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Sparky
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« on: March 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

Just wondering if there is any study on how many of these marriages last? Whats it compared to AM/AW marriages? I am just getting started actively pursuing meeting Latina women, but every now and then get a little gun shy. I know in my heart this is what I wanna pursue(even sent some prayers to the big guy in the sky about it).
Oh also there was some discussion earlier about why mexican women don't use agencies and what not. I asked some Mexican friends of mine about this. If you wanna hear the response I will tell you but don't wanna get another war started.(btw I am not just looking to Mexico but have some good leads there. I would like to try writing some ladies in Colombia to. Whats the best way to do this?).
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Pete E
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to How many last, posted by Sparky on Mar 23, 2002

I have never seen statistics on how many of these marriages last.From the posts it would seem most are successfull,but people are more likely to report success than failure.Also most of the marriages are fairly new."Last" would seem to require some type of a time frame.
There are many problems inherent in the process.The economic motivation of the women,the usually fairly fast marriage,the language problems,the tendency for guys to lose their heads and good judgement when they get involved with a beautifull woman.But I do believe a traditional latin women will be more loyal and a better bet than her US counterpart.
I think if a guy is carefull and chooses a wife of character who loves him the chances of it lasting are very high.Take a good look at her family relationships also.If they are healthy that is a good sign.There should be no improperly explained mysteries.Listen to your intuition.If a guys goes for a beautifull girl even though red flags abound right away the marriage will almost surely fail.The LATIN-WOMEN-L@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU list has a recent horror story that has been played out for months with the guys wife leaving him for another guy as soon as she got through 2 years here.He overlooked a tremendous number of red flags and thats what he got.Apparently the sex was good and she kept telling him she loved him even though her actions said just the opposite.2 years and bingo,the obvious truth came out.
I say make your own good odds with wise choices.The only statistic that really counts is your own.

Pete

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El Diablo
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to How many last, posted by Sparky on Mar 23, 2002


If there ever is a study it needs to look at these marriages over time, not a year or two but at least 5 to 10 years.  What I've seen in my own limited experiences is that quite a few marriages fail quickly, within the first 6 months to a year.  This is understandable, the couples don't know each other particularly well before the marriage and so that first period together in the United States is the first  real get to know each other period.  On top of that, the women is in a new country, may not speak the language, and these along with other reasons make that first year particularly difficult.  I don't have any evidence but if a couple can survive the first year or so the divorce rate would probably even out and be consistent with the rate of the overall population.

El Diablo

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pack
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to How many last, posted by Sparky on Mar 23, 2002

hi sparky, i dont think there are any actual studies done on this subject or any reliable statistics.
however, from what i have seen,read, heard is that a large number of these marriages do not last.
it is unfortunate but but more seem to fail than succeed.
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FredFresno
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to How many last, posted by Sparky on Mar 23, 2002

I’ve wondered about that for a while, and my impression is that dependable data on that question just aren’t out there.  You get a lot of anecdotal information from forums like this, a lot of it discouraging.  I think that many who are successful at this endeavor move on and don’t bother with a forum like this (with some notable exceptions!).  Here are a few relevant items:

"Todo que el hombre sembrare, eso también segará."  (See Galatians 6:7 for the translation)

"Luck is the most important element, and you make you own luck."--anon.

"The best laid schemes o’ mice an' men/Gang aft a-gley"--Robert Burns

"Ships are safe in the harbor, but that’s not what ships are built for."--anon.

About writing--when I started trying that, one of the Bogota agencies (ODEE) offered to host biographical and contact information for their ladies for free.  I said that I understood Spanish, which was a distinct exaggeration.  I received a ton of email, much of it in Spanish.  As a result my efforts to learn Spanish were pushed along.  Of course I came up with a "thanks but no thanks" form reply.  I kept in touch with a few of these ladies--actually it dwindled down to 2--and eventually went down to visit them.  As it happened the ladies I had kept in touch with were distinctly middle class.  That was logical in retrospect.  A poor girl wouldn’t have had the time or money to keep email correspondence with someone who was not coming down soon, and a rich girl would have had more interesting things to do with her time and money.  But obviously there are exceptions to all generalizations.  

As it happens, I haven’t kept in touch with these original two email contacts, but I have kept in touch with others than I met through them.  One thing I notice (as with DaveyRich's post) is that even guys who start out at agencies often end up doing a certain amount of traditional networking (as you're doing with your Mexican friends).  The middle class girls will sometimes get cold feet on you.  That’s not a bad thing--better that it should happen down there rather than up here.  Again, the result from my writing experience is that, if I were starting today from scratch, I’d only write women who I might see face-to-face within 3-6 weeks.  This would, of course, mean targeting your letters to selected geographical locations and not writing to women in, say, all of Colombia.

I would like to hear what your Mexican friends have to say about agencies.  I wouldn’t be concerned about getting a war started, but if you are concerned about it then please email the remarks to my address (given with this post).

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DaveyRich1
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to How many last, posted by Sparky on Mar 23, 2002

Sparky,
I just read your post and I wanted to throw my 2 cents in. I have been married to a colombian for 6 months. The girl I married was my translator for 2 weeks after spending every day with her for 10 days I asked her out.She speaks about 70 % English that was a positive.I met a friend in colombia who lives 200 miles from me in Tennessee.His girl spoke no English at first they were married 1 week before us he is still very happy.I took a guy to be in my wedding he is 57 he meet one of my wifes friends he asked her to visit him in the USA she had a tourist visa she just filed for an extension her 6 months were up she is 29 they get along great she spoke no English. My friend who married before me is 36 his wife is 23. I am 39 my wife is 26.It is basically the same as looking for someone here find someone you have things in common with the beauty last for about 6 months then you had better have some common interest I went to Cali 6 times I used Latin Love,Ms Gringritos,Latin Best,Latin Encounters, and Ricardos Colombian Girls.Everyone has their own favorite Latin Love is in a new place now and Ms gringritos has closed Latin Best Luz was full and I paid $50 dollars for a week she spent more time with the other Guys and had no translators. Latin encounters in my opinion has the most to chose from and Margoroth has a good staff She threw 2 parties with about 60 girls to 5 gringos Some people do not like the big difference but you see what they really look like opposed to a picture all vets know what I am talking about here plus you make eye contact and that lets you know if there is interest.Last was All Colombian Girls it is operated by Magoroths ex-husband Ricardo I have heard him called the Colombian Hugh Hefner he also has a great secretary He says he can get you an appointment with any of Margoroths girls if you go at the right time they are on good terms with each other they will throw parties together.Last but not least just go you have many types of people on this board and they give great advice but it is nothing compared to just going
                   GOOD LUCK
                          DAVE
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