There is a guy....

[LP]

........who lives in my area. I know he reads this board with amusement, but doesn't post. This message is for him, no other replies are needed or wanted, so it's certainly not a troll post. Have the common decency to lay off.

My friend, you need to contact me! I know how you feel right now, but she isn't worth what you're planning!

I understand how you feel! You know I have always admired your marriage, how you spent so much time and money to find that one "perfect" woman for you, using your brain instead of the easy way. You know how envious of you I have been, how wonderful she seemed, how it was you two who got me involved in this endeavor in the first place. You owe it to me to  remain cool!

I know you must be as stunned and amazed as I am, that you could have been fooled after doing so many of the correct things in searching for her and doing so much after she arrived. This could happen to a million guys, but it shouldn't have happened to you. I know it seems inconceivable that she would do this now, especially so soon after
the status change, but it'll pass if you remain strong! Believe me, I'm as shocked as you are, she truly seemed that one in a million for the entire time I've known her, and you *know* how jaded I can be. It's not your fault!

Please contact me....please! She isn't worth it! Kevin is just sick about it and we're all worried. No one saw it coming, and we all know it wasn't your fault. It's her loss and one day she will surely pay for hatching such an plan and sticking to it for so long. What goes around comes around, you *know* it to be so.

Call or email me! Or at least somehow let me know where you are!
People should hear your story, but not this way!

Just don't do it Buddy. Even though she deserves it more than anyone I know, she isn't worth it! Call me!

[thesearch]

... in response to There is a guy...., posted by LP on Oct 11, 2001

(after this event) will ultimately loose interest in the FSU thing especially because you have to marry them to find out who they are.

[yoe]

... in response to There is a guy...., posted by LP on Oct 11, 2001

I admire your egnimatic, mysterious post. It does not mean shyt but it is interesting just the same. I know what the hidden message is! Your buddy is married to an AW, is pyssed because she is sucking his best best friend off, took his money, embarrassed him in from of his family and oh well it is the same old story..........
As far as here on the Russian front.,My wife's birthday is coming up and were having a whole house of Russkies over. The funny thing about these Russians, their very family and community oriented. They treat their freinds and loved ones with great respect. There is a strong sense of community---that trancesds bogus nationalism. So tell your buddy to go find a good Russian Wife-----------I could tell you stories. Oh yeas the Cafe is opening in two weeks.
Joe
ps for those who did not follow, since my wife came, we have opend an ESL school, opening a cafe, started a cleaning service and continue to run our main business-we have great support and help from the Russian community. I wish our American friends had this sense fo community(other than when they are looking for a handout)

[LP]

... in response to OHHHHHHHHH Buddy,, posted by yoe on Oct 12, 2001

...what a compassionate guy you are.

Hey, screw you Yoey. How do you know your wife isn't poking half of those Russkies?

You're to blind to even *consider* it, aren't ya?

[yoe]

... in response to Re: OHHHHHHHHH Buddy,, posted by LP on Oct 12, 2001

that your sister or mom is not? your crazy not to consider it. Come on-grow up and get real.
Joe

[lp]

... in response to How do you know........, posted by yoe on Oct 12, 2001

....Listen you ignorant, insensitive, uneducated, brain dead, dope smokin, rednecked, pud pullin, corn huskin, hossier fcuk.

Even without the other causualties, four major air crashes deeply affect people in my profession. Add to that, I lost a friend in Washington, *he* lost a planeload of PAX, and I've just spent two weeks flying people, equipment, and blood to NY.

I have dozens of friends outta work, I may soon be one of them myself, and now I still have to find the time and heart to worry about this guy. I'm in no mood to spar with a moronic, backwater, pinhead like you.

Ti ponimyesh poanglyski?? What part of "no replies needed or wanted" went right by that pointed, shiit filled, weed filled head of yours??

What the fcuk part of "have the common decency to lay off" didn't you understand, you indecent, self centered, insecure jerkwad??

And your reply was so classy to boot. At least the others have some respect and tact, you can't muster anything
other than your usual crude, boring, uneducated BS.

I just told someone 30 minutes ago that I wouldnt wish what was happening to my buddy on *anyone*.

I was wrong, there's one a**hole who really needs it.
It's guy like you and the obvious moron who married you  that give both contries a bad name.

