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If you're a newbie, and considering to visit a marriage agency to look for a wife, becareful with the crowd of fellas you bump into during your search.

It's ok if you want to marry a woman that is good looking and/or maybe a little younger. That's fine.

As a warning, just keep in mind that some guys and girls have lost their commonsense during their search; and probably could do nothing but lead a decent, but new person astray. This goes for both men and women.

I don't want to sound self-rightous. That's not my intent. I just want to tell the truth because I've always been an upfront person all my life.

Aaron

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

Spewing his Dr. Phil bulls@it.  It is nice to know that your knowledge of Colombian women and all the agencies is so extensive. You must have been to Colombia many, many times.
When is your next trip?  Or are you going to go back to school to become a real doctor?

... in response to Re: To Dr. Aasswipe, posted by A1A on Feb 27, 2005

I think he needs to check up on that time share he bought he heard a rumor
there might be some whoring around going down at the pool he is is to talk all
the men down.

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

one thing Aaron, you're consistent... Same song, different day...

I also give you about 3 weeks before you insult someones novia / esposa AGAIN and you have your sorry ass banned AGAIN...

PS: You still celibate??? There is a cure for that you know...

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

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You are not fooling anyone. You are really a feminazi in disguise.  We all know it. Loser.

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

Or thinks like one anyway.  A true fem-i-nazi mindset.
God forbid men should chase skirts and have fun.

Remember....you are not allowed tohave fun........

Just be happy with your short haired fat bitch...

And do not come to Colombia.. the women are ugly!!!

... in response to Sincere gentlemen.. Aron is an American ..., posted by Heat on Feb 26, 2005

Darla Sue weigh near 250 I reckin.   she come over and git neked for me an my brothers.  we puts ol motor oil all over her and go to town.  heck, it is like wrestlin a greased hog in a mud puddel.  Skeeter my brother say it even better.  whiles my other brother Lil Skeeter say he got no prefrince.  

yall try and grab som of that fat and yell squeel piggy!!  and she duz too!!  she make more noise than skinnin a live wildcat with a chane saw.

yall see that movie Deliverince?  first time I seen it I thought it waz one of thos dockumentries bout North Georgea. all my kin is in that movie.  Heck, those fancy Holywood folk just tell us to be ourselfs.  we didt know we supose to git paid for a movie.  

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

Based on your post, you might want to fall back and regroup in your thinking, because:

"It's ok if you want to marry a woman that is good looking and/or maybe a little younger. That's fine."
Ok, good, I'm glad you cleared that up for us.  Perhaps you could make a list of accaeptable and unnacceptable behavior, since most of us here have no sense of such things.

"I don't want to sound self-rightous."
You are being so...

"That's not my intent."
Great, so you are sub-consciously self-righteous,  I think thats actually worse.

"I just want to tell the truth because I've always been an upfront person all my life."
Thats even more self-righteous, since your truth (and preferences) speak only for you.

The truth is most men, encountering available and pleasant (what a concept!) foreign females, will embark on some skirt-chasing.  The extent of this is variable...and it seems that divorced men are the worst (best!) at it.  Nothing like a few years of solitary confinement to make you appreciate the sunshine.

If you really want to be a shepherd, you might find goats more  predictable than 'newbies'.  Goats also have a higher spot price in the market than 'newbie pelts'.

Ciao

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

The Peruvian Andes might be a suitable starting place for your own bride search.  You seem already naturally acclimatized to such altitudes, judging by the lofty manner in which you hand down advice to the lurking newbs.

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

Doc,

I must admit that I agree with you somewhat. I have only been to Colombia once last Sept. in Baq, and I saw a few of the guys jumping the gun, but to each his own. I went down there with the plan to meet several women, narrow it down to a handful I felt the most chemistry and compatibility with, and go from there. I ended up keeping in contact with four, but after a few weeks I decided to focus on one (Zayne), and we have been getting to know each other through emails and phone calls. I am going back March 22nd to see her and meet her family, and then we'll see where this leads. We are both excited about seeing each other again but realize we have only been together in person for a couple of days back in Sept., so we have much to learn.

