Re: black hispanic women

[Aaron]

Hey Booty Dance,

For one, yes there are many black Hispanic women in Colombia. Many people don't realize that Latin America, particularly the countries of Cuba, Panama, DR, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Peru, Honduras, Uraguay, Beliz, even some in Guatamala. These countries have a large population of people of African descent, or have African blood due to race mixing. However, the blacks of Costa Rica, that you had mentioned are originally from Jamaica. They migrated to Costa Rica during the early part of the century to work on the banana plantations. In fact, the population of blacks within Latin America and the Caribbean collectively far exceeds the population in the USA, and the African influence in the Latin American culture is strong and easily apparent, more so than the USA. Now, as for your comment about the physical features of these women. Hispanic women, which are not the same as women from Brazil with a Portugues ethnic background. Hispanic women are very conservative. And to make comments such as "Booty Dance" in the presence of these women would defintly lead you to failure. Hispanic women would find that dis-tasteful. Now as for Brazilian women, it is a different story. The culture of Brazil is more sexually open... some say a little hedonistic. In some cases I agree with that, but I also realize that not all Brazilian women are that way. Also, I would like to caution you about searching for a woman in Brazil. Many of my male friends from Latin America tell me that it is a known fact that Brazilian women are very beautiful and sensual, but because of the sexual freedom... it can be dangerous for single men to travel to Rio and other tourist places because those places are filled with prostitution, disease, and drug use. Many men travel there for sexual escapades, which is sad. Also, my friends also warned me about another issue. Rio has a high concentration of transexual men, which were men that crossed gender to become women. My friends told me, and I have also noticed this on some internet sites about Rio, that there are some unbelievably beautiful transexuals. Usually, these men undergo these operations to obtain features that are not seen with regular natural women. So these men otain features that make them appear extremely attractive, and because of ignorance and temptation, many heterosexual men become involved with these transexuals without even realizing it. So, because of this, I made the promise to myself of never to go to Rio alone. I'll either go with a group of friends, girlfriend, or wife and family.  

Now, about my comment on Brazilian women being different from Hispanic women. Both Brazilian and Hispanic women are considered Latinas because the languages that they speak are Latin based languages (Portugese and Spanish, respectively). However, their ethnic backgrounds are different. Hispanics are people that have an ethnic background orginiating from, or predominately influenced by Spain. Brazilians have a ethnic background influenced by Portugal, so they are not Hispanics.  

Try to learn as much as you can about the culture and country of the types of women you will pursue. This will help you avoid costly mistakes.

Aaron

[yc]

... in response to Re: black hispanic women, posted by Aaron on Jul 4, 2001

Hi Aaron,

I've been trying to get some indepth info regarding brazilian women.  I posted a messege several days ago, but got no response.  You appear to be very knowledgable and have had some experience in Brazil.  Could you please review my post and give me your most humble opinion.  Anybody else who has visited Brazil input is welcome.

"Is their anyone out there who has or had any experiences with Brazilian females?  What are Brazilian females like...values, morals etc.  Base on nothing I've found on this forum, Brazil seems to have been painted as a place of festivals, Carnival, wild parties and being very laid back... in essence, not a good place to look if you are serious about finding a wife.  In general, would a Brazilian female make a good wife and foster a strong family? ..."

I understand this post is somewhat broad and general in nature.  I guess what I am looking for is something more statistical.  Example... the reason we all are looking to LA for wives is that, statistically speaking, we believe our chances is much greater at finding that ideal soul mate there than in our very own country.  Would this statement hold true for Brazil?

yc

[bret]

... in response to Brazilian women!!! ... Aaron, posted by yc on Jul 5, 2001

i have not been to brazil either, but i did briefly date a brazilian flight attendant here in south florida. while this by no means makes me an expert on the country, we did have several conversations about her country and about how the culture compares to other south american countries.

she told me that it is a more sexually expressive/open culture, as has been mentioned before (music, dance, carnival, etc.) but one differnce between columbianas and brazilianas is that they are far less likely to leave in order to marry a north american man. (her words, not mine!)

