Title: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: pablo on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM [This message has been edited by pablo]
Ouch! I returned to the States recently and before boarding the plane I mentally prepared myself for the reality of being back in Gringaland. After spending my last day in Colombia with a lovely, young and attractive lady I got up early the next morning to catch my return flight. Even at the airport I saw many attractive Latinas milling about, either working for various airline companies or like me, catching a flight somewhere. Three + more hours and I would be away from all this. “Brace yourself Pablo. Take a deep breath. You’ve been through this before, you can do it again”. It did not take long to get the visual slap in the face waking me up to the reality that I would not be spending any time with any beautiful Latinas while I was away. As I boarded Delta I saw that the stewardesses were all AW. Now, don't get me wrong here folks, I’m not an American woman hater, but gee whiz, these women were a far cry from the beautiful Latinas I was accustomed to seeing in Colombia. Long gone are the days when airline companies hired you based on appearance. One older stewardess could hardly walk down the aisle without shifting and swaying her large behind at a slight angle to avoid hitting the sides of the passenger seats. And to think...I requested an aisle seat. Arriving back home wasn't any better. Not only was I unprepared for the cold and damp weather but wherever I went I saw many unattractive women. I went out with a buddy last night to a popular pub in town. We decided to have a beer in the basement bar as there was some live music going on. The beer was great but didn’t make the women appear any better looking. Good grief, I counted 18 guys either sitting by themselves or with another guy and only 3 women. Let me tell you, these ladies were prime catches! Short hair, overweight, and dressed like they were at a frumpy jean slumber party. One guy in his mid to late thirties was doting on one of these ladies as if she were a beauty queen. Poor guy, little does he know. We finished our beer and called it a night. Too bad they don't have a "Latina methadone" substitute to hold you over until you get back to paradise. Title: Withdrawal Symptoms......Can be cured by.... Post by: Hoda on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by pablo on Feb 13, 2005
[This message has been edited by Hoda] planning your NEXT trip! Right about now, you're probably trying to figure out, how you can weasel out some addtional vacation time :-). A positive side effect of your withrawal is the developement of what I call the "I don't need to put up with anymore of this local bs" syndrome (sp). You'll find yourself happy to spend less time & MONEY on the local talent! You'll find yourself impervious to the usual negative atttitudes so prevalent with way too many (not all) AW. You'll notice, that the "less" attention you give the locals....the more they'll wonder what's happening with you. (ex:he must have someone or he's gone gay) Anyway friend....you'll be fine! Trust me...you'll find the time & money to feed your new addiction...lol Title: Re: Doc Hoda Post by: pablo on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Withdrawal Symptoms......Can be cured by..., posted by Hoda on Feb 14, 2005
"Doctor, Mr. MD, can you tell me, what's ailing me"? Your diagnosis is accurate sir and yes that is the only cure for being bite by the Latina Bug! Quote: A positive side effect of your withdrawal is the development of what I call the "I don't need to put up with anymore of this local bs" syndrome. Oh yea brother, that happened a long time ago. It's nice walking around in these tall boots. Quote: You'll find yourself happy to spend less time & MONEY on the local talent! I wouldn't be that generous and describe the local available women here as talent. Let's just agree to the term "local" and leave off the "talent" ending. Quote: You'll find yourself impervious to the usual negative attitudes so prevalent with way too many (not all) AW. I chuckle inside and mentally cry out PROXIMA! knowing how much better the LW when a local snubs her nose. (No offense Looking4Wife) Quote: You'll notice, that the "less" attention you give the locals....the more they'll wonder what's happening with you. (ex: he must have someone or he's gone gay) You got that right. My friends comment about my nice tan I got in Colombia but the ladies just can't figure out where that gleam in my eye comes from. I do however avoid watching shows like Queer Eye. (No offense Hoda) I guess the only real cure for this type of addiction is to find a sweet Latina and marry her. Best I get my butt down there pronto which is exactly what the doc ordered. Title: Si, Senor. Post by: utopiacowboy on February 15, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Doc Hoda, posted by pablo on Feb 14, 2005