I would like to know your story, or part of it anyway - I think that is how you could be most helpful to this board, relating your own experiences to help us understand why you feel the way you do about certain things. It seems as if you have rubbed some guys the wrong way, but that doesn't bother me - I find your posts more interesting than another ad nauseam post about misspelled words (yawn).

... in response to Re: To sincere gentlemen that READ the b..., posted by Serenade on Feb 26, 2005

No need to call me Doc.. Just use Aaron. I hope everything works out with your lady friend.

I found out on my first trip the nature of this process. From my experience, a guy or gal can never be too cautious, too private, and show too much self-respect when courting someone. Also, a big mistake a person can make is to listen to outside chatter from other people. If you want and have a girlfriend, focus on her totally and completely. No one else. There's no need to invite other people into your own business, or listen to what other's are doing. This is a very good approach when searching in the agencies, and it really is how many sincere latinas approach their relationships.

Aaron

... in response to Thanks Serenade..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 27, 2005

"No need to call me Doc.. Just use Aaron"

Then why do you call yourself Doc?  Are you in the clinic?

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

I really think people should stop taking everything so personal.  If you think someone is arrogant, or someone is this or that, I think that should be kept to yourself.  All this bickering amoung people really takes away from the point of this website.  To people new to this website, they come and see these pointless messages, and will never look here again.  Nothing of substance is posted when people are insulting one another.  

Maybe I will get criticized for this post?  I guess I will wait and see.  I believe that if someone acts like an idiot here, the best thing to do is ignore them.

Just my two cents.

Brandon

... in response to THIS IS DUMB, posted by Brandon2253 on Feb 25, 2005

Brandon, this is not a criticism, but there are varying levels of posters here. It makes perfect sense that while some are asking questions and looking for answers, there are others that may be a little further along that have other things to discuss while still enjoying the comaraderie of a select few who have traveled (or are still travelling) the same or a similar path. You don't need a forum for newbies...all you need is a FAQ or an email address for online support at Latinas R'Us...A forum is by design an area for discussion, and when discussions are presented, so to are opinions, and everyone has one. What may seem dumb to you may have made perfect sense to the person who posted it, and others wil respond to it for their own reasons as well. What do you expect the people who have been doing this for years to do while patiently waiting to answer your questions? Whatever they want within the confines of the rules and regulations of the forum. "Can't we all just get along?" sounds great, but if we did all the time, there wouldn't be many people here answering those "newbie" questions, (because that would be pretty boring) now would there? Part of the release of tension of waiting for wives and girlfriends to get here is in some of those seemingly silly arguments...

... in response to Re: THIS IS DUMB, posted by soltero on Feb 25, 2005

Yes, I guess you could say I am a newbie.  But I am an atypical newbie.  I will be in Medellin y Manizales March 17- March 27 and I will post reports if that is what people desire.  I just think that some of the arguments are ridiculously ridiculous (Im a little borracho at the moment).  Anyways, I cant wait for my trip, and I have posted a few questions and I thank people for their replies.  I just seems like lately people have gotten really far from the point of this board.  Thanks to everyone!
Brandon

... in response to Re: Re: THIS IS DUMB, posted by Brandon2253 on Feb 26, 2005

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Soltero you made a very good point that was totally applicable to the nature of public forums.

Brandon enjoy your trip.

The other issue I would like to bring up, is as follows:

The MOB process started as men searching for wives, using postal mail, then later marriage agencies and internet profiles.

With the internet becoming available and computers becoming cheaper, more and more men and women from all walks of life have become exposed to this way of meeting people. This can be a good and bad thing.

In my opinion, this has resulted in blurring the line between what is considered decent respectable ways of meeting people versus inappropriate ways of meeting people - and it leads to people trying both kinds of avenues. This is not good for sincere people looking to meet decent people of quality, and many women in the Cali agencies are becoming turned off. What's happened is that there are many guys who are into sex tourism visiting agencies, and many sex workers as members, all portraying as if they are sincerely looking for lifetime partners.
Also, there is this new trend of gringos owning modeling agencies in Cali, and securing modeling visas for girls !!! Come on, everyone knows that modeling has always been a sugar coat for prostitution. No one's dumb.  
In my opinion, this latin board has shifted far from it's purpose as a resource for helping men find latin WIVES.

