Patrick...

[WilliamF]

Like the new look. But one thing still bothers me.  Seems like it would have been a good time to get rid of the words in the upper left-hand corner: "The Mail Order Bride Guide."

Why perpetuate such an insulting choice of words? Can you put it to rest - or is this someone else's call?

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Patrick..., posted by WilliamF on Aug 10, 2002

Plaster the web site all over with the words "Mail Order Bride" but make the characters white on a white background so we never see it.  Search engines would put this site early on their search list because it has the phrase repeated frequently.  I read about that trick being used by car dealers in California.

[Patrick]

... in response to Patrick could use this internet search t..., posted by BubbaGump on Aug 12, 2002

That's a very old trick and only worked in the old days of the internet.  The search engines have constantly been refining their ranking criteria to better evaluate the relavance of web sites and checking text color against background color started long ago.

By the way, "Mail Order Bride Guide" has been all over the site since the beginning (and we were even copied by someone who later registered the domain mailorderbrideguide.com) a while back.  It was only on the message boards that it was removed some time ago in the old design when some people complained.  Apparently many guys are only looking at the message board and have never seen the rest of the site.

I want to have a consistant look to all areas this time. The logo is also the same logo that get's installed as a reciprocol link on other pages, so this time I'm going to keep it here.

It's certainly not literally descriptive of the reality of meeting and marrying a foreign woman, but it's certainly the most used search engine phrase by people looking for information and the most common phrase used to describe marriages between Western men and foreign women who meet through agencies or personal ads.

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Re: Patrick could use this internet sear..., posted by Patrick on Aug 12, 2002

Dang, try to get smart and someone else compensates.

[Mark H]

... in response to Re: Patrick could use this internet sear..., posted by Patrick on Aug 12, 2002

I knew i WAS RIGHT!

mARK h.

[jg]

... in response to Patrick..., posted by WilliamF on Aug 10, 2002

An excellent idea (sans Oscar).  The phrase is definitely
pejorative.  I am reminded of the lobbyist who coined
the phrase, "Japan bashing..."  In an interview his most
telling quote was, "..the person who uses the phrase is
immediately my intellectual dupe"  So it is here.  It is
one thing to be proud and in no way ashamed of our
search and adventure, still the "MOB" phrase carries
baggage full of dirty laundry.  YOU CAN NOT MAIL
ORDER A BRIDE!  It implies a type of slavery and
demeans by association all involved in the process.  Its
use should be limited to those who harbor our efforts ill
intent, and therby identify them.   It is the favorite phrase
and indictment of our sworn enemy, the many-faced
chameleon like, re-appearing scourge.....the troll!  I
need not the results of any poll; I have long banished
this phrase from my personal lexicon, and hereby call
on all involved in our pursuit to do the same.  And if you
hear it, recognize the gauntlet thrown down and do not
hesitate to smote it in every vestage where it stands!
Maybe later I will feel emboldened enough to quit being
so meek and tell you how I really feel.......

[tfcrew]

... in response to Patrick..., posted by WilliamF on Aug 10, 2002

Everybody knows how un-reliable the mail is.

[vagn]

... in response to How about "The Foreign Bride Guide&..., posted by tfcrew on Aug 10, 2002

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[Oscar]

... in response to Patrick..., posted by WilliamF on Aug 10, 2002

Well, I really don't mind the "Mail Order Bride" phrase at all.. I am actually proud of the fact that I did something VERY different than the main stream!  I didn't like what I was finding here so I am glad that I (all of us) had the courage to go this very different route..  I think it will be great to be able to tell grandkids someday about our "Mail Order Brides"! ;-)
Actually, I did not find my girl in an agency or even "mail" her before I met her.  I met mine there through a personal ad, but it's all same to me and I don't think anyone should be afraid or ashamed to say how they met their girls..  I feel we are all in a very special club if you will.. ;-)

Oscar

[yoe]

... in response to Patrick..., posted by WilliamF on Aug 10, 2002

n/t

[Bobby Orr]

... in response to Patrick..., posted by WilliamF on Aug 10, 2002

Agree that MOB is a complete misnomer and should be dropped.

[Mark H]

... in response to Patrick..., posted by WilliamF on Aug 10, 2002

Mail order bride terminology never bothered me, still doesn't. I think you should leave it because even though it is outdated and politically incorrect......most newbies go to a search engine and type "MAIL ORDER BRIDE". I suspect it stays simply for that reason, yes Patrick?

It's time in this country for people to quit allowing words and crap that really doesn't matter, to bother them. I'm so sick of political correctness.

Mail order bride is a term to generically clump this activity. It does not in any way insinuate that you pick out a chick in a catalog and order her. However, we are "picking" out girls to visit to hopefully bring her here. If the words Mail Order Bride bother you, you will definitely have your hands full when your girl gets here and all along the way. I get teased and chided all the time by co-workers and friends/family. They do it in good taste but it's teasing nonetheless.  I suspect many will have problems with that if they're not already.

It's just words, why does it bother you few so much?

Mark H.

[Rags]

... in response to Re: Patrick..., posted by Mark H on Aug 10, 2002

Yeah, I got some of that along the way but I shut them up when V got here.

[KenC]

... in response to Re: Patrick..., posted by Mark H on Aug 10, 2002

Mark,
Anything that tarnishes the love you have is bothersome.
KenC

[Mark H]

... in response to because, posted by KenC on Aug 10, 2002

Ken,
Hey guy, howszit?  It can only tarnish your love if you let it. I really don't get the big deal?

As a matter of fact, our Anesthesia tech found a little "brochure" with a picture of a Phillipina on the front, and stated a bunch of junk about "Mail Order Bride". It looked like a little pamphlet you would find advertising a trip to Hawaii...it was about marrying a filipina. Of course, it made it's way to the assignment board with a little bubble caption saying "Oh Mark, me make you happy, love you long time". Another person wrote "I want come to land with big PX".  I laughed, we all got a kick out of it and I continue on with my pursuit. SOmetimes it gets old but after a while it goes away.

Mark H.