But more interestingly,

[yoe]

I want to know what happend to MDante.
Then ole dande-I hope he found a gal.
There are many guys I have seen come and go here. Most I hope really do well with their gals. The others, I hope just get busted before they hurt someone. One thing is for sure, there is a phenomenon here. And people can say what they want, but these guys with foreign wives have a better home life-in general.IMHO
I think that I have the most beauriful wife-LP has seen her. Believe it or not-she would not give him a secon look.
So look to others on this journey with hope, sympathy and compassion. It is very difficult and very wonderful. At times board like these are all people have to go to for a little breather and comaradity. I have been using this board for around 3 years and have hated it and love it. I have had people call me names and give me great advice. But most importantly I knew there were other guys going through the same thing.
Is it crazy to do what we do? yes
Is is against the norm? maybe
but, it is happening and it is working. I have met maybe 50-75 AM/RW couples. So many more from other places.
Only thing that I know is that my wife love me and I love her. Not in the TV sense-in the real "we are stuck with each other' sense. Maybe I could have found someone else. Maybe not! I know what I want-I do not and did not need to go on a cattle call. For guys who are unsure of themselves or what they want-they may take a few years and date many women. I did it when I was young, insecure and had no idea what I wanted. When I decided-I decided. So whatever works. Do not let anyone discourage you-if it feels right. The worst that can happen is you will miscalculate. Just as Wild Bill. But I would never fault a guy for trying.
Peace
Joe

[Dan]

... in response to But more interestingly,, posted by yoe on Jun 16, 2002

While I like the idea of having LP's insights and analyses back on the board - if it means we have to put up with yoe's inane meanderings - maybe it's not such a good idea after all.

Cheers yoe!

- Dan

[yoe]

... in response to I Don't Know . . ., posted by Dan on Jun 16, 2002

With every word of reason............somebody has to have some wisdom (that be me).
You see, the heart does not run on 'reason'. It does not make sense. But what makes less sense, is how you and others support a person who berates you, calls you names and says that your are a fool and a loser! Read the archives.
It was not until I kept reings tight, your buddy uses all of my material to win you back-and then to insult you again. I just remember ole David SD saying, that he was going to win everyone over just to come out say 'gotcha'.
Again read the archives!
I have always been consistent and honest!
LP was Anti-RW just a few months ago. Or was he just 'dating' a few. Now he has found the one and brought back a child? Hmmmm. Again read the archives.
Dan, SOMETIMES you make sense! But, others I think that you just like to read yourself type!
Cheers!
Joe
I told you consistent!

[Dan]

... in response to Hey Dan..........., posted by yoe on Jun 16, 2002

I think you are spending WAY too much time reading the archives! Seems you've nearly got them memorized.

There's bound to be a more productive way to develop your new Eastern Europe business interests.

And BTW - consistency is my middle name.

- Dan

[yoe]

... in response to Your Skin is Thinning Out Down in That W..., posted by Dan on Jun 17, 2002

you could have been more............forceful. I have pretty much said my piece. I will cool it for a while again. I don't wish anyone any misfortune. Mostly, I did not want Mark to call his Victoria and get all paranoid-it can happen. I am glad he is more secur. People can really hurt with words, man. I know what some of the guys here did to me. It could have ruined the whole thing for me. When you are new, you only have guys like us for help. So do not give up Dan, you are good help for people-mostly. Just learnto put the breaks on-you do not have to get the last word-always. As you know I am very much this way. Many people here have great knowledge-even lp. sometimes people just let their insucurities overide their true intention. I belive that lp does not have ill intentions-he just gets carried away. he starts hair pulling looking to get someone going then the fist come out. I never took him personally and I knew what was up. We all like a good spat-we are animals after all. I know that the board is quite without the trolls. lp left after the trolls left-it took away a lot of the fun. anyway, peace
Joe

[greg2]

... in response to thanks for taking it easy on me........., posted by yoe on Jun 17, 2002

when Dan just try to get the last word in most of the time it is because he was right IMHO

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Yea but, posted by greg2 on Jun 17, 2002


Nevertheless...

The constant need of everyone to get the last word is what makes the wars last so long and get so tiresome.

"You didn't read my post..."

"No, you didn't read my post..."