Now, because of a CLICK of individuals who stay on here day after day, and "think they own the board," the latin board has become a place to discuss the following:

1.) Colombian apartments,
2.) Shooting photos of Colombian models in gringos' apartments
3.) Batman's house
4.) Gringo owned modeling agencies
5.) Calipro's expertise
6.) Malandro's antics
7.) Pete's number one girl that changes by the week
8.) etc. etc. etc.

The drawback is that it attracts the wrong type of people, and it can mislead others with less experience.

Aaron

... in response to To Soltero and Brandon..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 27, 2005

What's a "CLICK of individuals"? Did you learn that one in school?

Click, click, click... ROFLMAO!

... in response to To Soltero and Brandon..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 27, 2005

"...this latin board has shifted far from it's purpose as a resource for helping men find latin WIVES."

It's never moved.  You've "shifted."

There are ALWAYS discussions here about K-1/K-3/CR-1 visa processes, visa timelines, travel visa requirements, agencies, airline flights, retirement in a spouse's country, real estate in a foreign country, international calling cards, greeting card sites, "red flags," Spanish/English translation, trip reports, hotel rates, gift-buying tips, romantic destinations, civil marriage requirements, etc. etc.  

WHERE would someone headed abroad find such stuff??      FIRST HAND knowledge, the inside scoop, strait from the horse's mouth...people who've been to these places, met the women, and--in many cases--married one of them.  

Maybe these sites would be more suitable for you:

Adopt yourself a sheep:
http://www.sheepemporium.com/

Or discover how "hip" it is to remain alone:
http://quirkyalone.net/qa/

... in response to Dr. Phil, posted by doombug on Feb 28, 2005

There are ALWAYS discussions here about:

1 K-1/K-3/CR-1 visa processes--we doon need no stinking VISAS (unless of course, we want our latin wife to actually live with us)

2 visa timelines--hey, since we doon need no stinking visa  (see above), then we obviously don't CARE how long it would take to obtain one

3 travel visa requirements--there you go with that visa crap again--oh, this time you mean for the USA citizen to enter HER country...who cares? Darn third world places got no right to keep US out of their stinking country, right, boys?

4 agencies--I am a) a little shy b) not an experienced world traveler c) can't speak the language d) some combination of the above ---but nah, don't need no help, not ME

5 airline flights--airplanes are for sissy boys, a REAL man would obtain his seaman's card and work his way there as a deck hand--or hitchhike all the way through Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras etc.

6 retirement in a spouse's country--Who on earth ever heard of an American doing such a foolish thing as retiring in a foreign country?

7 real estate in a foreign country--don't need it, since (see above) no gringo would ever consider actually living in her country, even if a) your pension money goes 5 times as far, b) she has family there, and you don't have any family here c) (worst of all) it  might make her happy

8) international calling cards--a) not me, I always pay full AT&T operator assisted person to person rates. b)I have no occasion to call her while we are courting and/or waiting for her visa (oh, wait, don't need no stinking visa, see above) c) Sure as hell, I'm not going to let her call her parents after she's up here

9) greeting card sites,-- you mean send her a card for like Valentine, her birthday and Christmas? What the heck for?

10) "red flags,--Aint no more red flags--Mr. Gorbecheiv (spelling?) done tore down that wall, didn't you get the word?

11) Spanish/English translation a) Its more fun if neither of you knows what the other is saying b) She'll learn MY language, or ELSE c) I don't want to ever talk with the rest of her family anyway, it's not like they actaully deserve that respect or even that they just might be interesting people

12) trip reports--never ask anybody who's had first hand experience, it just makes you look ignorant and foolish and gives them a chance to brag at your expense

13)hotel rates--what do I care how much a hotel costs? a) my family name is Rockefeller b) I'm quite experienced at living on the street

14) gift-buying tips--never buy her anything a)  that makes her feel 'special' b) hard to obtain and/or too expensive in her country c) that might make her happy that you put so much though and effort into it

15) romantic destinations--Oh, com'on, a coke and a burger will do just fine for our first date--I might even spring for super size fries the night I 'pop the question'

16) civil marriage requirements--hey, them durn ol ferener laws don't apply to ME, I'll just walk up to the first JP or preacher we come acrost and say 'Me and the little lady want to get hitched'.

