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Author Topic: messed up - you ever do this?  (Read 6072 times)
thesearch
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« on: October 24, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

Well,

I sent out several introductory letters from Kiss.com before that site became a mess. The favorable response rate was not that great perhaps 40% so I sent out quite a few. Part of the poor response was because I did not place any data about myself and later I found that the default put me at 18 years old. I figured this out when one lady asked how I could have completed so much college education and only be 18.

When  I would get a response from a lady I would store this plus my letter in a folder on my computer specifically for that lady. Well, it turned out that there were two different ladies with the same first name. One of these ladies responded to a letter in a way that I thought it was from the first. This second lady took a while to respond and I forgot about her actually. So, I got them mixed up. It became clear when correspondence was not making sense to this second lady that I thought was the first. I never returned a letter to the first lady instead sending it to the second. It did not help that one of the ladies changed her e-mail address mid stream.

Now that I have figured it out, I am sure that lady two thinks I am a nut because of e-mail that does not make sense and lady one thinks that I am not that interested. The problem is that out of all the ladies I was interested in these two the most.

I tend to get too busy and I was just not taking enough time to double check everything and this slipped by me.

The reason that I post this is to warn you about keeping good records and not assuming that you have got it all straight.

Anyone else ever screw up like this? Smiley)))

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Go2Rus
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to messed up - you ever do this?, posted by thesearch on Oct 24, 2001

I ran into this situation several times.  The problem I encountered has to do with the naivety of the ladies who think you are going to come 5,000 miles just to see them alone.

Thus, they will send you an e-mail from a new e-mail address and sign it Sveta, or Irina, or Natalie.  But Russians, unlike here, tend to stick with just a few common names, so inevitably you could be corresponding with 5 - 10 ladies with the same first name.  They can also throw you for a loop by using other variations of their names in an e-mail.  Natalie's will sometimes call themselves, Nata, Natale, Natalia, and even Natasha.  And when they combine a different spelling with a different e-mail address; you are dead, no matter how well you have tried to keep records.

While I was in SPb, I was due to meet with a Tatiana for 4 days.  Then I got an e-mail message signed by a Tatiana (who had previously spelled her name Tatyana) wondering when I was going to call her.  So I called the Tatiana and told her I was still coming so she didn't need to worry.  She didn't know what I was talking about, and it almost cooked my goose with her.  So why didn't I know from the e-mail address which Tatiana-Tatyana it was.  Believe it or not the original Tatyana told me she was having trouble with her e-mail and

This is another reason why, when I was in SPb for a month, I refused to give out my apartment phone number to the ladies (I had a very good story to support the reasoning to them).  But one of them had a cell phone which recorded the number of the incoming calls to her.  And sure enough she called once (the night of 11 September to offer condolences) and said, "This is Irina."  But I had not a clue as to which one it was, because I actually had 8 Irina's on my list (it must have been a very popular name during a certain time period).  Not until she talked further, could I distinguish which one it was.I ran into this situation several times.  The problem I encountered has to do with the naivety of the ladies who think you are going to come 5,000 miles just to see them alone.

Thus, they will send you an e-mail from a new e-mail address and sign it Sveta, or Irina, or Natalie.  But Russians, unlike here, tend to stick with just a few common names, so inevitably you could be corresponding with 5 - 10 ladies with the same first name.  They can also throw you for a loop by using other variations of their names in an e-mail.  Natalie's will sometimes call themselves, Nata, Natale, Natalia, and even Natasha.  And when they combine a different spelling with a different e-mail address; you are dead, no matter how well you have tried to keep records.

While I was in SPb, I was due to meet with a Tatiana for 4 days.  Then I got an e-mail message signed by a Tatiana (who had previously spelled her name Tatyana) wondering when I was going to call her.  So I called the Tatiana and told her I was still coming so she didn't need to worry.  She didn't know what I was talking about, and it almost cooked my goose with her.  

