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Anastassia
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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: thanks and  nice family, posted by James B on Aug 24, 2002

Hi James B,

Thank you very much for all your compliments! :-) And yes, i am so much happier and complete now that my mom is here too. :-)

I will look into Brama.

Faith is very important to me and Lance, we also pray every single evening thanking God for the past wonderful day and the health and his protections and so on. It makes us so close. When in Moscow, Russia i didn't really go to church that often but here we go every single Sunday, the whole way of praying and praising God is totally different, i have to come through some changes here...
But we follow both ways, Lance and I were married in a Russian Orthodox Church and our Andre was christened in a Russian Orthodox Church in Seattle and he was also dedicated in our Non-denominational church here in Redmond.

My sincere congratulations to you and your fiancée, why did it take you so long??? Is your case complicated? Or they lost your package (God forbid)?

Great true happines to you and our future family,

Anastassia

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James B
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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: thanks and  nice family, posted by Anastassia on Aug 25, 2002

Anastasia,

It took me a long time because we wrote for four months, then I took a couple of visits before asking her to marry me.  We were at 13 months and then she send me the required papers and since I am in the U.S. Navy and living in Iceland I submitted the papers and the process took 9 1/2 months to complete approval.  She was in the international driving school when the approval came and we decided it would be worth her finishing the last 3 1/2 weeks and then coming to me.  She can drive in Iceland with this license and later we will work to get her one when we move back the U.S.A.

I too have a similar relationship spiritually as you and your husband.  We pray every night and it's wonderful.  She still has her own faith, but now reads the bible and it's opened a whole new world to her.  She just loves to read and discuss what she learns with me.  I appreciate and embrace all her differences and we are able to merge all of our culture and experiences with joy.  I am sure that our spiritual lives will mirror yours very much as we experience our life together.  She has been here to Iceland on two occasions for 45 days each time and has experienced our church which has different form, but she enjoyed it.  I have also visited her church in Sumy and we enjoyed spending time in prayer for our family and our future together.  Yes, there is a great emphasis on prayers for health and happiness in the Orthodox church, but it's important to all of us and we do pray for these things every night. Jim

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: thanks and  nice family, posted by James B on Aug 24, 2002


I don't think anyone has waited as long as you have!

I don't know how you've stood it.

We're all rooting for you two and Sep 21st!

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PrincetonLion
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Looks and skin deep, posted by Anastassia on Aug 24, 2002

Hm-m-m-m... I would prefer Auntie Leigh! (Just for my taste...)
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Anastassia
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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to I would prefer..., posted by PrincetonLion on Aug 24, 2002

That is because she is an American.
As to appearances, she is a really cute lady. But she has already married (as you can see) a Christian guy with 2 children.

Tastes differ. :-)

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Oscar
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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Looks and Skin Deep, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 24, 2002

Any of these women will be the first to tell you that they also need to be attracted physically to their man!  This is hardly exclusive to men.  As I said before, I met a ton of "model types" in Russia and Ukraine who were demanding, selfish, unkind and just plain witchy (not so much with me, but everyone else around them, waiters, waitresses, taxi drivers, shop clerks, etc..) I had absolutely no use for these women.  I kept looking until I found a woman who was kind, selfless and sincere, just like some of the other men here were looking for and found.  Sure, there are a few sugar daddies here that just wanted the eye candy, but I do not think it is representative of the majority on this board at all.
So I do not think it is an accurate comparison that men just want beauty and women want money.  EVERYONE wants to be attracted.  Certainly there is a difference between attracted and blowing your socks off, but ALL want to be attracted.

Oscar

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to C'mon Mark-, posted by Oscar on Aug 24, 2002

Well, at least you will admit that looks matter.

Now we just have to agree on how much...

All I am saying is that looks matter more to a man than they do to a woman.

And, conversely, a job matters more to a woman than it does to a man.

And that doesn't make a man shallow... nor does it make a woman shallow.

It's the way we are wired.

Some say this goes back to the day of primitve man. Man would seek an attractive mate, because he was a hunter. The woman, being a nester, was more interested in how well the man could provide for the family.

She was attracted to his ability to protect and provide... he was attracted to what caught his eye as a hunter. (There is also a thought that a man was attracted to a woman with large mamory glands -breasts- because it was thought that she could nurse healthier babies)

Now... I don't know if I buy all of that. But the fact that scientists have actually come up with theories to explain this does indicate that it is something that is real and measurable.

So, when a man goes to Russia in search of a gorgeous woman ... or when a woman is interested in a man's ability to provide ... this is simply something that is built in to us.

For whatever reason.

And when a man says that looks don't matter... or when a woman says that she is just as attracted to a stock-boy as a stock-holder... then what we have is someone who is not telling the truth to someone...

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Dan
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« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Ahhh... Common Ground, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 24, 2002

::the fact that scientists have actually come up with theories to explain this does indicate that it is something that is real and measurable.

Mark - "theory" according to the American Heritage Dictionary:

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.
3. A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.
4. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.
5. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.
6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

Nothing in there equates 'theory' with "real and measurable."

The 'theory' you recounted is merely speculative - though plausible. Still - miles away from "real and measurable."

Do you believe everything you read?

