Men Take Moscow Audience Hostage

[Lynn]

... in response to Media Control . . ., posted by Dan on Oct 25, 2002

......I agree that without a free press it could and would be much worse. The point I was trying to make is that more often than not the reporting is "cooked" before serving it to the people or sheeple, which ever class one might find himself in. I do not have documentation to back it up in my hands, but as I understand it there are fewer than 30 independantly owned major newspapers in the US, down from in excess of 1,500 or so about 40 years ago. Some say that that is the results of the economy, maybe to a certain extent or is "crowd control", but if you pay attention to what they report----almost all are the same save for variations in presentation to circumvent obvious plagiarism, or is that the definition you would use when different divisions of one company say the same thing?

Do you think that C-span and CNN are not affected by a phone call from the powers that be not to cover or to suppress to a minimum coverage of certain topics? Several things come to mind for me, things that those in denial don't want to talk about or the government doesn't want exposed.

I can't help but think of what we were told as youths about Russia hating us as a people and they were told that we hated them. ??

got to quit whistling Dixie all the time,

        Lynn

[Zink]

... in response to Re: Re: It's kinda like the North and th..., posted by Lynn on Oct 24, 2002

That could be interesting. A politician who can think rationally and doesn't believe that might is right! I don't want to get into politcs here, but my family understands a few things about US treaties. We remember places like Wounded Knee.

But what caught my eye was your talking about the resurgence of Ukranian nationalism. Here's what I've seen in the immigrant families that came to my area. There are a lot of Eastern European people around here. Most arrived in between World War 1 and 2. The Ukranians have really hung on to their culture. They're Canadian now, but they are still very much Ukranian. They are very proud of their heritage and they have a lot cultural events and celebrations.

The Russians on the other hand have just faded into the woodwork. They are here but other than their last names they aren't any different from the rest of us. Certain German groups that lived in Russia and Ukraine as settlers are the only other ones that I know of that have such a strong sense of their heritage and past. This is in my area. I do know that there are strong Russian enclaves in cities like Toronto. But those are mostly newcomers.

[Lynn]

... in response to You're going into politics?, posted by Zink on Oct 24, 2002

......or in any dealings with the government. Keep this in mind. This is a excerpt from the Supreme Court decision FEDERAL CROP INSURANCE CORP. V. A.A. MERRILL, 332 U.S. 380 Note  that the Court held in that case that:

   "Anyone entering into a arrangement with the government takes a risk of having accurately ascertained that he who purports to act for the government stays within the bounds of his authority, even though the agent himself may be unaware of the limitations upon his authority"

Even though this decision came long after "Wounded Knee', I am sure the same mentality existed then and was used to allow the government to wield it's mighty sword and ride roughshod over those it dealt with no matter what the law says. We need to make them accountable.

You have got to respect any people who try to maintain their heritage.

[tfcrew]

... in response to Re: It's kinda like the North and the So..., posted by wsbill on Oct 24, 2002

At least that's how I see it.

[Lynn]

... in response to More like Russia's "Palistine"..., posted by tfcrew on Oct 24, 2002

Do you ever wonder just how things got to be where they are now in that area? Ever hear of Benjamin Freedman's speach given in 1961? I found that to be interesting reading in regards to Palistine, although there has been some misuse of the piece by some fringe organizations. There are a few sites which present the text in a straightforward textual manner.