they are deeply patriotic and love their country. (i'm not saying columbianas don't, cool?). but maybe there is a reason that few m.o.b. agencies exist in brazil compared to columbia. they are not suffering from a 30 years war either, and the economy is o.k., mas o menos, at the moment. maybe a lot of lovely brazilian ladies just don't think about leaving/marring an american man for love and  to improve their lives.

someone on this board once said "where would you rather live, brazil or detroit"?, and he had a good point. (they hate the cold, can't show any skin)..also, you would have to learn portugese, every bit as easy as spanish but spoken much less here in the u.s., thus fewer opportunities to learn and practice.

but you never know! anything can happen. but these are just a few things i have learned in l.a. and from my brazilian friend.

also, lots of prostution exists, but we have that very same social ill right here in the good ole u.s.a. don't let this shallow transvestite talk make any impression on you. if some one can't tell the difference between a lovely lady and a mutilated female impersonator, well that's their problem.

[Aaron]

... in response to Brazilian women!!! ... Aaron, posted by yc on Jul 5, 2001

Basically,

I have never been to Brazil. So I cannot really give you indepth information. I can only tell you what others (Latin American men) have told me about Brazil.

1.) Brazil as a country is very beautiful and exotic.

2.) The women are very beautiful, exotic, and sensual.

3.) Brazil is somewhat sexually open, more so than  
Colombia. I would like to make this point. Although Colombianas are sensual and sometimes dress and act provacative, they are really conservative women. They learnered their appeal from being raised in a country/culture where physical attractiveness for women is considered an asset, not a draw-back. So don't think when you go to Colombia that you are going to find a woman to jump in the bed with you. This is considered a lack of self-respect by decent Colombianos. I really appreciate this attitude.  

4.) Now, as I said before, Rio and possibly other places have an unusually high concentration of transexual men that appear to be extremely beautiful women. My latin friends told me that about 3 years ago, but now I'm just starting to find more and more of this on the web. Also, if your not aware, many actors in the porn industry travel to Brazil for sexual escapades. They take their buddies for parties and whatever. Because of the sexual openness and widespread poverty, they can find many beautiful girls to fool around with. But, all this does is spread disease.

If you meet a girl from Brazil, which there is nothing wrong with, becareful and take your time to get to know the character of the person to  see if she will be a good fit for you. I have also heard that the differences between the cultures of Brazil and USA are allot greater than between many other countries in Latin America and USA. However, I have never been to Brazil, so I cannot fully explain to you the differences.

Aaron

[yc]

... in response to Re: Brazilian women!!! ... Aaron, posted by Aaron on Jul 5, 2001

Thanks Aaron,

Sounds like good common sense.  I will surely take it to heart.  As you have stated, and I have heard from various sources, this sexual openness is quite prevalant in Rio.  However, I was wondering--what about some of the other cities in Brazil?  I do recall that there are cities and towns in Brazil where things tend to be more reserve.  Can any of your friends confirm this?

[yc]

... in response to Re: black hispanic women, posted by Aaron on Jul 4, 2001

Hi Aaron,

I've been trying to get some indepth info regarding  brazilian women.  I posted a messege several days ago, but got no response.  You appear to be very knowledgable and have had some experience in Brazil.  Could you please review my post and give me your most humble opinion.  Anybody else who has visited Brazil input is welcome.

"Is their anyone out there who has or had any experiences with Brazilian females?  What are Brazilian females like...values, morals etc.  Base on nothing I've found on this forum, Brazil seems to have been painted as a place of festivals, Carnival, wild parties and being very laid back... in essence, not a good place to look if you are serious about finding a wife.  In general, would a Brazilian female make a good wife and foster a strong family? ..."

yc

[Bueller]

... in response to Re: black hispanic women, posted by Aaron on Jul 4, 2001

For being adjacent to each other, Spain and Portugal are surprisingly dissimilar, including ethnically. The people definitely look different, and tend to have softer, kinder personalities than Castilians (west/northwest of Madrid, people famous in Spain for being pretty aloof). The women are definitely not as pretty as Españolas, but are very nice in general. Haven´t been to Brazil yet, but I doubt there is much similarity at all in culture. The languages split off quite a while back, most likely the cultures as well.

