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stefang
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« on: October 01, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

Here is an article about our brains and it says feminists STEP OFF you cannot change us.


http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20031001115909990004&_mpc=news%2e6

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stefang
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to article about men, posted by stefang on Oct 1, 2003

Here is the article


"Male Brain Science Gives Clue to Nagging Questions
Turns Out It's Not Laziness, Sexism or Pigheadedness, It's Just Biological
By Jill Serjeant, Reuters

LOS ANGELES (Oct. 1) - It's the universal question on many women's lips. "What could he be thinking?" she shrieks, or sighs or sulks at her husband, boyfriend or son.

What is it with men and cars? Why doesn't he notice how much housework needs to be done? Why does he need to keep a grip on the remote control? And the most bewildering one of all -- why won't he just talk to me?

The answers, says social philosopher and author Michael Gurian, lie not in laziness, sexism or sheer pigheadedness but in profound differences between the male and female brain -- and scientists now have the technology to prove it.

 
"As a culture, we've made profound mistakes in the last few decades by assuming that men were unnecessary."
-Michael Gurian, author  
 
"What Could He Be Thinking? How a Man's Mind Really Works," combines two decades of neurobiological research with anecdotes from everyday life and Gurian's experience as a family therapist to present a new vision of the male psyche.

It's a vision that Gurian hopes will help promote a better understanding of men and reverse what he sees as the dangerous assumption born of the past 40 years of radical feminism that men have simply become redundant.

"As a culture, we've made profound mistakes in the last few decades by assuming that men were unnecessary. Many people have even gone so far as to negate or dismiss what is at the core of a man," Gurian writes.

Gurian, author of the 1996 groundbreaking book "The Wonder of Boys" and its follow-up "The Wonder of Girls," is no anti-feminist. He is married with two daughters, and his book mines the field of brain science to help improve relations between couples.

Culture plays a part, but Gurian argues that biology matters much more than previously realized.

"The science has been crucial. Wherever I go, I start by showing PET scans and people can see for themselves the differences between the male and female brain. I think that alters life and marriages," Gurian told Reuters.

THE SCIENCE PART

Such are the advances in technology and understanding that PET radioactive-imaging and MRI magnetic-imaging scans can now show whether a man and a woman are truly in love by measuring the amount of activity in the cingulate gyrus, an emotion center in the brain, Gurian says.

Like a guide through a secret forest, his book leads the nonscientist through the complex world of brain science and relates it to some of the most frustrating sources of conflict between men and women in long-term relationships.

The male brain secretes less of the powerful primary bonding chemical oxytocin and less of the calming chemical serotonin than the female brain.

So while women find emotional conversations a good way to chill out at the end of the day, the tired male brain needs to zone out all that touchy-feely chatter in order to relax -- which is why he wants the remote control to zap through "mindless" sport or action movies.

His brain takes in less sensory detail than a woman's, so he doesn't see or even feel the dust and household mess in the same way. Anyhow, the male brain attaches less personal identity to the inside of a home and more to the workplace or the yard -- which is why he doesn't get worked up about housework.

Male hormones such as testosterone and vasopressin set the male brain up to seek competitive, hierarchical groups in its constant quest to prove self-worth and identity. That is why men, paradoxically (from a hormonally altered new mother's point of view), become even more workaholic once they have kids, to whom they must also prove their worth.

BACK TO NATURE

Gurian says his book is aimed mainly at women. "Men get this already. They are living this brain but they don't have the conscious language to explain it. Women are not living it.

"If they are relating to a man, I hope they will be touched, informed and entertained and will have a new vision of the way they can make their relationship work.

"I beg people to go back to nature, look at the PET scans, look at the brain differences and see if it makes sense."

If it does, the consequences are profound for a generation of "liberated" women brought up to believe it is men who have to change, and men who must respond to a female way of relating in order for marriage to succeed.

Gurian says men can learn new skills and alter their behavior but they will not be able to meet all of women's expectations.

"Popular culture focuses so much on trying to get people closer. Most people believe that marriages break up because men and women are not close enough. But what I am learning about the brain leads to the idea of intimate separateness, in which the brain seeks less intimacy at times," Gurian said.

"People want to love each other. If we can learn who we might be -- not what IS he thinking, but what COULD he be thinking -- then I am optimistic."


10/01/03 11:57 ET"

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Jeff S
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: article about men, posted by stefang on Oct 2, 2003

... the book "Why Men Don't Listen and Women Can't Read Maps" by Allan and Barbara Pease.

http://www.andrewj.com/books/review.asp?book=pease

A great read. Actually my wife and daughter were reading it in Japanese and laughing so hard, I had to run out and buy it in English.

- Jeff

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stefang
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Sounds a lot like..., posted by Jeff S on Oct 2, 2003

Jeff what is funny is everytime a book like this comes out men buy it to give to their girlfriends and wives. Then they say look dear you see I told you it's all genetics that is why I am how I am. Now get me a beer and can you change the batteries, the remote isn't working anymore.
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Jeff S
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Sounds a lot like..., posted by stefang on Oct 2, 2003

They understand that men and women are different - not interchangeable. Not one better or worse, just different and complimentary to each other, each completing the other - yin yang, like day and night, hot and cold, physical and spiritual. Viva la difference.

- Jeff

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Matt
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to article about men, posted by stefang on Oct 1, 2003

Hi Stefang-I don't have AOL so I can't access this article.
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Humabdos
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to I don't have AOL, posted by Matt on Oct 1, 2003

Why would you need AOL to look at the New York Post?
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Ray
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: I don't have AOL, posted by Humabdos on Oct 2, 2003

Hum,

Give us your AOL screenname & password so we can all read the article...

I can't access either.

Ray

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Matt
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2003, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: I don't have AOL, posted by Humabdos on Oct 2, 2003

Hi Hum,

It's Stefang's article that I can't access. The link reads that I have to have an aol password to read the article about men. I was just curious what the article reads.

Good day!

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