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Author Topic: An interesting perspective on the MOB biz  (Read 2573 times)
jrm
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« on: April 29, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

Dating, sex, and marriage advice
for western men seeking Russian women        


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Written by Olesya Pomazan
Translated by Paul Voytinsky aka Uncle Pasha

This little notee was written around 1999-2000, when we started to getting regular inquiries from marriage-minded men. Now, in 2003, it still seems to apply, and I'm posting it with no major revisions.

It is no secret that many come to Russia with hopes ranging from spicing up their sex lives to bringing home an "ideal wife" - someone warm, caring, feminine, and family-oriented. In our estimate one-third to one-half of independent travellers (i.e. non-package tour, non-business) to this part of the world come here with sex, love or marriage in mind. Many find it - or think that they did.

While our position on what I'll broadly call "dating" tends to be on the sceptical side, we recognize and accept that many of our guests come to Russia with that objective in mind. As a sociologist, I understand some of the reasons that make successful dating difficult for many North Americans and West Europeans. These include gender disbalance, flux and transition of social values and norms, and all-encompassing fragmentation and alienation so typical of modern societies that forces men to look at women of "traditional" cultures. At the same time one needs to be realistic about trans-cultural relations and, in particular, those between North American men and Russian women...

Despite our reservations, our duty is not to moralize but to respect the plans and interests of our guests, and to assist them with deed and advice. Thus this article.

Being consultants, we'll start with advice. Being lazy, we'll give our advice in a condensed bullet-point form. Sapienti sat. Others will have to learn from their own mistakes.

Don'ts

Despite lose morals and cheap prostitutes, Russia is not a good place for sex tourism. Unless, of course, you are looking for a way to quickly and uncreatively part with your money and pick up something embarrassing if not downright nasty.

Please pardon me for prejudice and political incorrectness. Marriage minded men should stay away from small town Russia. The gap in culture, expectations, values, and lifestyle between a professional North American, who you presumably are, and a small-town girl looking for someone to take her away from her troubles is way too wide for any meaningful communication, let alone living a life together. Concentrate on Moscow, St. Petersburg and a few other major cities, and confine your search to professional self-supporting women who speak English.

Russia is a "divorce culture". That is, there is a whole population of women who consider marriage and subsequent divorce as an instrument for "getting ahead in life". Do you really want to play the role of a rich foreigner, to bring home a woman who will dump you as soon as she gets the landed immigrant status, and then support her life on welfare with your taxes? Be responsible towards both yourself and your country.

Avoid dating agencies that offer catalogues of pretty faces. This approach automatically puts you in the position of a client picking up a piece of meat off the rack. A convenient setup, but not the one likely to lead to a healthy relationship.

Don't expect anyone to do the job for you while you just fly in and out with your trophy.  

Avoid the "rich foreigner" image.

Do not rush into binding decisions.

Do not let yourself be a duped. Stories are available on request.

Do's

Spend time in Russia. Socialize. Get a job, which is quite easy if you know English and have minimal teaching skills - there are plenty of vacancies in language schools.. Let a circle of acquaintances form naturally. With some luck you will find the right woman.

Do be ready for linguistic and cultural challenges. Learn Russian well enough to understand what is happening around you.

My own observations as well as numerous sociological statistics indicate that you will probably be better off looking for a mate closer to home. If, however, you still decide to come to Russia in your search for love, romance or marital  bliss, Uncle Pasha's CONSULTANTS & FACILITATORS and I personally will assist you in making the best out of your plans.


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Globetrotter
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to An interesting perspective on the MOB bi..., posted by jrm on Apr 29, 2004

And a very good article it is, and what I would consider a realistic approach.  Thanks for sharing.

So what does it say?  No magic bullet, no easy way, and AM are in much more danger than if we were looking closer to home, for so many reasons.  Many happily married guys will say it's all great.  Wonderful, they are probably the 50% that would have succeeded anywhere.

The most glaring example of what not to do is our very own "Romanchko" who is a guy pushing 70 about to marry a 28 year old.  He tells of how he has had his "premarital honeymoon" as if he has just found out that there is another use for Viagra, instead of just preventing one from rolling off the bed at night!  Wow, he actually got laid!  I can't believe he is going through with this, and will be surprised if he's not found dead for his social security check.  He certainly must be one gullible, lonely guy.  His bio seems impressive, but he must have a touch of Dimentia, or he's pissed out his last living brain cell.  Another scenario....those who can, do, those who can't, teach!

She will do well.  I think she will live near Bradley U, so she will get to meet all the college upperclassmen as potential screws while taking ESL classes, while he shops for "depends" and greases the wheelchair bearings.  And just think, when she is 38 and in her sexual prime, he will be 78, and 60 years past his!

Romanchko, Romanchko, think long and hard....(bad phraseogology) but think again.  Why not look for a nice 22 year old grad student who needs some financial help, rent her a room in your house, give her a discount for sex and pushing the wheelchair, and have it both ways without any legal problems.  Or, if you still must have the Ruskaya, don't marry......but adopt!!!

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cherokee
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: An interesting perspective on the MO..., posted by Globetrotter on Apr 29, 2004

Now that's what i call speaking your mind! Sad but most likely true.
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tbirdjoy
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: An interesting perspective on the MO..., posted by Globetrotter on Apr 29, 2004

Very funny read but sadly so very true for any man foolish enough to marry someone with 20 plus years on the woman.  Of all the friends I had who married RW women 25 years younger not a single marriage lasted more than 3.  As an HR director at a college I can tell you that for the most part college professors think they are smarter and know more than anyone else, Romanchko probably not being an exception.  Hopefully he'll be able to prove of skeptics wrong, but I don't think the odds favor any one who marries someone 30 years their junior.

Mark

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