now I think and not the main issue why we go south.
I think most of us go south because we can get the woman we want,usually meaning attractive and affectionate with a good attitude.There are many women available here who don't fit the attractive requirement.The ones who do seem in rare supply and can get a real attitude about it.They get very picky,which leaves most of us with a big "R" for reject stamped on our forhead.
What a difference a plane ticket makes.When I first went to Hawaii I said wow,summer is only 5 hours away.Then I found beautifull attractive women who were interested in me 12 hours away.(closer for most of you.)Wow,the woman I wanted was  only a plane ride away.
Now some guys can get caught up in a mind f--- saying this can't possibly be true and why is it true ect.The rest of us get the woman we want.
In life you either get what you want or you usually have  a long excuse why you didn't.I'll take the first.

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: Walking through the bookstore......, posted by Wayne on Feb 12, 2002

Wayne wrote:

 "I have nothing against mujeres americanas. It's just the ones I like, don't like me. The US is just not good for a guy's self confidence. It's like the girls are trying so hard to be cool, they won't even express any interest at all initially. The art of flirting is completely obsolete in the US. In Colombia it's still alive and it's still ok to show some interest in a girl. They expect it. In the US, we are so afraid of rejection, many of us have given up."
***
  I thought things were bad in the U.S. They seem to be even worse in Spain. It was quite a culture shock to come here and be treated like I was invisible or something. I´ll write at some length on this soon, my summing up of life in Spain on my way out, but in over a year and a half here I´ve met maybe three españolas I would consider to be sweet, mature, etc. One was plain looking, one was sort of cute, one was really cute. How to choose, how to choose...~sarcasm~.
 Being here has been kind of brutal psychologically, and has been made worse by reading about you guys playing in the candy store, while I´ve been having the opposite experience. But as Napoleon Hill wrote, "every failure or setback brings with it the seed of an equivalent or greater benefit". Like a few weeks ago, when I was opening a can of tuna over the sink and squirted oil on my favorite sweatshirt, ruining it. So I went out shopping for another, wandered into a store, and was befriended by the Brazilian salesclerk, who is now helping me with my upcoming move to Brazil. I´m sure that being in Brazil will be a breath of fresh air psychologically, and there will be plenty of "equivalent or greater benefits" of the female variety there :-)!

  Apropos of the thread about paella a while back, I just made my first perfect batch yesterday. Once I´ve done it a few more times, I´ll describe to you guys how to make it they way they do here. Mmmm.

  Teo

... in response to Same here Wayne...., posted by Hoda on Feb 12, 2002

I think (but not sure) that it was Larry S. who said it.

The most beatiful woman in the world is the one who's eyes light up when she sees YOU walk into the room.

... in response to Walking through the bookstore...., posted by Hoda on Feb 12, 2002

I think it is important to distinguish between the American slime media that produced the books on your book list and American women.  The roaches that write these books have only one motivation - to make a buck.  Just flip the dial on your cable TV and ask yourself if what you see isn't always predominately negative.  By pushing people's hot buttons, the media gets them to stay tuned and interested and the subsequent high ratings bring in a steady cash flow.  There is always going to be antagonism between the sexes, but I don't see any shortage of people coupling up.  American men are still popular with American women.  I choose to be neutral about American women.  The reason is that if you make American women out to be all bad, then by the same psychology you then tend to make somebody else, such as Colombian women, be all good.  This sets you up to be taken by a clever scamasita who quickly picks up on your psychology of extremes and uses it to exploit you.  Therefore, my position is that women are women regardless of where they live.  I prefer to keep my eyes open.

... in response to Walking through the bookstore...., posted by Hoda on Feb 12, 2002

I love this. Two of the titles you mention:

- "The Hell With Love"
- "Everything I Know About Dating I Learned in Business School"

   Then there are critics like our hairy-legged, Birkenstock-clad, gamey and dentition-challenged friend Nicole, who maintain that women in LA, etc. are just looking for $ and a green card:

  "I mean, we all know that the girls offering themselves up through this system are not looking for love, they see it as a means to escape a life of poverty[...] he told me of how she had joined an agency, and how she was willing to sacrifice her dignity in search of a better economic future. Apparantly a lot of girls she knew had done it. It’s possible to argue that some girls simply prefer American men but let’s face it, mail-order brides don’t come from Western Europe, Canada, Australia etc - most of them come from the worlds poorest countries, and are usually the poorest people within them."

  Assuming the women in underdeveloped countries are overly motivated by necessity, what does that say about women in prosperous countries who are motivated by outright avarice?
 

... in response to I don't see the reason for all the hate ..., posted by JUAN on Feb 12, 2002

I know many wonderful American women. My late mother; her friends who treat me like their own son; friends, neighbors, etc...I was just dishing it out on Nicole, and on women who read books with titles like "To Hell With Love" and "Everything I Know About Dating I Learned In Business School".

... in response to I don't see the reason for all the hate ..., posted by JUAN on Feb 12, 2002

Neither I, nor Bueller said "All" american women. But if you want to look for equal opportunity finger pointing, visit some of the "talking head" shows. THEN, come back here & report to us, how often "Good American" Men are discussed! Women are exercising options that were once denied them, well so are a few men. I've remain on speaking terms with the "ex's" in my life. They're happy for me.

We make decisions on how to improve our lovelife based on our experiences, good & bad. The slant here & on the other forums here, is what guys "couldn't" find & what they "didn't" want to put up with anymore. It's rare, that there is only one party, that is totally innocent when a relationship goes bad. Women have their venues to talk & sometimes (heaven forbid) vent & we have ours.

DAYYUM....We don't even have "ONE" show that represents the dozen or so, that women have....LMAO!