Problem with these women...

[Jeff S]

... in response to News flash: Diamonds do not equal love!, posted by DallasSteve on Jun 21, 2001

.. an engagement ring should cost three month's salary - Yeah, right. Whatever happened to being more interested in a person's spiritual qualities than his money?
- Jeff S.

[jo12208]

... in response to News flash: Diamonds do not equal love!, posted by DallasSteve on Jun 21, 2001

I like the way you think

[Golden]

... in response to Re: News flash: Diamonds do not equal lo..., posted by jo12208 on Jun 21, 2001

ummmm hummmm i like da way you think too ...ummmmmm hummmm (couldnt resist makes me think of the movie slingblade) lol

[H2-Oh]

... in response to Re: Re: Problem with these women..., posted by El Diablo on Jun 19, 2001

Good point! I think I gave Johanna to much to soon. I wanted her to have a better life. She didn't know how to handle it and I thought she had more character then she showed. My fault maybe more then Johanna.
I continue to talk to Johanna and want to help her with some problems she has.Many of the problems would have come out eventually, thank God they came out before I married her.

H2-Oh

[jo12208]

... in response to Re: Re: Problem with these women..., posted by El Diablo on Jun 19, 2001

You both have good points.  Some more about the INS helping you.  Or not helping you I should say.  I have had contact with two different offices.  One where I live and the other in Detroit where my soon to be ex-wife flew to Paris from.  

I talked to the criminal investigation office for the Omaha region on three different occasions.  This is June and they do not have any records that they could find that my wife even entered the US..  We came through Miami on March 29.  It is now late June.  I gave them her passport number and all the other data.  They said it is possibly a computer foul=up.

The criminal investigator said once my divorce is final, she becomes an illegal.  Then they can pick her up.  I am certain that they are not going to spend a lot of time looking for her.  I am going to have to track her myself.  Which I have become good at.  That is if she decides she wants to try to hide here.  She did send me four emails that stopped coming four days ago.  They all said to stop calling her parents and she wanted to go back to Cali.  She never called me.

I will be sending the whole story to Bogota but I will bet money that she could get back in the US with some other guy.

[jo12208]

... in response to Problem with these women..., posted by Throw on Jun 19, 2001

I do not know if it took balls to post my story.  I was rereading my story and I did have several warnings about her.  I am not looking for sympathy.  I wrote the story twice.  One a real long, detailed one for the county attorney.

I did talk to INS again.  They told me once I get a divorce,my ex-wife will be in an illegal status and then they can do something about it.  I did not mean to leave out some of the details.  I was very culpable in this.  Once I am not her husband, she is an illegal.  But I seriously doubt they are going to be chasing her down.

Throw I wish you would email and tell me a little bit of the circumstances about her family.  Thanks

I am the model of how NOT to go about finding a Latina.  But I do not think my story is rare.  I agree I did ignore some blatant warnings.

Yes, I think I will head down there again.

[Throw]

... in response to Re: Problem with these women..., posted by jo12208 on Jun 19, 2001

JO,  The first time I met her father was at the bullfights in November.  He has tickets for the season and gave myself, Venassa, my friend and his girl tickets to join him and his uncle.  I met him there with her little brother and father and mother.  He was a nice guy about in his late 50's.  Tall like she is with thinning hair.  Though he wore a baseball cap.  The family also cooked me dinner one night.  She lives near Jardin in a apartment on the second floor.  Decent size.  Her mom is very sweet.  Though her easy going nature in my opinon she gets from her dad.

She is real slick.  Almost to nice!  She is definately the ring leader of her click of friends.  She had everyone fooled.  The story of the two of you really is a shocker because of how nice and sweet she was to me and my friends.  She would constantly call me here in the states.  I would think man this chick is aggressive to the point of annoying.  Then when I would arrive in Cali the phone would never stop ringing.  She would call at all hours of the day and night.  Always using a different name or having one of her friends call.  I told her on her 3 separate times to stop calling and that I did not want her as a girlfiend.  But she kept on calling.  This is all the way up to the end of December, begining of January.