So why didn't I know from the e-mail address which Tatiana-Tatyana it was.  The original Tatyana told me she was having trouble with her e-mail and was using someone elses e-mail.  And incredible as it sounds, the friend had the same last name (which showed up in the header) as the last name of the original Tatiana.  Therefore, I just assumed it was the original Tatiana's daughter (she did have a daughter who had e-mail, although I didn't know the daugher's first name).  Ther is no way any guy, even one such as myself who plans meticulously, can avoid these situations.  It all just goes back to the idea that the ladies cannot believe you are there to see anyone but themselves.  Although I will say that a few of them did understand, and thought it was only rational that you met with several ladies; but they were in the distinct minority.

The above use of common names is another reason why, when I was in SPb for a month, I refused to give out my apartment phone number to the ladies (I had a very good story to support the reasoning to them).  But one of them had a cell phone which recorded the number of the incoming calls to her.  And sure enough she called once (the night of 11 September to offer condolences) and said, "This is Irina."  But I had not a clue as to which one it was, because I actually had 8 Irina's on my list (it must have been a very popular name during a certain time period).  Not until she talked further, could I distinguish which one it was.

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Ramblin
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to messed up - you ever do this?, posted by thesearch on Oct 24, 2001

You're not alone on that one.  Keeping track of what you send out is the easy part.  The trouble is when you start getting several letters from several different Victoria's, Olgas, Yana's, Tanya's, etc. and they only sign with a first name and don't include a photo and the return e-mail address is vague.
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robobond
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to messed up - you ever do this?, posted by thesearch on Oct 24, 2001

EVERYONE screws up.   Hey, "In the Book of Life the answers aren't in the back."   Live, Learn, Move On.
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DE
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to messed up - you ever do this?, posted by thesearch on Oct 24, 2001

Got the name of a lady's child mixed up with another laday's once!  Totally inexcusable.  Also accidentially hit the wrong address in my e-mail address book and sent an entire letter to the wrong lady.  Now, I'm extremely careful about double checking everything before hitting "send"!  Live and Learn!
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ron
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to messed up - you ever do this?, posted by thesearch on Oct 24, 2001

searcher i did this once, keeping records are important
but i wonder why you even mess with kiss.com, such a waste of time and so many scammers
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thesearch
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: messed up - you ever do this?, posted by ron on Oct 24, 2001

It was easy and inexpensive. I had purchased some addresses before from some of the larger firms but my experience was that many were no longer  valid leads for many reasons.

I have decided that most likely I will go  with a tour like Jack's of Firstdream but that will not happen till next year. If I do this I will advertise in local papers prior to going as I am told the scammer percentage that respond is much lower than with agencies in general.

So, this was an easy way  of getting involved right now without much work till that time comes.

I have found a few nice ladies though who, I do not think are scammers this way..

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ron
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: messed up - you ever do this?, posted by thesearch on Oct 24, 2001

i am sure kiss.com has many sincere ladies also, did not mean to indicate they were all bad, just a percentage higher than other sites i have used.

i also am going to consider personal ads starting in december or after first of year. like you, i think is a good investment of time and money

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Quasimoto
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to messed up - you ever do this?, posted by thesearch on Oct 24, 2001

The ladies on these sites almost always have an ID#. I have not written to ladies in this method since the beginning. But what I did was make a folder for each site, and attach not only the name to the letter, but the ID number. Each lady had her individual folder as soon as I got a response.

Steve

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thesearch
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: messed up - you ever do this?, posted by Quasimoto on Oct 24, 2001

I did not see an ID number with any e-mail once Kiss.com was not involved - does not mean it was not there.
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Quasimoto
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: messed up - you ever do this?, posted by thesearch on Oct 24, 2001

Good point. I guess you might ask a pertanent question for each lady in the first letter, since you might write to another Lena in the future, and so then the trouble starts. Save the letters you write, and highlight this question for easy reference. Then when they write back, the two Tatyanas or Lenas will be easy to separate.

Steve

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