Frank, hopefully some good advice for you.

[LP]

... in response to Re: 20 Minutes???, posted by Oscar on Oct 11, 2002

....are a panic. No offense, but I've four things to say:

1) He's right Oscar, you can't be objective about it.

2) Neither can he. Me thinks you're both infatuated.
Real love after a one or two meetings? Drunken man talk.

3) Both of you are drowning in the largest tub of RediWhip
I've ever seen.

4) Frequent Flyer miles? Lol, you're breakin my heart.

[Oscar]

... in response to You two...., posted by LP on Oct 12, 2002

I don't think you have read my particular posts on this very well LP..  You can certainly speak for yourself, but you cannot speak for me, my feelings and experiences, nor Marks for that matter, but he can speak for himself.

1) I know I am not infatuated and I have stated how I know this.  

2) I never once intimated that I possess a "real love" as you say..  I have said I have feelings, respect and friendship, but I did not say otherwise.  I KNOW that "real love" will take time, I accept that, stated as much and have no illusions about it.

3) I don't like Rediwhip or Cool whip either for that matter.  I have already said I don't feel it is a good place to deal from.  Using the larger head is smarter..

4) And what is wrong with frequent flyer miles?  I realize it might be pretty remedial for you as a pilot to think much of them, but to some of us who don't have or know people who have free fly privlages, it's nice to be able to take a few free trips with them, I don't see why it would be something to look down on or belittle..

[LP]

... in response to Re: You two...., posted by Oscar on Oct 12, 2002

.....big fella, I'm only pullin yer leg.

Actually, you do make more sense than he does at times. Still, I maintain it's tough for the individual involved to be objective. But your logic has some merit and, being the way I am, it's hard to argue with some of it.

Btw, the RediWhp reference was not as you took it. And nothing against frequent fliers, I'd be lost without 'em.

[Oscar]

... in response to East there......, posted by LP on Oct 12, 2002

.

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: Fair nuff..., posted by Oscar on Oct 10, 2002

.

[Frank O]

... in response to Fair nuff..., posted by LP on Oct 10, 2002

I have a friend who made 3 trips coincidentally & it appeared things were ok. There were a lot of red flags in my opinion. It just happened we BOTH wrote the same girl & he wrote me after finding one of my letters. To make a long story short we're friends now, pretty good ones I would say (I stopped writing her as I was turned off by her). Well she MISSED TWO APPOINTMENTS to Warsaw!!! Of course she WILL NEVER go because she is scamming him. He has started to write other girls but is still trying to salvage this (I have no idea why). Anyways I've seen it happen. As for the time thing I don't know. I got engaged to my ex wife 3 weeks after I met her. However I KNEW after my first conversation with her she was it. We were married 7 years. We had no children & she had a great opportunity (career) open for her in Rome, Italy & wanted to move. I didn't so we parted VERY amicably. I later regretted but too late. Anyways just to make an issue of the time factor. As my situation which I know I've gotten a lot of flak for, yes I'm going to see 1 girl. I've written her going on a year & call her regularly. She doesn't ask for money. However we BOTH realize that I can show up & meet her & there is a chance there will be no chemistry. That's IS a leap of faith. One I'm willing to take. I give myself 3 days to find out. If not MY PLAN B IS IN MEXICO. I won't go into detail but my plan b is not living in Ukrains (barring some lady popping out of left field & stealing my heart which I doubt). I'm prepared for it. I'm looking for a wife be it in Luhansk Ukraine or Reynosa Mexico. I'm NOT risking much with the Latina. In Ukraine I guess I'm out the price of my ticket & meals etc. But I don't look at it that way. Anyways I'm rambling but I appreciate EVERYONE's input in my matter. You guys have been more helpful than you might think.

[thesearch]

... in response to Very well written post..., posted by Oscar on Oct 9, 2002

Exactly Oscar,

You ended up with someone that you never had corresponded with versus ending up with one of the ladies that you were initially interested in.

IMHO --- Not wise to go and meet one lady and if a guy does, he has no room to complain if things do not work out.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to /, posted by thesearch on Oct 9, 2002

Greg,

Was this a typo?

You said:

"It turned out that we were just really meant for each other. "

An attractive Lady... you were meant for each other... what happened???

[Pordzhik]

... in response to Frank, hopefully some good advice for yo..., posted by Jack on Oct 8, 2002

Except I don't agree that anybody needs their hand holding all the time, Ukraine really ain't that scary!!

[Jack]

... in response to Good comments, posted by Pordzhik on Oct 9, 2002

Thanks, but I really emphasis seeking a little "hand holding" for one's first trip. And would you not agree?

[Pordzhik]

... in response to Good comments, posted by Pordzhik on Oct 9, 2002

thanks for the paragraphing, makes it much easier to follow.

[BarryM]

... in response to Frank, hopefully some good advice for yo..., posted by Jack on Oct 8, 2002

nt

[ChrisB]

... in response to Frank, hopefully some good advice for yo..., posted by Jack on Oct 8, 2002

I have to say this was some very good advise and food for thought, for anyone in this pursuit. I'm glad that you present the "One Woman" vs. "Many Women" issue in a neutral unbiased point of view.

I wish more men would promote the idea of respecting these women as you suggest. It's good that you point that out.

Chris

[Ryan]

... in response to Frank, hopefully some good advice for yo..., posted by Jack on Oct 8, 2002

Take this guys advice livelong and prosper.  I really have no more advice than this I am the one-woman kind of guy and enjoy my time traveling.  I am not however they guy with a ring in my pocket as I am in no hurry.  I would say don’t be in any hurry just go and have some fun.  In saying this I always get a kick out of you southern boys who go to the Ukraine or Russia in the winter months.  I am from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan so I know what cold is and I believe that these FSU areas can be even colder.  Don’t get off that plane in some big winter coat looking like the Michelin man (That character in the tire commercial) with some big puffy coat and start crying about how you are cold.  You will come over as something less than a man and these women are looking for real men.   Don’t cry about the dirty water or the lack of heat or how you were inconvenienced here or there, again it makes you come across as something less than a man.  Just be a stand up guy and say no problem keep your mouth shut so that your teeth don’t chatter and your voice low so as not stops someone on the streets or attract attention.  Walk with a purpose, make all the decisions, hold your woman close and you will be fine.