Man, as a human being, you *suck*. I mean you really, really suck.

[yoe]

... in response to Arrrgh....., posted by lp on Oct 12, 2001

I hope they are not Red White and Blue........Hope you feel better now. If what you say 'was true' about me, which it is not(well not all) I still would never say to anyone what you have just said to me---------regardless of how thoughtless I am...............Oh yea, sorry for your loss, but the world not not revolve around you,,,,,,,,,,,people are suffering more, doing more about it and dealing with better that either you or I ever have and ever will--------remmeber that.
Your Friend
Joe
Still love ya

[thesearch]

... in response to There is a guy...., posted by LP on Oct 11, 2001


However, I am very curious to know what this is all about. In time I suspect we will hear about it.

[Cain]

... in response to There is a guy...., posted by LP on Oct 11, 2001

Whoa Nelly!

I know you said that no follow-up is required, but that post sounds dramatic.  If your friend is planning on doing something crazy, stop him.  Go find him and keep him out of trouble.

[Patrick]

... in response to There is a guy...., posted by LP on Oct 11, 2001

I wouldn't call this a troll post, but I fail to see the logic in it.  If you know of this guy who lives near you, and he's never posted, then he must have either emailed or called you, so you should be able to contact him outside the board.  Since you've chosen to use the board, I assume you're doing so to let some of the guys here know what could happen, so why not tell the story?

[LP]

... in response to Re: There is a guy...., posted by Patrick on Oct 11, 2001

You're making a lot of assumptions, most of them incorrect.

It's an unusual post because of the unusual circumstances.
A situation full of details that those not involved couldn't possibly know about. Like most of these events, it's not so easily simplified.

I didn't say he never posted, he has many times, but not for a while. As for contacting him, the situation is akin to the post below, but more complicated.

I use the board only as a last ditch attempt to reach him,
not to let guys here know anything. I'm sure every guy here knows these things happen, the endless debate is whether it will happen to *them*. The problem is, most firmly believe it will not.

As for telling his story, it's not mine to tell. Why would I splash the private, painful details of a friend's misfortune on the Net for all the world to read? Especially as it's happening? He can do it, if and when he's ready. Remember also that those here will view it as strangers, it's not so far removed for me.

He isn't after his wife, he's after the "other" guy, a Russian other guy. Same old story. It's a mistake, he ought to be after her instead. I never understood why men go after the other guy, it's the woman who violated the trust.

Go to the "authorities"? Maybe, to save *his* butt, but not to save hers. Some people are simply evil and the world is a better place without them. Many Ukrainian girls are real desperate, and will say or do anything to get out. Frankly, I think he outta return her to Ukraine via a blender and the toilet. Man, is she good. She sure had me fooled also.

I will say a few things about it. First, no matter how well you *think* you know the girl, it's quite possible you simply don't. If half of whats happened in this deal is true, they will have proven once again what great actresses they are and just how devious they can be. It's possible the long term planning on this deal would put even Bin Laden to shame.

Second, no matter what you have to offer her, there is one thing most of you can never be: A native Ukrainian or Russian guy already living in the USA.

Third, you had best pay *very* close attention to the how and why, after she arrives here, when she deals with her own kind. Best watch her Internet/email activities very closely.

Lastly, that fetus growing inside her may not be your's.
On the other hand, how'd you like to have your wife divorce you for a family friend, marry him and raise *your* child while *you* make the support payments? We'll see, but it's a no win situation either way, guaranteed to cause severe problems for years to all involved. If this turns out to be the case, I wouldn't be surprised if he puts a few rounds in them years from now. I sure couldn't blame him.

This guy did everything right, and I mean everything.
(Btw, he's in his 30's, this is his first marriage and they are close in age.) She is good, I'll give her that. If it happened to him, after all the precautions he took, what hope is there for those who rush into it?

Those who have, you'd better think real hard, your time could well be coming. It's why I'm ready to quit, even after finding two seemingly great girls. The risk and the odds are simply not worth it, and I don't rush into anything. Besides, there are so many fine young options here at home.