- Dan

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Naw Mark - You're Too Gullible . . ., posted by Dan on Aug 24, 2002

I hurt your feelings during our last "debate", so now you're going to quibble with everything I say... like you did Oscar a while back, eh?

Well... feel free.

But... just to set the record straight...

I did not say that the fact sociologists had theories made those theories true. That wasn't what I said at all.

I was simply saying that if people are out there doing studies and getting grants to try to understand WHY something is happening... it means that there is enough evidence that it IS happening, that it becomes more than just "my" opinion. There must be SOME evidence of this, Dan, because people are spending money on finding the cause.

And, it logically follows, it MUST be measurable to some extent, because the scientists and sociologists had to provide some level of proof to get backing for their studies. The fact that you don't think that they had to show any proof at all simply tells me that you have never been involved in getting a grant.

Furthermore, this is not one abstract study. The fact that men and women are attracted to different things, and behave differently in a relationship, is a well established and accepted fact of human science.

Finally, it has been established in many studies that men are attracted to appearance more than a woman is, and that women are attracted more to security.

I don't have time to prove the obvious (what is next Dan... will you want proof that the sun rises in the east? Shall you look up the definition of sunrise, and want me to defend it???) So... I will simply cite one...

Dr. David Buss, in his in-depth study of sexual attraction (published in 1994) entitled: "The Evolution of Desire - Strategies of human mating"  makes this rather bold statement: " Men worldwide want physically attractive, young, and sexually loyally wives who will remain faithful to them until death.  This is universal across cultures and are missing in none” (P.  70 of his report)

Conversly, he states this about women: "Evolution has favored women who prefer men who possess attributes that confer benefits ... so over time women have evolved to focus on certain traits that are more stable.." (P. 21).

He goes on to list the traits based on an international study. Guess what was number one? Yes, Economics. (I quote from pages 24-25)

"Women tend to value economic resources about twice the rate of males... This was confirmed over 50 years of studies, different methods, different cultures..."

(Incdentally, another interesting side note:   Women prefer older men – 2 to 5 years, world wide...)

Now, if you want to say: "This isn't true. It just can't be true! LOOK, I have a dictionary here, and it has a definition of the word THEORY in it... doesn't this prove my point???"  Then, feel free. You go right ahead, if it makes you happy ...

I mean... don't get me wrong... it IS a nice service of you... giving the board a "Word of the Day"... I just don't see how that contributes significantly to the debate.

However, if all you are seeking is to be contrary... well then congrats, Dan... mission accomplished.

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Dan
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« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Oh... I get it, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 24, 2002

Yeah - I figured it'd get under your skin that I (of all people) would point out the logic inconsistency in your statement.

No Mark - I don't care to quibble with you at all.

And no - you didn't hurt my feeling previously at all. I sort of thought it was YOU that got your knickers in a twist - not me.

All that has nothing to do with the fact that your comment in the previous message, was, indeed, illogical. The fact that you feel so compelled to prove your point is - well, let's just call it 'interesting' for now.

Cheerio Mark,

- Dan

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Maybe . . ., posted by Dan on Aug 24, 2002

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Glad you're enjoying yourself, though... You are making no sense at all -- But you seem to be having fun...

(I'm starting to wonder if you read my posts at all, or whether you're just recycling random posts you've made in the past. Honest to God I've had more intelligent conversations with my dog...)

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Anastassia
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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Whatever..., posted by MarkInTx on Aug 24, 2002

And again for the hundredth time everybody stayed stuck to his/her opinion.

I am wondering where are other ladies from this list, are they just passive readers and look at all this thread entertaining themselves!!!???

I actually post rather rare as i just don't have time for this but when i have and a theme touches me then i post, but such kind of reactions from men here don't give me any incentive to write on this board and share. Leave alone i have already found my love.

... And please don't tell me i post here for the sake of my link... The length of my letters speaks for itself. I bet it takes a bit more time for me to write a page than for you guys.

MarkInTx and others who understood me pretty well, thanks for your support and sharing your ideas, i agree with you.

Good luck to everybody, let you find what you really want in a woman and God bless.

Anastassia

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MarkInTx
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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Whatever..., posted by Anastassia on Aug 25, 2002

I guess all of the other ladies have watched the treatment you got for being honest, and decided that they didn't want to run the guantlet of the bullies.

Once again, thanks for posting, and stick around! Please!

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Stevo
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« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Ahhh... Common Ground, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 24, 2002

not being honest.  You start with catalogs (paper variety or internet) and say "Wow!" when you look at the FSU women.  THAT'S why you start searching there in the 1st place.

Stevo

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Oscar
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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Ahhh... Common Ground, posted by MarkInTx on Aug 24, 2002

No Mark.. You keep saying all men are going to the FSU looking for a "gorgeous" woman..  It's just not true.  Myself and many other men want a woman we are "attracted" to but she certainly does not have to be "gorgeous"!  If that is YOUR criteria that is ok, but please don't lump me in with you..

And as far as women looking for the ability to provide, I agree, I think that is certainly a factor and a legitimate one, but for a woman to say "he MUST make a lot of money and have a high education", I think that is just too blatant!  That is beyond reasonable to me.  

Oscar ;-)

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