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Yep, aint nothin on this list that a man interested in marrying a foreign lady would have the remotest need to know or even care about.........(uh, most of you guys DO recognize satire when you see it, right?)

... in response to And that's what wrong with this board, posted by Michael B on Feb 28, 2005

Great stuff!

... in response to Re: And that's what wrong with this boar..., posted by doombug on Mar 1, 2005

great information

beattledog

... in response to To Soltero and Brandon..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 27, 2005

I have only several things to say to you Doc (choke) I think you forgot to add
some things to your post... How about the idiot that use to post about girls
bubble butts how much you like them? How about the soap opera you were in
down in Cali you know the one with the girl who had a very big drug dealer after
her and you wanted to rescue her . What ever happened to that sweet girl
anyway? Living in your timeshare? There is a alot more to add if need be, GET
OFF YOUR SOAP BOX CLOWN!!!

... in response to To Soltero and Brandon..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 27, 2005

This is in no way meant to be an insult, just out of curiosity, what did you score on your SAT's?  BTW, I partly agree with what you said.

... in response to Re: To Soltero and Brandon..., posted by Brandon2253 on Feb 27, 2005

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... in response to Hi Brandon, that's private information. ..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 27, 2005

I'll pay you $40,000 to know the answer.

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

we heer down south dont think bout nutin mo than a girls titties an all.  I member when I waz bout 10 an mama waz 23.  I sed dang mama you a ripe Georgea peech!!!  for yall yankies, that mean shez pretty hellfire fine for an ol lady.  hell, I dont blame granpa t'all!!!

suthern girls dress fine like them spanic chiks.  damn shame so meny fat ones showin them big bellies.  but there is som fine suthern bells heer in Dicksie.  Check out that womens of Wall Mart calandar, an yall see what I mean.

... in response to Golly, yall peeple in them blu states su..., posted by Malandro on Feb 25, 2005

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you're sho'nuff weak.

... in response to Malandro, I pulled your chain. , posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

I beg to differ, DA...That was the funniest thing I read all week...

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

it the point of this post.  This is at best redundant.  

Also, I don't think many people care how much any of us say we earn.

... in response to To sincere gentlemen that READ the board..., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005


Doc, you might want to do spell check.  It's "self-righteous".

... in response to Re: To sincere gentlemen that READ the b..., posted by pablo on Feb 25, 2005

I wrote fifteen pages of notes today for a $40,000 USD meeting that I planned. Can you imagine the number of mispellings in my notes trying to follow all the other doctors in the room who speak 50 words a minute?

Grow up Pab.

Peace.

... in response to You're an excellent speller., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

I wrote fifteen pages of notes today for a $40,000 USD meeting that I planned""

Bragging?  You grow up!  Quit telling lies.

... in response to You're an excellent speller., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

"I wrote fifteen pages of notes today for a $40,000 USD meeting that I planned"
Why do these losers always find their way onto these type of websites.
Too funny!

... in response to You're an excellent speller., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005


Thanks Doc, but I have to admit I use spell check when in doubt.  You don't have a clue as to why I would point out those couple spelling errors, do you?  I've never corrected anyone's spelling on the forum but the way you came across in your post below was awful high and mighty.

Peace too.

... in response to Re: You're an excellent speller., posted by pablo on Feb 25, 2005

[This message has been edited by DavidMN]

Aaron - What's with this "doctor" stuff and throwing out baloney about how much a meeting cost and how many other "doctors" were there? Big deal, who cares?

If I recall your posts from a year or two ago you received a PhD, not a medical degree. Most PhD holders (at least in the circles I travel in) are considered pretentious if they insist on being addressed as "Doctor." A student addressing a college professor might be an exception, but this is the anonymous internet and we're not your students.

I believe there is at least one "real" doctor on this board, an anesthesiologist. He doesn't throw around a title. Why do you?

... in response to You're an excellent speller., posted by Dr Aaron on Feb 25, 2005

I am a poor speller but I use a spell checker and anything else I get my hands
on when I am writing a paper my supervisors will be reading. Are you not afraid
that all your doctors will look down on you because you cannot even spell right
or make a darn good attempt at it?