My experience with this

[Stan B]

... in response to One Question though, posted by MarkInTx on May 1, 2002

and call me a fool, but I'm really not worried about it. The house is still in my name and we have discussed that if we did split, all that she'd want is whats fair (whatever that is :-)

[BubbaGump]

... in response to I didn't, posted by Stan B on May 1, 2002

This must be your first marriage.  Women are in a different reality when it comes to fair during a divorce.  My ex increased her demands a lot as the divorce progressed and she got madder and madder.  My best friend is getting his second divorce and he said he will go for the prenup if there is another marriage.

[Richard]

... in response to I didn't, posted by Stan B on May 1, 2002

I'm not going to call you a fool - that's what I did the first time and would like to do again.  My first wife and I discussed this before marraige and all she wanted, if it didn't work,was what she came in with.  She ended up asking for, and nearly getting, more than half of everything acquired during the marraige.  (That's why I feel that there is a big difference between what is fair and what is legal.)

[Richard]

... in response to One Question though, posted by MarkInTx on May 1, 2002

I asked this question a short while ago, and didn't get much of an answer. I'd really like to get some idea of how many people have obtained pre-nups.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: One Question though, posted by Richard on May 1, 2002

I have already decided I will.

I've been married twice. I can't afford to lose any more ground like I have...

I have nothing set aside, and I am 40 years old, and make good money.

It's not fair to my daughter to risk what I am able to piece together.

The woman I marry is just going to have to understand that. It's not for me... it's my daughter's inheritance I am talking about.

We've been told a million times that Russian women are not as materialistic as AWs...

If that's true, than I guess she wont care, will she...?

I'm willing to be fair... but I'm getting a prenup, or I'm not getting married. Period.

PS: And in Texas, there IS no alimony... and I'm STILL getting one...

[Michael B]

... in response to I'm going to get one..., posted by MarkInTx on May 2, 2002

Better read that law book again or ask a shyster. There IS alimony in Texas, they just use the euphinism "spousal support".

1) must have been married 10 years or more
2) person awarded the alimony (always the woman, ha ha) must prove "great need" or some such legal term that basicaly means that.

It's pretty hard to get (my ex tried and failed) but it does exist.

[BarryM]

... in response to There is too alimony in Texas, posted by Michael B on May 3, 2002

The alimony in Texas is for housewives who have stayed at home during the marriage of 10 years or more and raised the kids, took care of the house, etc, but have very little work experience.

Most of the time it is awarded to women who have been married for 25 years or more and have not been employed. A of lot times these women have very a difficult time getting gainful employment because of their age (over 45) and lack of marketable skills. When the husband has been the only means of support for so long, this type of alimony is necessary.

-blm

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Yes, but it is fair alimony..., posted by BarryM on May 4, 2002

What I don't like is that the law takes nothing into consideration when following blanket guidelines.

That's why I like Texas approach.

Sure, if the situation is as you say... the woman should get alimony.

I think any guy who dumps his wife for a "Trophy Wife" (and there are a LOT of those guys here in Dallas) should pay through the nose in Alimony.

You leave your wife for your secretary... you should pay. No question.

But my wife of 8 years left me when she got into a strip-club/gay club lifestyle, and eventually ended up moving in with her "girlfriend." (And I mean that in every sense of the word.)

She will NEVER remarry.

She did all of this despite my best efforts to reconcile. We even went to extensive marriage counselling, but it was an addiction she just couldn't stop.

If I had lived in almost ANY state except Texas, I would be paying her alimony for the REST OF HER LIFE! Because she's never getting remarried. In California, she would be entitled to half of my salary for life!

That's just plain wrong.

God... I Love the State of Texas!

[MarkInTx]

... in response to There is too alimony in Texas, posted by Michael B on May 3, 2002

Hey... if she's with me for ten years... I wouldn't begrudge some Alimony...

[BubbaGump]

... in response to I'm going to get one..., posted by MarkInTx on May 2, 2002

If she wittles away at your assets then your retirement is getting screwed too, not just your daughter's inheritance.  Kepp your 401K (or IRA) money seperate.  Don't let that become a joint asset by mixing funds accumulated during your marriage with what you had from before.  If I married, I would start a seperate IRA with the money rolled over from this job and not mix it with my old IRA.  I think you can title property or start joint accounts with your with your daughter to protect her and yourself.

[Michael B]

... in response to It's more than that, posted by BubbaGump on May 3, 2002

In Texas the ex gets half of your retirement plans and 401K etc. no matter if her name is on the account or not. I know, I'm going to have to work until I'm 89 or be awfully poor if I retire before then.

[BubbaGump]

... in response to Suprize!, posted by Michael B on May 3, 2002

A guy just can't win in the USA.  All these laws to protect women just end up making men not want to marry them and get scrude out of our money.

[JR]

... in response to I'm going to get one..., posted by MarkInTx on May 2, 2002

DO become Americanized VERY fast. They meet so many divorced women here who have screwed their ex-husbands every which way possible.

It's hard to think about the "what if's" BUT one does need to protect himself incase.

I just haven't seen a pre-nup that is worth the paper it's printed on ((

[Richard]

... in response to Agree 100% with you.. Many RW's, posted by JR on May 2, 2002

"I just haven't seen a pre-nup that is worth the paper it's printed on (("

May I ask what type of background / expertise you have to make such a statement?

[JR]

... in response to Re: Agree 100% with you.. Many RW's, posted by Richard on May 2, 2002

Just going by what I have seen and experienced over the years.

I have never seen or heard of an iron clad pre-nup where the man comes out of it where he thinks he will/should in a divorce. Rather it's to an RW or AW.

There are so many factors that change.