Trip report

[Bobby Orr]

I just got back from @dventures@ndromance.com agency in Sochi, Russia.  I got a good deal from the agency to go, ie. much lower than list package price.  I believe you can get a good deal to go since they have alot of anxious girls and not that many clients since September 11.  Call them up and bargain.  Sochi is a beautiful resort city on Russia's part of the Black Sea.  A negative is that it takes a second flight from Moscow to get to, but it is only 2 1/2 more hours once you get the second flight (I had to stay the night in Moscow going to Sochi - coming back I connected right to New York).  If you are a 30 - 45 year old guy I strongly recommend this agency if you are looking for a beautiful girl with or without children. I wrote a bunch of women.  I received some replies and did not receive replies from other women - par for the course ie. same as other agencies.  When I got there the manager had lined up dates for me.  She asked me to go through their books and find some more.  I ended up wanting to meet 21 girls.  My first night and over the next four days I met all 21.  Most looked better than their pictures.  Many liked me.  I was in a really dilemma ie. way more women interested in me than I could handle.  I was only looking for girls without children.  However, for guys into girls with children there are plenty of those as well.  I eventually narrowed it down to 2 girls, one 23 never married and extremely hot to trot with not as much education vs 33 very pretty with alot of education and divorced once.  I ended up selecting the brunette, who looks super for her age, is more mature and more importantly is closer in age to me.  I am 41.  My last experience with the 21 year old from Kharkov was in the back of my mind for sure.  Anyway, I will fill in details tomorrow or in the near future when I get back to real time here in New York.

[Philb]

... in response to Trip report, posted by Bobby Orr on Apr 30, 2002

This was not mentioned, but the Sochi area is an extremely cheap area to visit (even by Russian standards).  I spent a month in a small town north of Sochi last summer.  I could have easily gotten by on $20.00 or $30.00 a day.  This quote includes lodging, meals, and day trips and the like.

I can also vouche for the women there.  There were beautiful women in abundance.

[thesearch]

... in response to Trip report, posted by Bobby Orr on Apr 30, 2002

have a list of all the agencies that are located in Sochi?
If so, could you list them? I only know of one other of which the name slips my mind right now.

[hockeybrain]

... in response to Bobby, do you (or some one else who know..., posted by thesearch on May 1, 2002

Adventures@ndroma@nce.com
a russian romance
Sochi sweethearts

[thesearch]

... in response to Re: Bobby, do you (or some one else who ..., posted by hockeybrain on May 1, 2002

sdf

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Trip report, posted by Bobby Orr on Apr 30, 2002

Hey, I just checked out the site...

www.AdventuresAndRomance.com

There are some beauties there for sure!

Did you end up meeting with any from the web? It sounds like most of your dates came from women who weren't on the web?

(BTW, Patrick lets you give out URLs, as long as the site hasn't been banned)

Could you give us an idea on what "package" you bought, and how much off you got it for? Cause, $3000 for one week of meeting ladies seems quite high...

[hockeybrain]

... in response to AdventuresAndromance.com, posted by MarkInTx on May 1, 2002

I wanted to meet 12 initially ie. wrote 12 off their website.  5 answered me.  When I got there they had dates lined up with 8.  I went through their books and found another 13 to meet.  All 21 wanted to meet me.  So, after seeing that a few were beautiful but not into me and a few others were not as pretty as their pictures I got it down to 4 awesome girls.  Within five days of dating I knocked it down to 2, one a 23 year old awesome looking blond with a body to die for and another a 33 year old brunette with slinky good looks.  The 33 year old just had it together.  Divorced with no children we got along great.  Hopefully this one will work out.  I liked her maturity and heart.  Me being 41, our ages are better.  The Black sea is beautiful and I went up a ski lift 2000 feet to ski.  The area is great.  Right now there is no competition from other men and the agency is eager to get men over.  They were as good as Lifetimepartners or better as an agency, only the area is definitely higher cost (get what you pay for).  The difference is that they are not being trolled by men for years and right now that agency is like the wild west ie. yours for the taking.  Good luck.