You definitely know the cure. Geez, you are so right. I work in a huge office complex with about 18,000 people, 60% of them women and many of them attractive. However, their snooty attitudes make them extremely unappealing. I think if I had to choose from among them, I'd really just give up. Having experienced Colombia and having married a sweet Latina, I cannot imagine why any American man would ever want to restrict himself to American women. Title: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: doombug on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by pablo on Feb 13, 2005
A lot of what you wrote sounds so familiar. As soon as I exited the airport in Sacramento, among the first things I saw were clusters of fat AW chicks. As far as the airline stewardesses, I'm sure somewhere deep in their union contract can be found a stipulation that goes something like this: "The homeliness of our female members shall not be a hindrance to advancement. Any lowly baggage handler, no matter how swollen her rump, knotted her hair, or cankerous her attitude, shall not be denied the priviledge of pushing a food service cart down the aisles of the companys' aircraft, if she so chooses. Furthermore, butting her ample rump against the heads of sleeping passengers shall not constitute rude behaviour. Since the aircraft are currently offering pillows of diminished size, these rumps should be viewed as added cushioning during moments of in-flight turbulence. Additonally, makeup shall not be a requirement, because of the added weight to the aircraft, which in the past has lead to wage concessions. And in-flight magazines and movies should be devoid of images of attractive females, as it strains the self-esteem of our female crew, thus abstructing their ability to work affectively." Peace out! Title: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: jediknight on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by pablo on Feb 13, 2005
i was on a delta flight from altanta to newark coming back from bogota and i think i had the same flight attendant, FAT and in need of a makeover. Title: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: utopiacowboy on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by pablo on Feb 13, 2005
And the craziest thing about all of it is, if you try to tell these guys what you've experienced, they just don't seem to be interested. I don't know what it is. I posted this same story in a thread below but it might have gotten lost in the thread. It pretty much sums up the differences between AW and Latinas (not that I am an AW hater): A coworker had a birthday party last night. He has a Harley so as a joke I bought him a biker magazine called EasyRiders. The magazine is about motorcycles but it has naked women liberally scattered throughout the magazine. He couldn't take it home because he said his wife would have a cow if she saw it. Contrast this with my wife's reaction. She didn't understand why his wife wouldn't let him have the magazine. After all, she said, men love to look at naked women and if gets horny looking at them, who's he going to turn to? I even showed her the magazine and she checked out the photos. Title: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: Pete E on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by utopiacowboy on Feb 13, 2005
I have talked to guys at home that wouldn't even consider coming here.Its just too different for them even if they have zero going there.The distance,the language,other excuses.You just have to be motivated enough to come here.For me it was easy,I always had this fantasy about a latin woman from south america.Certain seeds were planted in my head.I would have come earlier but I was distracted running a business then recovering from the money I lost doing it. One guy I know,after I told him about my Colombian wife said "whats the matter,can't find awoman here?"My answer "not what I was looking for.",failing to add if I was willing to settle for what he did it would have been no problem. Another thing we have in common here,besides being visual and having guts,is high standards of what we expect in a woman. What an adventure.Its a shame to be bored,especially some guys I know with plenty of time and money and NOTHING going on with women.Just no motivation to change things,they prefer to have an excuse instead of a hot chica.Whatever.Makes it better pickings for us,not that that was ever a problem here. Pete Title: Re: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: OkieMan on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by Pete E on Feb 13, 2005