"No... You didn't read mine..."

etc,

etc.

Fact is... if they didn't read your first post... chances are REALLY good that they're not going to read your fifteenth, either...

I mean, I like Dan. And, I like Oscar, too.

But the war had to stop... you can only do so much of that...

[greg2]

... in response to Re: Yea but, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 17, 2002

Sometimes it gets redondunt for sure Mark.

But even then out of all of it sometimes comes some good that otherwise would not surface.  And, most of the time, not all, it gets called redundent and the end is soon to show after the value of it all has been retrived IMHO. Other times it all becomes down right comical and entertaining also.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to thanks for taking it easy on me........., posted by yoe on Jun 17, 2002


Joe,

I appreciate your comments, and I appreciate why you made them.

And I also could not agree with you more.

Except I disagree that LP doesn't mean to hurt people. I think that is exactly what he means to do.

One of the reasons that I find LP's postings so despicable is that he *does* try to hurt people.

Look at it: He will not tell us where he went, or who's girl he screwed... nope... he wants to be vague, because then he can affect as many people as possible. When pinned down, he'll back off and say: "Hey, I just said *maybe* I did..."

The fact is that I never asked Victoria if she were with him. Why? Because I know Victoria. And I know LP. Even if he directly said he was with her (which he didn't, and wouldn't) who am I going to believe? Victoria who has sacrificed for our relationship, and has never lied to me about anything? Or LP -- a small little man who hides behind an internet identity and lashes out at everyone behind the safety of anonymity?

I find it amusing that he has never posted details of his trips, pictures of his journeys, or pictures of either him or his "wonderful woman who wouldn't give you any of you a second glance..."

Good idea. As long as he remains an "international man of mystery" then he might be able to prey on some people's insecurities.

If he posted pictures of himself or his woman, then all would see him for exactly what he really is... and then he would be much less effective...

What could he do when everyone discovered that he was not an all powerful wizard of Oz, but was instead just a short, balding man hiding behind a big metal machine???

[greg2]

... in response to Thanks ... And, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 17, 2002

Mark,

I have seen pictures of LP. Sorry to tell you but he is not a bad looking guy at all. I have seen pictures of perhaps all or most of the women that he spent any real time with from the FSU. They were all very nice looking women.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to LP = LP, posted by greg2 on Jun 17, 2002


Your point being?

I'm not a bad looking guy either... and my fiance is a very nice looking woman...

Big deal... That and .50 gets me a coke...

My "Fat Bald guy" reference was following the Wizard of Oz analogy.

I have no idea what he looks like, so I'll have to take your word for it that he's "Not a bad looking guy." (Although, I'm sure he wouldn't be my type...)

I doubt, however, that he is some Brad Pitt look-alike who has women throwing their panties and hotel room keys at him wherever he goes, though.

And I find it absolutely impossible to believe that his woman is so far superior to everyone else's that she wouldn't give any other of us "losers" a second glance...

Anyway... whatever...

I am bored discussing the jerk. That's the only reason he came here, anyway.

He is like a board terrorist... if we spend all day talking about him... he's won.

I'm through...

On to important items...

[greg2]

... in response to So what?, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 17, 2002

I merely gave you information that you said you felt was missing and important enough for you to mention that is all.

I have not found his latest post Mark so I can not comment about some of what you say. If it is not appropriate, I promise I will attack him. Where is it anyway?

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: So what?, posted by greg2 on Jun 17, 2002

You probably just don't see it, because it was in the midst of the Ken, Dan, Oscar war.

It was in the thread:

"come on Oscar, be honest" started by KenC

Although I summarized it above for Dan. All of the quotes in there were the ones I found objectionable. I didn't read his next several posts... I'm sure I would have found a wealth of material there, as well...

[BrianN]

... in response to Thanks ... And, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 17, 2002

watch it with the short balding man thing...

heh heh :^)

[MarkInTx]

... in response to hey hey now..., posted by BrianN on Jun 17, 2002

Ooops...

I thought about that later...

I was not calling him Fat and Bald. That actually makes no difference in the scheme of things, anyway...

I was simply finishing the Wizard of Oz analogy... the "Wizard" was just a short bald guy... not an all-mighty wizard...

That's all I meant...