When she first attached herself to me at Diego's in July another American named Peter from St Louis who had been to Cali before had dated her.  He told me a story where she called him in St. Louis and told him to meet her in Equador.  I guess she had family there.  Well he packed up and flew to Equador and lo and behold she was a no show.  Later she gave him some story about the bus was hijacked by bandits.  They beat her in the head and leg.  She later showed me scars "volidifying" her story when I questioned her on it.   Obviously they did not beat her good enough.  Peter went on to tell me to be carefull with her.  I did not have her in my sights so I could care less.  But she had other thoughts for me I guess.

Hell, even in January I tried to get my girl a student visa.  She went to Bogata and everything but was turned down.  Well my girlfriend is over at my friends wife house one afternoon (Vanessa and my friends wife knew each other through me) and my girl is upset that she did not get a visa but does not tell Vanessa that she is my girlfriend.  Well Vanessa goes on to tell the two girls how she just got a student visa and is coming to Miami to study enlish and see me.  This obviously did not sit well with my girl who then introduced herself as my girlfriend.  The funny thing is when she did arrive in Miami on your Visa she called me from the airport and then called me again the next day.  She is nuts.

Hey, I feel for you.  She is an absolutely engaging young lady.  It could easily be me telling your story.  But for whatever reason I just did not click with her.  Please know that I never slept with her.  I always felt that if I did that I would never be able to get rid of her.  I hope I have answered your questions about the family.  They are definately not what she described to you.  You know the thing I was most taken by her was her loving and kind nature towards other people and especially children.  That is why your story is so amazing.

[jo12208]

... in response to Re: Re: Problem with these women..., posted by Throw on Jun 19, 2001

I greatly appreciate your response.  I knew some of what you said.  I no Peter personally.  I agree that what I found very attractive about her was her love of children.  Her eyes would light up and she was very good with children.

It is funny how you describe her dad.  She painted just the opposite picture to me.  Oh, well.  I just returned from my lawyer and for $800 I think I will be rid of her.

[Throw]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Problem with these women..., posted by jo12208 on Jun 19, 2001

JO,  Just to follow up.  In the past Vanessa has emailed my friend, so he has her email address.  He read your story, couldn't believe it then translated it to spanish and forwarded it all to her.  So she is aware that "we" are on to her.  

I would let the agency owners aware of who she is.  The Norm's and Bud's of Cali.  Because this is her hunting grounds.  Go on to 2gringos.com, they have an area just for agency owners.  And the owners read it.  Put them on alert.

[pack]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Problem with these women..., posted by Throw on Jun 20, 2001

excellent idea throw the  agency owners need to be made aware of this woman.

[jo12208]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Problem with these women..., posted by Throw on Jun 20, 2001

I know her email address.  I have two questions.  When did you meet her and what did she want when she called March 29 and 30?

I tried the 2gringos site but I did not see what you are referring to.  What are the email addresses of Norm's and Bud's?

Thanks

[Throw]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Problem with these w..., posted by jo12208 on Jun 20, 2001

JO,

Like many things surrounding her.  I have no idea why she called me.  None.  I even asked her and she said that she was just calling to say hello and she was in the states on a student visa and going to Iowa to study "medicine".  She then called the next day to let me know she arrived safe.  I saw the caller ID with your name and I immediately knew she was not what she presented herself to be.  That's when I asked JH to contact you and give you a heads up.  I asked him to email you because I did not know you and I did not want you to think I was trying to cause trouble in your new relationship.  

To answer your question I met her in July 2000.  Also as I had mentioned before, my friend forwarded your email to her last week.  But he only fowarded your story 1, not the other parts.  He was and is so pissed at her.  He wanted to give her a warning shot over the bow so to speak to let her know we are ALL on to her game.  

You know the reason we go there is find somebody special, someone were attracted too who has good morals and values and not the money grubbing "what can you offer me" mentality many AW have.  That is why this is so disheartening.

[Starman]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Problem with these women..., posted by Throw on Jun 20, 2001

Jo,

Waht is this girl's full name? I'm heading to Cali to stay at Norm's place this July and I do not need this kind of trouble.

Thanks,

Tim.

tim.j.nelson@sam.usace.army.mil

[El Diablo]

... in response to Problem with these women..., posted by Throw on Jun 19, 2001


Well said!!

[Pete E]

... in response to Problem with these women..., posted by Throw on Jun 19, 2001

I agree.I hope no one lets these stories stop him,just make him a little more carefull.

Pete