True Love Story, Some Scope to

[tim360z]

laugh a little about,  because that guy could be YOU or someone you know.  The love-bug is just incredible and it can bite anyone.  A guy I know proposed to an AW 3 weeks ago.  He told me his plans in advance and although it is not the way I would do it...you just gotta laugh.  Not at him,  but at the love-bug.  He's 39,  very successful and quite a handsome guy,  very intelligent,  quite erudite and he gots some bucks.  Anyway,  he got it in his mind that he must propose and marry this fairly nice AW he has known and had a relationship with for 2 years in NYC.  She is 34 and a nice lady,  from the little I know her...nice looking but,  just OK.  

  He plans out the proposal scenario for weeks,  asks for my input on a few things...but he is way to in love for me to say,  "Hey,  wait a minute".  He is so nervous.  In his daily business life he is a Master...but in love...he is helpless.  Almost a fool.  Friday night he takes her out to a very romantic dinner,  by plane,  800 miles away,  with a huge stretch limo awaiting for the week-end.  She is surprised.  Pricey accomadations at the resort for the weekend.  Great 1K dinner for 2 at a very exclusive restaurant,  roses and private violinist an add on.  Great champagne and great wine flows.  He gets down on his knees and proposes and he gives her a rock  that would blind you from 10 feet away.  8-10 K for that little beauty.  Guy blew an easy 15K for this proposal moment.  Well....she needs to think about it...but the rock is on her finger and dazzling.....and shes gonna think about it...'cuz she isn't sure....needs a little more time.  Poor darn guy,  he is on the hooks.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to True Love Story,  Some Scope to, posted by tim360z on Dec 5, 2001


If you sent the whole story as a first person narrative... changed all of the AW's to RW... and then asked our advice... What would the whole board be screaming?

"SHE'S A SCAMMER!!! RUN!!!!"

(And take back the ring!)

[BubbaGump]

... in response to True Love Story,  Some Scope to, posted by tim360z on Dec 5, 2001

I've been engaged twice and married once.  When I asked the women to marry me they did not say they'd think about it.  They were practically jumping up and down.  That's the reaction you want to see.  He should reconsider and next time give the ring after she says yes so you don't have to pry it off her tightly clutched fist later.  Gosh, we might be in the same boat with these RW.

[Charles]

... in response to That is a warning right there, posted by BubbaGump on Dec 5, 2001

I agree, if they don't say yes, don't give them the ring, especially in this situation.  By the way, 15K might get you  2.5 carats, but 8 will be in the six figures.  But maybe this guy can afford it.

[Cold Warrior]

... in response to True Love Story,  Some Scope to, posted by tim360z on Dec 5, 2001

What has she got to think about would be my question to her. Better sort out these doubts now than after the wedding.Mean time,give me my ring back while you think.

[thesearch]

... in response to True Love Story,  Some Scope to, posted by tim360z on Dec 5, 2001

If she has to think, well he had better not consider accepting her at this point. I would change my mind with that result.

Only a couple explanations why this could happen.

Either he can not read people or does not want to because of being selfish in nature.

Or  this lady is giving him wrong messages for ulterior motives other than marriage.  

When a woman is in love with you, enough that she wants to marry you - well - you know it - you know she is just waiting for you to ask - little chance for a no.

Otherwise, there is more to this story than you are being told.

Lets see if he begs for a yes - God, if he does well ....I won't say more.

[tim360z]

... in response to Re: True Love Story,  Some Scope to, posted by thesearch on Dec 5, 2001

reading her.  I think she likes him as a dear friend and was absolutely beyond flabbergated at his proposal...I could tell this when I first met her...she had no idea of his intentions.  But,  you know being a CEO,  he really somehow thought that this whole big proposal show would be the dealmaker.  His people skills are not so hot and I really feel sorry for him in that one area.  Now,  me?  Maybe I would have invited her over to help me rake some leaves,  cook her a great dinner have a nice little wine and say..."Hey,  what do you think about...."  Honestly,  he was just not so familiar with her to make it that casual...he needed (some ego compensation issue) to make it a big deal.  Oh! And the ring...he insisted she keep it while she thinks about it,  wwwhhheeewww!

[LP]

... in response to Yeah!  I think he was really bad at, posted by tim360z on Dec 5, 2001

...Does this guy know about the U/R/W thing or your involvment in it?

If so, what does he think?

[tim360z]

... in response to I'm curious....., posted by LP on Dec 6, 2001

Hi LP,

  No.  I never talk about it.  I think only my 2 best friends know I communicate with some Fsu girls and my sister in Sweden,  who is quite helpful because she has some Russian students.  Actually,  she told me most of the girls are very nice,  but usually shy at first and have varying degrees of an inferiority complex.  But are great students,  study very hard and some of the very best students she has ever had.  Now,  the young males are usually Bozo's who go out of their way to display how little they really know about the world.  Far less mature than other male students who come from a poorer backgrounds and cultures.  And obnoxious.  

