How this old timer did it...

[tim360z]

... in response to Adjusted rates..., posted by John K on Feb 25, 2002

I did my sample last year,  same sources. ..initial sample of 400...yes I also have a researcher/assistant who did much of the work.  A clear 25% were scammers within a 3 letter scenario.  Maybe 10% drew it out a bit longer. In time I also found 1 agency was also a scam deal.  Most,  for various reasons did not fit my rather harsh criteria.  Of those I think most were nice ladies looking for a real partner---some had 1-2 children...very good ladies for a guy very serious about marriage.  All in all,  over time I have come down to 5 who are really such nice girls and knowing them (albiet letters & telephone calls) is just a pleasure.

[Patrick]

... in response to Re: Adjusted rates..., posted by tim360z on Feb 25, 2002

You both used the same sources, but John thought there were about 5% scammers and another 5% questionable.  You thought 25% were scammers and another 10% questionable.

I wonder if that's just the difference a year or two makes in the overall situation, or if it's something in either the selection process or the criteria by which each man is judging a woman a scammer?  Did you write to quite a few of the really attractive and sexy women?  Perhaps those are the ones more likely to be scammers.

[tim360z]

... in response to Quite a discrepency, posted by Patrick on Feb 26, 2002

Actually,  No.  No sexy or girls in bikini's or swimsuits or anything like that.  yes,  good looking,  but never in the sexy lecher mode.

[tim360z]

... in response to Quite a discrepency, posted by Patrick on Feb 26, 2002

big difference.  But,  if you can slog through all the junk there are some very nice girls there.

[John K]

... in response to Quite a discrepency, posted by Patrick on Feb 26, 2002

I defined a scammer as the following:

1) If she asked for money for anything other than normal email expenses, I considered her a scammer.  (Most of the ladies didn't even mention the expense of email.  I took it on myself to cover the correspondence as I felt it was the gentlemanly thing to do.)

2) If she seemed to have no opinion of her own, but always wanted to know my opinion, only to agree with it.  I considered her likely to be a scammer.

In my opinion the scammers were usually the ones who were beautiful or who considered themselves beautiful...

[Mike]

... in response to Sounds very familiar, posted by Patrick on Feb 25, 2002

I was recently at my cousins house and I told him of a good friend of my wife has recently started an agency in Ukrain. I told him it isn't a scam agency because these are good people. Although some of the girls were average looking my cousin instantly seen a girl on there that he wrote to a while back that wanted him to send money! The moral of the story is even agencies can be fooled. ( that reminds me, I need to contact them and let them know of our discovery )
Anyways John that sounds like very good advice for those that are determind about this and don't want to waist their time taking chances.
Mike

[ron]

... in response to How this old timer did it..., posted by John K on Feb 25, 2002

john, i think I may have missed some things. may i ask, did you meet one woman and is that the woman you married?

[John K]

... in response to Re: How this old timer did it..., posted by ron on Feb 25, 2002

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[Ryan]

... in response to How this old timer did it..., posted by John K on Feb 25, 2002

I have a question, you took 60 woman down to 6 then three then one.  When you went to the country did you just meet with the one or did you meet with about 6 etc.

Thanks again,
Ryan

[John K]

... in response to Great reading...., posted by Ryan on Feb 25, 2002

While many would say this was unwise, I felt comfortable enough with Marina to risk it.  As it was, I could have seen another woman as well, but I didn't feel it was fair to make the ladies feel they were in a competition.  I wanted Marina to realize that I wasn't there to play games.

Looking back, I probably should have kept the other lady's contact information with me, in case things didn't work out.  Katya would have been an excellent choice as well, but Marina was a little more to my preference.  Katya knew of my upcoming trip and pressured me to see her as well, even knowing that I had made my choice with Marina.  Still, I felt that would have been unfair and possibly unpleasant to both ladies if I had chosen to see both.

That was my personal value call, however.  It may not be the same for you or others.