Interesting agency information

[johnnydudeman]

... in response to Your turn dude man!, posted by Jack on Jul 9, 2002

[Just staying with the military rank themes we seem to have going in the subject lines here.]  

I've got a bad cold now and I'm losing my voice (to the delight of some).  So maybe I'll shoot some holes through your "spar"gument later.  "Cash cows" and "trickery" and "marriage agency rule books" and "Italian stallions?"  You're on a roll, Jack.  I don't even know where to begin.  But for now...I'll leave you with the infinite lowbrow wisdom of "Schultz" who I think said it best when he said, "I know nothing. I see nothing. I say nothing."

[Jack]

... in response to Colonel Klink, posted by johnnydudeman on Jul 9, 2002

....we'll let the subject die for now and will bring it up in a few weeks when your in Big D and you having had a couple of beers.

Hey MarkinTex,...errr I mean corporal La beau, you up for a few beers??

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Ok Hogan,..., posted by Jack on Jul 9, 2002

I'm always up for a few beers. (Don't know if I can pass for a short frenchman... but I'll do my best...)

My rules for beer are very simple: I won't drink anything with Coors, Miller, or Bud in the name.

Shiner Bock, however, is always appreciated, and can be found in most places around here (as you know...) In fact, I think they serve it in some churches around here...

Who's buyin'?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Your turn dude man!, posted by Jack on Jul 9, 2002

Two things come to mind:

One: Stefano should have asked for three replacement addresses from Anastasia. (And, I do agree that if "Elena" was posted in Anastasia, she sould have used a real address... )

Two: The other common advice: Get the agency out of the middle. Why didn't he ask Elena for her address through email? Or, failing that, why couldn't he have set up the meeting through email?

[Jack]

... in response to One of the many lessons here..., posted by MarkInTx on Jul 9, 2002

Mark,

 One: Stefano had purchsed some other addresses from Anastasia a month or so earlier and he did get a credit for some of the bad addresses he had been given. Just as with you, when a client buys an address from another agency and we discover it is bad in the process of hand delivering a letter, flowers or sending by registered mail, I encourage the guys to ask for three replacement addresses, and to date I think all clients have received such. With regards to good Natasha's bad address, I think he (Stefano) was so bummed out on the deal and as he was already in Ukraine, it just wasn't something he had time for.

 Two: In his e-mails to Elena, through the Kherson Pearls agency, he did ask for her home address and phone number, a couple of times, but for some reason they were never given. Can you say "creative editing"!

 

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: One of the many lessons here..., posted by Jack on Jul 9, 2002


That's really a shame.

I agree...

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Major disagreement, posted by Jack on Jul 9, 2002

Jack,

After reading your post... I would fully agree that Natasha is greedy.

I would agree that she does not have her client's best interest at heart.

I would agree that the story you tell is sad and unfortunate.

I just don't agree that Kherson Pearls should be added to a scam site. At least not from what you said.

If the agency owner is trying to make "too much money" that is not a scam. It is greed, and avarice ... sure. There are a lot of words that might fit... greed, gluttony, avarice, cupidity... take your pick... just not scam, please...

I think we need to be careful with that term.

A scam, to me, is a con game. It is trying to get men's money without ever having any intention of having the man find a sincere woman.

To me it is like the difference between a card game in a Vegas casino, and a three card monte game in the back alleys.

You stand a chance of losing a lot of money at both games, but in the three card monte, you stand no chance of ever winning. It's rigged. Its a con. IT'S A SCAM.

Now... Should men stay away from the agency? I would. There are better agencies in Kherson.

[johnnydudeman]

... in response to Greed vs. Scam, posted by MarkInTx on Jul 9, 2002

I will agree with mark's use of the term "scam" and that we should not throw that word around so freely when there are some REAL scams out there.  

As for greed.  Yeah.  I saw lots and lots of that in Ukraine and Russia.  Every taxi driver wants to charge Americans more if they can get away with it and the trains and shows and museums and circuses all seem to have special higher prices for Americans.  I also had a situation where I had just bought a phone card at the phone company building outside the smaller airport in Kiev and I tried to use the phone company card in the phone company phone and the phone company worker there wanted to charge me $5 just to show me how to use it.  Yeah, greed is prevalent there.

[johnnydudeman]

... in response to Greed vs. Scam, posted by MarkInTx on Jul 9, 2002

You say there are better agencies in Kherson?  So, which agencies in Kherson have you personally used there, mark?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to mark used an agency in Kherson?, posted by johnnydudeman on Jul 9, 2002

I used "A Kherson Rose" to deliver flowers and chocolate to Victoria on a couple of occasions.

The owner is from Kherson, and married a guy from OKC.

There were a few posts about them a little while back. Some 50 year old guy was upset with them because they wouldn't line up 19 year olds for him to date while he was there. I thought this was a good testament for their sertvice, so I used them when I had to send things to Victoria.

They gave me very personal service, and charged me a fair price.

The owner personally delivered the flowers, since she was in Kherson. And she took the time to sit down and visit with Victoria and her father. They sent me a picture of Victoria receiving the flowers.

I thought it was great service, and I would use them again in a heartbeat.

[johnnydudeman]

... in response to A Kherson Rose, posted by MarkInTx on Jul 9, 2002

You wrote "there are better agencies in Kherson."  But you don't really KNOW because you only used one agency and only on a limited basis and you have nothing else in Kherson to compare them to.  Hmmm...let's see...you had limited contact with one Kherson agency...and they paid some attention to you...and they treated you well over the internet...and now that makes you think they are a better agency???  Well, mark, that says a lot your selection process and about the extent of your demands.  I hope that's not the same way you go about selecting more important things in life, such as, say...a wife.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to couldn't resist, posted by johnnydudeman on Jul 9, 2002

Well... they certainly charged me a very nominal rate, and delivered what they said they would.

If you think Kherson Pearls is so much better... you are welcome to use them.

Once again, my comment was: "I wouldn't use them."

And I wouldn't.

Feel free to take whatever shots makes you feel better...

[BarryM]

... in response to Re: couldn't resist, posted by MarkInTx on Jul 9, 2002

Kherson Pearls = scam agency that fleeces their clients.

Kherson Rose = small mom and pop agency with personal service and a good track record.

Scam agencies don't always screw over all of their clients, just the ones that are easy to scam.

-blm

[johnnydudeman]

... in response to Kherson Pearls vs Kherson Rose..., posted by BarryM on Jul 9, 2002

I don't know about that...maybe you know something I don't.  But I did not get fleeced by Kherson Pearls; they did a good job for me.  

I have never worked with that other agency but I think they have some REAL old profiles not updated since 2000 and which the "good track record" agency suggests on their own website that there have been only 1 or 2 address requests for that girl over the past two years, and "that just don't sound right."  I have met girls who are posted on both websites.  But overall, and from what I have seen, I think Kherson Pearls has the most pretty girls of all the Kherson agencies.

[paul21]

... in response to "Natasha and Kherson Pearls is good..., posted by johnnydudeman on Jul 9, 2002

Last year Natasha helped a girl scam thousands of $$$ from me, I totally believe Natasha received a portion of that money. When the scam became known, Natasha spread many lies about me, and called me names for no reason.  Natasha has many girls on her site that are just in it for the dates, she knows who they are, why don't she get rid of them. I wouldn't trust Natasha as far as I can throw her.