good work Jack!!! Lugan Girl follow up

[KenMan]

I was pleased to see that Lugan Girl's internet site has been cleaned up a bit. In particular they have eliminated the Money Transfer Service. I do not know why??? My only complaint was the fact they were saying they were less expensive than Western Union when in fact their prices were more expensive. I thought it was actually a GREAT IDEA to undercut Western Union's fees. Those guys are thieves and scammers themselves LOL. Western Union rates are as follows first $100/$15, $200/$22, $300/$29. I thought if someone offered better rates and dependability they would do very good. Say first $50/$5, $100/$10, $200/$15, $300/$20. Since most people send small amounts charging 10% on the first $100 instead of pawn shop Western Union's 15% would be very helpful to people who need to send money to Ukraine. Anyways nice to see Jack in "action".

[Jack]

... in response to good work Jack!!! Lugan Girl follow up, posted by KenMan on Apr 24, 2002

Thanks for the credit KenMan but I have had nothing to do with any changes to there website.

I never once addressed the issue with Anna or Elena anything to do with any of the services they provided. I only asked for, after receiving your permission, any details they could provide me with communications and events with regards to you and this lady Elena.

I have wondered though Ken, since Elena speaks English and after receiving this ladies address and phone number, did you try to talk to with her?

[KenMan]

... in response to Thanks!, posted by Jack on Apr 24, 2002

It boils down to the word TRUST! Anna had broken the trust and therefore the respect was lowered. I think it would be the girl's RESPONSIBILITY to respond to me and clear up all confusion with an APOLOGY! You see I was the one who already purchased airfare, took time off from work and was planning to travel 34 hours - 10,000 miles ( plane and train ) plus other expensives. I thought it was very irresponsible on their part. I only surround myself with people who have CLASS and self-respect for themselves and others. I imagine that is why nobody has burned me in life. I will not let it happen! Actions mean everything!!! So if she would have written an email saying she was sorry for the confusion and that she would like to write to me from a cafe or something I would know ( maybe? ) she was for real. I was raised by the best!!! and I expect it from others... you know most of this stuff about Ukraine women is all hype.

[Paci]

... in response to Jack....., posted by KenMan on Apr 24, 2002

If had had that attitude I would never been happily married today. The world isn't perfect. I always hope for the best from myself. I'm happy if others simply are themselves, because that's real.

In my short experience from marriage one of the first things to get rid of is this "me-myself-and-I am right, and you should apologies" attitude. Convert it to a "I'm human and you're human, let's communicate" and you got yourself a good start.

[Richard]

... in response to Jack....., posted by KenMan on Apr 24, 2002

Perhaps Elena is not aware of your view of what happened?  The reason I ask is that one of the emails that was posted in public was from Elena asking why you had stopped communicating with her. Perhaps if you tell  her why, she will clear things up with you.  (Maybe I am wrong and she does know why you stopped writing.)

[KenMan]

... in response to Clearing up confussion, posted by Richard on Apr 24, 2002

My view is that last fall for a goof I would take a holiday and see what Ukraine was like. I like to trade stocks during the day and sometimes when I need a break I surf the banners for International Women. I thought I could meet some people on the internet and have a good time. I did all of this. Unfortunetly most of the women I met ( expect for one ) through friendfinder and absolute agency all had Marriage Agency connections. That was not my intention to use a marriage agency. Afterwards I thought I might go back again this Spring. The number one criteria was I needed to meet and travel with someone who communicated in English. In other words NO AGENCIES and especially NO INTERPRETERS! As far as Elena if she was interested she would have made it known. She didn't. Personally I do not believe she wrote all those letters. Especially the one asking why I stopped communicating with her. That was the set-up for a Woman's Day gift. If I am wrong it is really not that big of a deal. I have contact with many nice attractive women where I live. I am not as desperate or delusional ( or as old ) as most of the croonies who post here. Right now I want to build a house, make more money trading stocks and maybe I will go back this fall?

[BarryM]

... in response to Richard, posted by KenMan on Apr 24, 2002

and that's why you are getting slammed on here. Can't you figure it out? I remember the chess school rant you made last year. Same stupid pattern of anal me-me-me mentality. Get real.

It seems that the message you are putting here is that you don't need a RW/UW. I agree. I don't think you should marry a RW/UW. If you have no problems with AW, then marry one of them.

Then the issue becomes, why are you still posting here? Why do you bother. Isn't it time to move on? Does your ego find it necessary to keep hashing it out on here when it has become a moot point?

-blm

[KenMan]

... in response to Kenman, you're full of yourself...., posted by BarryM on Apr 25, 2002

Oh, Barry Weary... and your thousand+ post. Isn't it time you went back to church? I hear the unothodox priests calling your name :-)

[DE]

... in response to Richard, posted by KenMan on Apr 24, 2002

"If I am wrong it is really not that big of a deal."  Nothing like having your heart into it!  I guess that only comes after she spends the next thirty years scrubbing the marble floors and wiping down the pine doors.  

[Oscar]

... in response to Richard, posted by KenMan on Apr 24, 2002

I think he meant "cronies" for all of us who still have our eyesite at our desperate and advanced age... LOL!

Oh brother...

[Del]

... in response to Jack....., posted by KenMan on Apr 24, 2002

KenMan,

I've followed your rant for too long to remain silent here. You are appearing totally 'intolerant', and incapable of accepting another’s “differences”.

It seems to me that you are placing your own “expectations” upon others without first having fully and clearly established the mutual agreement and acceptance of them. To my mind this is somewhat self-delusional!

When you state that, “I only surround myself with people who have CLASS and self-respect for themselves and others.”, are you not in truth saying that you are unable and/or unwilling to accept another as he/she is?

Moreover, you are placing your values and expectations upon another who has a very different “history’ than you do, and thus by extension, you are devaluating their cultural and historical background.

Perhaps you are not ready to allow another person of a different culture or background into your life?

[KenMan]

... in response to Re: Jack....., posted by Del on Apr 24, 2002

You know what they say about opinions? Well that is what I think about yours. This is a little ol' message board on the internet. Take it for what it is. Perhaps you take it much too seriously??? I don't :-)

[Oscar]

... in response to Del, posted by KenMan on Apr 24, 2002

Yeah, you don't take it seriously and that's why you have posted here ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY SIX TIMES (according to your profile)! LOL!  

Give us a break...

[DE]

... in response to Re: Del, posted by Oscar on Apr 24, 2002

[Mike]

... in response to good work Jack!!! Lugan Girl follow up, posted by KenMan on Apr 24, 2002

What could a person do that has reliable people here and overseas do to transfer money cheaply for others? Maybe set up a paypal sight and send a debit card to the one you trust to remove the cash? This would only be for smaller amounts though huh?
Mike