  Nope never talk about it though,  especially when theres a couple guys near me talkin' about,  "Hey, have you seen those hot Russian Babes on the internet,  blah, blah , blah"

  " Yeah ! Man,  they got like email and everything!  Yeah! I been writin' to this babe in Moscow...looks better than Britany Spears,  man."  "  She is really hooked on me,  ya know,  her last letter she told me she loves and every night in bed I am all shes thinkin' about,  blah,  blah,  blah"....   I see these jerks and I quietly smile because I hope Britany scams you royally...and I just know she will.  Whoever Britany is.  Some of these guys are gonna be regular customers at the Western Union desk...they just don't know it yet.  Hey,  don't anybody get upset,  'cuz really who tryin' to scam who???

[LP]

... in response to NNNAAAHHH!, posted by tim360z on Dec 6, 2001

...lol, you're talkin to a regular customer at the Western Union desk, but it only goes to chicks who are better lookin than Britany. All told, it's peanuts cheap and the benefits I reap make it a great deal. I completely disagree with holding cash back, so what if it makes more scammers?
Ya know, a fact lost on most is it ain't the scammers fault when a guy gets burned....

Yep, a friend of mine calls it the "Power of the Bush". History shows kingdoms have fallen, wars fought, civilizations altered, on and on, all over a woman. Helen of Troy, Princess Grace, there is no end to it.
lol..Me thinks your pal is under this influence as the POB is all powerful and makes most guys seriously stupid. lol...Just peruse this forum to see how true that can be.

I agree it's best to keep quiet. I get so much grief from people it's hard to ignore because it hurts me from a professional standpoint. To say these other people don't get it is completely wrong because it's well known that a lot of guys involved in this are misfits of one kind or another. One needs to distance oneself from them or one can be executed by association.

Btw, I enjoy reading your posts because you have an interesting writing/communication style that blends well with your grounded attitude. (To much La La here, ya know.)

[tim360z]

... in response to Thanx for the reply......., posted by LP on Dec 6, 2001

you are a regular customer....go to westernunion.com and become a PREFERRED CUSTOMER,  heck theres some great advantages to it.  First,  you get special discounts and second you can send money right from your home or work computer.  Third:  with your special preferred account you can send much more money at the speed of light,  much faster than a WU office.  He11,  anyone thinking this is a cheap inexpensive little pursuit---is in for a little surprise.  Sounds like you do great with the Brittany types,  Whats your secret?

[LP]

... in response to Western Union??? why if, posted by tim360z on Dec 6, 2001

...misunderstood me. I use WU.com for all the transactions. I have had some problems with them but lately it's been fine. lol...I assure you, I don't think this is a cheap pursuit and I have the receipts to prove it. Hey, it's only money right? Spend all ya want, we'll make more.

My secret? lol...well, I suspect it could be my dynamic, award winning personality or simply because I'm prone to flying them to Italy, Spain, Cyprus or Paris to spend time together. It certainly doesn't hurt to be free with the cash ya know, because they like that. Especially the younger ones.

Seriously, I pick the best lookers (to me) as what else does one have to go on at first? Might as well go for the foxes and hope one turns out to have a decent soul. After all, why would you pick a plain jane? The odds are the same, so might as well pick the ones that are visually appealing. Stay with the upper crust so to speak, the odds are the same either way.

Confidence, OK looks, experience in "working" with women and, of course, being very generous helps a lot. They lap it up and until the right one comes along it's a great journey for all involved. Contrary to popular belief, most women see generousity as a good trait, especially if there's a kid involved. Just because they want money doesn't mean their scammers. I mean geez, who doesn't want some extra coin? It's a bargain and far cheaper than letting 'em set the hook too quickly. After all, exactly who's running the show?

Besides, to me it's simply the cost of doing business, as they say.

Course, none of this will work if one is on a desperate mission to get it over with asap, I'm not. lol...In fact, it it gets anymore enjoyable, I may just drag it out a little longer.

[DR]

... in response to Yeah!  I think he was really bad at, posted by tim360z on Dec 5, 2001

Sounds like he's trying to make a sales-pitch to her...not the greatest of beginnings...  

[thesearch]

... in response to Hmm..., posted by DR on Dec 5, 2001

he is trying to buy her. How stupid because sometimes it works and then you are really in trouble because the day very likely might come when she realizes that she limited her own relationship happiness as a trade for being bought.

And, even if it did not compromise her relationship happiness, when things are not going so well as every relationship can experience - she may think the same thing when it is not the case.

[tim360z]

... in response to Yea sounds also like, posted by thesearch on Dec 6, 2001

sort of imperial view of himself.  Sometimes.  He's really a good guy,  but he was not reading her at all,  like not tuning in.  You know a guy can be very successful at business and be a smart guy,  but that love-bug can screw him up.  I've seen it happen many times where a guy can have a great career and everything,  but when it comes to women,  or just one certain woman...the guy is a fool.  And if he saw some other guy doing what he did...he would think,  Man---that guy over there is a complete fool.  Ya gotta laugh!  I know a really good plastic surgeon and he met this ..... Later