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Author Topic: Black Guy here who is or has been involved?  (Read 9510 times)
Blackguy
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« on: December 18, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

Is there any black guy here who has been or is involved with a lady from eastern europe? Maybe you can write directly to me at blackswede@nospam.com.
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Vox
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Black Guy here who is or has been involv..., posted by Blackguy on Dec 18, 2001

More on the issue.
In all honesty I don’t understand why sometimes blacks, Arabs, and other non-Europeans go to E.E., or Russia and look for a woman, as if the women weren't exceeding the number of the men in their respective races, especially after some very bad characters tried some very dirty work, seducing and generally taking advantage of some rare cases when the ladies there that were credulous to go for it!
As if getting a woman of a different race is the same as tasting a new, different dish from some new, foreign restaurant.
I personally know of such cases, very rare, with Africans, Arabs, Palestinians, you name it, and the ladies were burned real well and for the rest of their lives when they were foolish to try this and believed one stupid lie in moment of weakness.
How long is it going to be that these other races' ego will continue to be so dependent, so depleted that only capturing a white woman will fulfill that, carrying around as a some sort of trophy?
Or are the white women so superior that they will forever be the ultimate thrill, the ultimate goal, for such people?
What is this obsession with getting a white woman when all that is white (European) is mocked and put down by the same other races which are desire her?
What's wrong with those other races' women? They are not good enough, they will never measure up?
And believe me they are despised over there for that, and rightly so, they got a bad reputation because they worked hard to earned it, and because of how they treated those ladies. I speak from experience, from hard cases.
In E.E. people are very upfront and direct about this (unlike the sissies here), they don't care for any phoney baloney, silly, multicultural Euro(American)-trash, or PC, or whatever you want to call it, and why should they?
Although most E.E. ladies are sane enough to stay away from such silly deals still some don't know all that's going on around and fall prey only to regret it later.
Let's face it, mongrelism didn't accomplish anything good, are you still doubting that?
And it’s because of that among many other crazy ideas which some idiots disseminated in this society that now normal American men can not find a good, normal wife among the natives!
Unlike the too PC-ed, naive, and many times indifferent Americans, all good E.E. and Russian men are protective of other ladies, and try to care and keep them out of trouble.
Sorry for coming on strong on this but I'm one guy who likes to speak his mind and to use the freedom of dissent when the reality and conditions require.
It’s clear racism when people of one race try to take advantage of members of another race, as I mentioned above, as well as not even caring for his own race.
To just pull it under the rug, this issue, is neither manly nor fair justice.
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JLA
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to More on this, posted by Vox on Dec 19, 2001

the "exotic" has a great deal of appeal among both men and women of all races.  

Consider how many white AM go to Asia for a bride.  I believe that were it not for the "evil ophressor" stigma of white American men, you would probably see as many white man-black woman couples as the reverse.  In fact we're starting to see some now (I can think of two college friends of mine as examples).  In another generation, it will be more common perhaps.  

Nature abhors in-breeding.  This may be why.  

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Vox
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Black Guy here who is or has been involv..., posted by Blackguy on Dec 18, 2001

