Looks like you're both right

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: Re: Attack???, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 15, 2002

So instead of just simply saying that yes, it really isn't very cool to take pot shots at a guy who cannot be here to defend himself, you simply justify it and continue..  What the helll happened to you Mark?

You and I both know that Jack has helped a lot of guys here in their quests.. Is he perfect?  No, but I do think he is honest.  Let me reiterate, I just think you are a being a jerk for attacking him when he is not here to reply, it's as simple as that and I would say the same to someone attacking you if YOU were not here to reply..

And you can hardly hold Mark H. up as an example Mark, he went to great extremes to taunt Jack, at least that is how I saw it..

As far as others being attacked after they were banned, I have not seen it done so I cannot comment on that.  I only know that I do not feel it is right.

And I guess at this point I would expect you to take another cheap shot to defend your views by bringing in my "shot at Ken's wife" comment..  That is something that I publicly apologized to him for Mark.  How long should I expect you to bring that up after making a public apology?  I believe this marks a new low for you Mark.  At least I know when to apologize for something.  You have never ONCE apologized for all the misquotes and taking things out of context with peoples comments here..  
And this after my having saved you a few hundred dollars on your flat in Kiev.. I guess I should be a little more careful next time in who I attempt to help..

Why can't you once just admit that for the past few weeks (ever since you got back from Kiev), you have just been out of control here?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Attack???, posted by Oscar on Oct 15, 2002

Actually, it has nothing to do with my trip to Kiev. I explained my post, and I am done explaining it. No, I didn't apologize for the simple reason that I don't feel I did anything wrong.

I don't expect you, Dan, LP, or Barry M to agree with me. You are all "friends" of Jack, and you will see it your way.

So be it.

I am done on this topic.

I will say this though:

I missed your public apology to Ken's wife. I am sorry about that.

If you did apologized, then I will let it drop.

Anyone can say something on here that they didn't mean. But I really don't remember the apology... I will take your word for it though and stop bringing it up...

[LP]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Attack???, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 15, 2002

...The problem with the post wasn't the content, it was beating on the guy when he wasn't able to respond (the true sign of a coward btw), as Oscar pointed out. Fwiw, I have never met Jack, I have never spoken to him in person, and I have never utilized any of his services.

I have emailed him a time or two, the most involved time was while doing *you* a favor. Seems he didn't pass it on, no wonder your clueless.

[KenC]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Attack???, posted by Oscar on Oct 15, 2002

Oscar,
I see nothing wrong with Mark's reply to DonP's post.  Don gave his opinion and Mark gave his.  They were different, so what?  I see no "attack", just a different point of view.  If Mark is guilty of anything, so is DonP.  They are only guilty of having an opinion.  Don't make such a big deal out of nothing.  It IS a forum to express your opinions (along with an occasional fact or two).  Chill - EVERYONE.
KenC

[MarkInTx]

... in response to nothing wrong with Mark's post, posted by KenC on Oct 15, 2002

I use a couple people on here as a barometer... You and the Good Doctor are two of them, because you both have proven to be very reasonable.

I appreciate the comments...

And, as I said above... I am done on this thread.

(BTW, no hard feelings DonP... you are certainly entitled to your opinions, too...)

[KenC]

... in response to Thanks Ken, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 15, 2002

Mark,
I am not "on your side" for the sake of being "on your side".  Oscar can debate your opinion as much as he wants, but he cannot debate your right to have your opinion.  I could see his point (a little) if you had started the thread with a negative post on Jack, but you responded to a post that was in favor of Jack.  
KenC

[MarkInTx]

... in response to better read my post above first, posted by KenC on Oct 15, 2002

I'm not asking you to agree with me

[LP]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Attack???, posted by Oscar on Oct 15, 2002

...ther are times you be a weenie Oscar....OK, me too. But 98% of us get over it and realize the error.

This simply isn't the case here. You'll never get this guy to change his behavior, his posting history shows time and again his extraordinary capacity to blind himself. A perfect example is how he thinks lies are being spread about "his" girl. He's being lied to alright, but not by me. The very fact that this is inconceivable to him only proves my point.

Best to give up. As I've said, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

[Oscar]

... in response to Well said...., posted by LP on Oct 15, 2002

It's not that big a deal.. I just think he ought to save his criticism of a poster for when that poster is around to be able to defend themselves..
Something is sure going on with him..  He's been like this ever since he got back from Kiev a few weeks ago..      

[Dan]

... in response to Well said...., posted by LP on Oct 15, 2002

n/t

[LP]

... in response to No "Weenies" Allowed!!   --smi..., posted by Dan on Oct 15, 2002

.....98% ;-)

[Alfred]

... in response to Looks like you're both right, posted by Patrick on Oct 14, 2002

and not suffer the same fate.

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: May our other feuding pair take note..., posted by Alfred on Oct 14, 2002

So Alfred,

So how many trips have you taken?

What have you gleaned from your trips if I might ask?

Greg