Bruce

[Oscar]

... in response to AdventuresAndromance.com, posted by MarkInTx on May 1, 2002

I received a call from Marc Dayton a few months ago, he left a message on my answering machine.  I knew Marc from when he was working for Lifetime Patners in Tver Russia.  When I was there a couple of years ago, he was there taking the videos of the girls.  Later I think he became a partner or something.  Then I had heard that Lifetime Partners had been sold to some Doctor or something.  
In Tver when I was there, I will say I was not impressed with Marc, he was always asking to "borrow" money ($5-$20)from the guys there, including me, and of course he never paid anyone back.  Whatever...

Anyway, in his message, he said that he was contacting past clients and that this new agency (I don't think he's the owner) was "the best".  But he went on to say that this city "Sochi" where the agency is located is like a ghost town except in the summer and that in summer, all these great girls come there to work and to play etc...  So my impression is that many of the women on the web site do not actually live there.  Personally, if this is true, I would be concerned because I would want to meet a womans family and see her in her natural environment where she actually lives.  But that's me.

It looks like there are 239 girls on thier site but aqain, from the message Marc left me, he made it pretty clear that not a lot of these girls actually live there!

The cheapest "package" they have is $3000 for 10 days, which to me is pretty expensive.  Add air to that (summertime fares) and spending money and you are over $5000 pretty easily!

It seems that there is also a $275 membership fee just to join to write the girls..

All I know is that I went to Kiev, Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa for a full 14 days with Jack helping with the details etc.. and my entire trip with rent, spending money, air and newspaper ads etc, was under $2500!  

So I feel this new agency is pretty pricey.. My opinion..

Later,
Oscar

[KenC]

... in response to What I know about this agency-, posted by Oscar on May 1, 2002

Oscar,
When were you in Tver?  I was there in December '98 and again in May '99.  I hear ya on Marc Dayton.  I liked him, but he was a little rough around the edges.  I only had to deal with him while I was in Tver the first time.  I had gone through Clarke Nelson and the other original owner.  I think his name was Mark too.  The other partner moved to CT and was phasing out of the business.  He and Clarke were both great sources for information for me.  I asked a lot of questions and spent hours on the phone with them.  I didn't have the PL board to help me.  LOL.
KenC

[Oscar]

... in response to Re: What I know about this agency-, posted by KenC on May 1, 2002

Ken,

I was there in March of '98.  Yeah, Marc is not a BAD person, I just didn't like that he was always asking to borrow money, which he would never offer to pay back, etc..

I didn't go through Clarke but the other guy (can't even remember his name now but I don't believe it was Mark).  Very nice, had some health problems and I guess then moved back East like you say..  I did know they had bought him out of his share of the business or something.

I believe that the agency was honest, but there was a BIG problem with no-shows and most of the girls were very young (late teens and early 20's)..

I liked Kiev, Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk much better..  

Later,
Oscar

PS, I am SURE we probably dated MANY of the same girls there in Tver! LOL!

[hockeybrain]

... in response to What I know about this agency-, posted by Oscar on May 1, 2002

They are only charging $500 to use their agency ie. it is yours for the taking.  You could not beat the deal I just had.  They did not have me overpay for anything.  They need guys to go so they can get more girls.  What you get is an agency in a beautiful resort area without any competition.  You have to go to a backwater place to get what exists here right now.  My advice, get it while the getting is good.

[hockeybrain]

... in response to What I know about this agency-, posted by Oscar on May 1, 2002

They are only charging $500 to use their agency ie. it is yours for the taking.  You could not beat the deal I just had.  They did not have me overpay for anything.  They need guys to go so they can get more girls.  What you get is an agency in a beautiful resort area without any competition.  You have to go to a backwater place to get what exists here right now.  My advice, get it while the getting is good.

[KenC]

... in response to Trip report, posted by Bobby Orr on Apr 30, 2002

n/t

[wsbill]

... in response to Trip report, posted by Bobby Orr on Apr 30, 2002

Send me some photos and I'll post them.

windshieldsbill@nospam.com

[Bobby Orr]

... in response to Re: Sounds interesting...., posted by wsbill on May 1, 2002

Hopefully, I'll get some to you later today.