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: black hispanic women, posted by Aaron on Jul 4, 2001

Historian,

Very good historical facts, espcially about the different languages of Spain, which I am familiar with.Unfortunately, I do not have the time right now to investigate what you are saying, but for now I will take your word for it. You definitely know allot about Brazil. Since you know so much about Brazil, why don't you travel there?

As for the definition of what constitutes Hispanic, you can dispute that with all the Hispanics here in the USA and in Latin America. I'm just telling you what they have explained to me.

Also, I'm just saying this to you so you can be safe. If you are looking for "Booty Dancers," you can find that. But, if you are looking for a decent woman for a wife, you can find that too. It's only up to you.

No Argument Intended,
Aaron

[bret]

... in response to Re: thank you for the well written post, posted by Aaron on Jul 4, 2001

how about a decent woman for a wife and a "booty dancer", all rolled up into one!

most, if not all latin ladies love to "sheik yer booty"!!!

they love to cut loose and get down on the dance floor, and it in no way is a negative reflection of their morality or what type of wife they might make. it just means they love to dance and are in touch with their cultural roots.

hey, feel the rhythm...let go...join the ladies on the dance floor..........uhhh, no? well, how about some salsa lessons then. every penny spent on lessons is worth its weight in gold, 'cause booty shaki'n is the best way to meet women in l.a.

hey, when in rome...........well, you get the point.

no argument intended!

bret

[Aaron]

... in response to booty shakers are good, posted by bret on Jul 4, 2001

Bret,

By the way, I dance excellent Salsa...
Also, there are many ways to dance Salsa...
And one thing is, I never had to take lessons...
I guess it's that "natural rhythm" I have...

Take Care,
Aaron

[Red Clay]

... in response to By The Way, posted by Aaron on Jul 4, 2001

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[Aaron]

... in response to booty shakers are good, posted by bret on Jul 4, 2001

Hey Bret,

I'm down with that!!!!! I like booty shakers too. But only the one that I marry.

I came off like that originally because I want to try and discourge men who are looking for a sexual escapade. This can really ruin the images of men who go to agencies, and prevent decent women from being members of agencies. Then, guys that are looking for a nice Latina for marriage wont have anywhere to go.  

Shake That Azz!!!! (This is a benefit of Ebonics when using a board that screens for vulgarity)

Aaron

[Houndog]

... in response to Re: black hispanic women, posted by Aaron on Jul 4, 2001

I think religion and original heritage also plays into the mix of ethinicity or what could be called culture.

I looked up a few facts perhaps of interest. Definitions and dates or word origin provided by Merriam Websters;

His*pan*ic  (adjective)

[Latin hispanicus, from Iberian Peninsula, Spain]

First appeared circa 1889

: of, relating to, or being a person of LA descent, living in the US; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or PR origin

-- Hispanic (noun)

pre-His*pan*ic

First appeared 1919

 :of relating to, or being of the time prior to Spanish conquests in the western hemisphere

Links on Spain...from World Book Encyclopedia

http://search.aolsvc.worldbook.aol.com/wbol/wbSearch/na/se/co?st1=spain

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: thank you for the well written post, posted by Houndog on Jul 4, 2001

Mangu,

In fact, Hispanics do use this term to refer to themselves.
You may not believe so, but they do. For all those that are close to Hispanic people, have you ever heard of the slogan "Hispanic Heritage Month?" Which is a designated month in the USA to celebrate Hispanic Heritage. And yes, Hispanics refer to themselves as Latinos because their mother language is Latin based. Another point is this, Italians and Portugese are also considered Latinos because their mother language is Latin based. However, Italians and Portugese are not Hispanics. Basically, it is really common sense if you think about it.

It's good that you are relying on geographical and historical facts to help you learn, but you have to include social and political events that have lead to these categorizations. Also, I don't believe that Hispanic or Latino are inherently derogoratory.

Aaron

[Houndog]

... in response to Re: thank you for the well written post, posted by Houndog on Jul 4, 2001

Well not exactly...Portugal is not mentioned at all. I also included the link on Spain because of the historical significance of the ommision of Portugal from Spanish cultures and sub-cultures. Along with the significance of The Spanish Inqusition...once again having nothing to do with Portugal. The importance of these distinctions is that a Duality of cultures developed, not a Singularity of cultures. Out of time. But think about it..perhaps you will see why present differences and distinctions exist.

HD