[mogo]

... in response to Re: Re: There is a guy...., posted by LP on Oct 12, 2001

LP:

Thanks for the eye opener again.  Reading your post and several other articles on this site and horror stories of mail brides in magazines, I have decided that it is not worth the risk.  Call me a loser if you wish, I have canceled my trip to Ukraine.  The money saved will be put to better use.  Yes, I plan to use it for fun in the USA (Life is short).  I thank all my buddies on this site for opening my eyes, I can see things so clearly now.

[Cain]

... in response to Re: Re: There is a guy...., posted by LP on Oct 12, 2001

Hire someone to do the dirty work.  They do exist, and it's the best chance of staying out of jail.

[mogo]

... in response to Re: Re: There is a guy...., posted by LP on Oct 12, 2001

That is a good post, LP.  It should be an eye opener for all those who are blindly rushing to East Europe to find that loved one.  When it comes to a breakup/divorce (in the USA), men lose out.  Remember the law favors the weaker sex.  I hope everyone on the site reads your post carefully.  A pre-nuptial/post-nuptial is probably the wisest thing to do in this day and age.  It is more like having insurance.

[yoe]

... in response to Re: Re: There is a guy...., posted by LP on Oct 12, 2001

You're making a lot of assumptions, most of them incorrect.

It's an unusual post because of the unusual circumstances.
A situation full of details that those not involved couldn't possibly know about. Like most of these events, it's not so easily simplified.

I didn't say he never posted, he has many times, but not for a while. As for contacting him, the situation is akin to the post below, but more complicated.

I use the board only as a last ditch attempt to reach him,
not to let guys here know anything. I'm sure every guy here knows these things happen, the endless debate is whether it will happen to *them*. The problem is, most firmly believe it will not.

As for telling his story, it's not mine to tell. Why would I splash the private, painful details of a friend's misfortune on the Net for all the world to read? Especially as it's happening? He can do it, if and when he's ready. Remember also that those here will view it as strangers, it's not so far removed for me.

He isn't after his wife, he's after the "other" guy, a Russian other guy. Same old story. It's a mistake, he ought to be after her instead. I never understood why men go after the other guy, it's the woman who violated the trust.

Go to the "authorities"? Maybe, to save *his* butt, but not to save hers. Some people are simply evil and the world is a better place without them.
-If you do not go to the authorities you are an acessory.

Many Ukrainian girls are real desperate, and will say or do anything to get out. Frankly, I think he outta return her to Ukraine via a blender and the toilet. Man, is she good. She sure had me fooled also.
-May women are desparate and will do anything-like may American girls who are having affairs with married men, sleeping with men for status etc. the difference is, the FSU women just want a good husband (and yes they do sacrifice a lot for it)Ameruican women give up nothing.

I will say a few things about it. First, no matter how well you *think* you know the girl, it's quite possible you simply don't. If half of whats happened in this deal is true, they will have proven once again what great actresses they are and just how devious they can be. It's possible the long term planning on this deal would put even Bin Laden to shame.
-so you are comparing a homicide to a travesty that is the greatest injustice that has ever plagued the continental USA?

Second, no matter what you have to offer her, there is one thing most of you can never be: A native Ukrainian or Russian guy already living in the USA.
-So what.........

Third, you had best pay *very* close attention to the how and why, after she arrives here, when she deals with her own kind. Best watch her Internet/email activities very closely.
-what she going to do-------contact the 'local russian mafia" don't think so.

Lastly, that fetus growing inside her may not be your's.
On the other hand, how'd you like to have your wife divorce you for a family friend, marry him and raise *your* child while *you* make the support payments? We'll see, but it's a no win situation either way, guaranteed to cause severe problems for years to all involved. If this turns out to be the case, I wouldn't be surprised if he puts a few rounds in them years from now. I sure couldn't blame him.
-sound like many stories in the ole USA tabliod---------maybe that is why they were anthraxed-----------don't open your mail oh buddy.
Hey LP I like ya, but it is ok to ler people be happy. Like me.
It can work out between AM and RW
Joe

This guy did everything right, and I mean everything.
(Btw, he's in his 30's, this is his first marriage and they are close in age.) She is good, I'll give her that. If it happened to him, after all the precautions he took, what hope is there for those who rush into it?

Those who have, you'd better think real hard, your time could well be coming. It's why I'm ready to quit, even after finding two seemingly great girls. The risk and the odds are simply not worth it, and I don't rush into anything. Besides, there are so many fine young options here at home.