The most reasonable thing to do is to go and search the archives, but most of the new people seem to like to simply plunk a question out of the blue and skip the work.
I repost here now some thoughts on this subject with some new touches, the original is somewhere in the archives.
If you wouldn’t know all the facts from the beginning or ignore them, you would later come back here and scream out loud how badly you were schemed, scammed, and so on, and we already have enough of that here, though most bring it on themselves because of their approach or neglect of some serious advise or whatever.
So you may want to heed some advice unless your life lacks some real jarring experiences.
In respect to this particular type of women, the Russian (Ukrainian, or generally E.E.) women, you are not on an easy path at all.
Or to put it more clearly, more directly, you pretty much waste your time if you try the Russian approach and look for a Russian lady.
To marry successfully an Eastern European woman takes a lot of effort, some spending, many changes on one’s part, it’s not that easy at all.
Russian women may seem to be the craze, the fad now, but they are not a panacea for any male problem, for any marriage failure men have.
Russian women are not some remedial medication, a quick fix, a necessary ingredient for all the marriages in the world from now on.
Neither are they some sort of easy, cheap commodity for any guy from just anywhere who wants to get fixed quickly.
Just traveling to Russia may not be for the dreamy people most of the times.
What’s wrong with black ladies anyway? It’s something you would be much more adjusted to anyway.
I personally find it strange when people insist on going for someone of a different race, and I have my own reasons, my doubts and suspicious since I witnessed some very negative experiences.
I also think that any one race has its first responsibilities for its own.
But aside from that I never heard of any one from E.E. who would want to marry a totally different race wholeheartedly, it’s extremely unusual, very, very unlikely.
They may be desperate but not foolhardy.
They may go for something different and then once they realize it s not for them, nothing will stop them from going back just as quickly.
They face a certain situation at home and they try to escape that, for them to go for a marriage with someone who comes from a background where women are even worse treated would be absurd, they will just not do that.
E. European women, and especially the Russian ones, have seen all the problems that they had with other races in former USSR, and they will stay away from anything different. They just don’t go for that.
They have a sweet tooth for the American white male because of a certain perception they have about. Generally they are very peculiar in their taste.
For instance they would not generally go for Nordic people, because those are very cold emotionally, and it’s even somehow accepted generally that marriages between Scandinavians and Russians are not lasting, (or Germans, though that may be different) because of emotional incompatibility.
They have fine tastes, are very well cultured, strong opinions and do not look with much interest to other cultures.
They even have a very strong aversion toward the West and its culture, and with a good reason (in their view).
If you really get to know them well they are not into internationalism, but very clannish, most like their own values and all good things from their culture and do not want to change. (And why would they?)
Russians really don’t care at all about all the political correctness madness that goes around anywhere else (they have seen worse under the communist propaganda and are immune to it) or all the unusual interracial stuff, in that regard they are not as brainwashed as others and think for themselves.
If you would find someone who would agree to that, to try this combination, I would be very, very suspicious, they will do it for one purpose only, to get out, and very soon they will leave.
Few people realize that those women can be the sharpest, quickest minds, if they really want to cheat, few people can measure up to them. They are sharp, intelligent, extremely experienced, they lived in the worst conditions you can imagine, what they don’t know they can learn quickly, it’s hard to be a match to them. The best is not to be their enemy.
They can play along and do all they want but if their agenda is different than yours, forget about.
For instance, NY Police Department is no match for the Russian mafia in NY, Italian mafia is a child’s game compared with what the Russians come up with. MBA and PH in economics, they know how to cook the books, electronics specialists, steel muscles of Olympic performance, wills tempered in the Gulag, prison doesn’t scare them … etc, no wonder they are so successful.
If they mind is not into it they can be a serious challenge.
If they are not sincere they can cheat anything and anybody. (And the sincere ones as I said, do not go for that.)
Do I know them? Yes, very well, I was born and raised in E.E.)
Besides, there is enough misunderstanding, lack of proper information used by the guys and all kinds of wrong approaches with the American (white) men already, enough complaints and lamentation, just read these board, don’t add your sorrows to the stream.
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Blackswede
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Definitely the wrong place to be!!!, posted by Vox on Dec 19, 2001

What is wrong? Is it wrong to marry someone you are interessted in? Is it wrong to marry outside your race? You are speaking as if a black man will be killed for marrying a russian lady. I know of russian ladies marrying black men...
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LP
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Black Guy here who is or has been involv..., posted by Blackguy on Dec 18, 2001

....look at the RWA list and review the Keith/Kat story and look at their home pages.
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Charles
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Black Guy here who is or has been involv..., posted by Blackguy on Dec 18, 2001

Don't know of any.  Blacks are almost non-existent in the FSU.  It was quite a shock for my wife when she arrived in the Atlanta airport.  My guess is your best bet would be women in Moscow or St. Petersburg that are more westernized than other areas.
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Jimmy
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Black Guy here who is or has been in..., posted by Charles on Dec 18, 2001

I have seen a few African and American blacks looking for ladies in Kiev and have discussed this issue with locals.  The black man is a not very well accepted here and has been ridiculed and harassed.  Some locals find them a novelty and are somewhat curious.  I would venture to say from my experience that you would be embarking on a area of concern for your safety if you come here to acquire a RW.  I am an American that has many black friends and am not a racist.

I advise you to look elsewhere for a wife.  Russian men have looked the other way when white foreigners date their women.  I don't think it will that way if many black men show up in Ukraine to do the same thing.  Believe me, the police will not get involved and you will not hear much about it in the Ukrainian newspaper if an incident where to occur.

It is hard enough for a white foreign man to get accepted in the Ukrianian community.  I can't imagine the black or yellow having an easier time doing it.  Be careful with your pursuit.

The US Embassy in Kiev has issued warnings to black US citizens concerning their safety when visiting Ukraine.  I am not the only one that knows this danger.


Best Regards,

Jimmy
Ukraine, Kiev Oblast

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BubbaGump
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Black Guy here who is or has bee..., posted by Jimmy on Dec 19, 2001

We had a black guy on our tour and the women strongly criticised the woman that dated him according to my translator.  Russians seem to harbor a lot of prejudice toward their own ethnic minorities even when they're white.  I've read or heard several comments to that effect.
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