Pete, Good post from you and the other guys talking about this situation. I sure wish I had some big money. I would form a TV production company and do a real "reality" show. It would go along the lines of showing how some selected gringos get chosen to come to some location in LA, possibly Cali or Medellin. Then they would get set up in some really nice 5 Star hotel, or maybe even use a place like CaliVip and meet the latinas just like we do. Naturally, all of these "episodes" are taped and shown to poor, love starved gringos back home, blah, blah, blah. If this wouldn't sell to one of the networks, then I am Mr. Ed! By the way, has anyone watched any of the shows that had the AW trying to become the next Sports Illustrated Swimsuit model? In my opinion, it was pitiful. They had a bunch of flat chested, bony plain janes. Any of the latina hotties would blow them away! But, I still think my idea is better. Anybody got a few connections and a few million to invest? OkieMan Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: Brazilophile on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by OkieMan on Feb 13, 2005
I think your idea is great!!! I would love to see a TV show or movie with MOB search as the theme. I don't think it would sell to any network though. many of the executives are now women. The show or movie would be putting them in a very bad light since they are the type of woman men are rejecting in going south. Larry G. is writing a book. Maybe someone here can write a script! Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: OkieMan on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by Brazilophile on Feb 14, 2005
Brazilophile, Chances are that it would not sell to a "regular" network. But, some cable channel, like the Men's Network, or whatever it is called might work. However, Fox might go for it. The problem is I have all of these great ideas, and no bucks to back it up! The story of my life! Oh well, I can dream can't I? OkieMan Title: Re:The Book Post by: DavidMN on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by Brazilophile on Feb 14, 2005
What happened to Larry's book project - have you heard anything? I thought it was going to be published in January 2004 and then he was then going to move to Medellin. Title: Re: Re:The Book Post by: pablo on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re:The Book, posted by DavidMN on Feb 14, 2005
I met Larry in Medellin recently. Although we had spoken on the phone a couple times before we had never seen each other. It was at Mangos, a popular bar that I really don't like going to but a friend had invited me to come along. I looked up and saw this gringo and thought where have I seen this guy before? I remembered a photo of his online and then I remembered. We had a nice chat but I forgot to ask about the book and he made no mention of it. He is still planning on moving to Medellin and in fact, has a business there in the works. BTW, is the LWL even still active anymore? I haven't received an email from that forum in ages. Title: Re: The Book Post by: DavidMN on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re:The Book, posted by pablo on Feb 14, 2005
[This message has been edited by DavidMN] Hi Paul! I think LWL is **just** barely active. I get a periodic message but they're buried in so many Viagra and Horny Housewives emails that I just delete 'em en masse. Thanks for the reply about Larry. I don't know the whole history of his presence on LWL, but I thought he was gracious in helping new travelers. And he must have had a thick skin after taking so many market theory beatings. Haha. -David Title: Problem with "Reality" shows Post by: Pete E on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by OkieMan on Feb 13, 2005
Is they are anything but real.Introduce a TV camera and motivations to get seen,especially by the women and reality got left in the distance.What is really sick is where there is some selection process and there is all of this dwelling on the emotions of the rejected person. And of course you can immagine all of the dialog is scripted and coached.Sicko stuff for lurkers in my opinion. A country singer named Brad Paisley had a video that went with one of his songs spoofing the whole thing,it was funny. Now,you could do a documentary,showing the situation and interviewing the people without all the phoney dialog and mystic.That could be real.And some guys would fit the immagined picture of a loser who suddenly thinks he is king. Some of the guys with the absolute least going for them are the ones who really let it go to their head and think they are hot stuff.Most guys are pretty normal,but of course we feel more cocky about our new found attraction. Pete Title: Re: Problem with "Reality" shows Post by: OkieMan on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Problem with "Reality" shows, posted by Pete E on Feb 14, 2005
Pete, You had a lot of good points. There are many ways to handle that, but I must admit; I hate most of these so-called "reality" shows too! They are very phoney. However, since we are all into the latinas, I just thought it would be better than looking at the ditsy AW! Besides, it would be a great way to make some big bucks and get to go the the award shows and say things like: "I want to thank my producer, my director, my kindergarten teacher, blah, blah, blah"! ha ha OkieMan Title: They're still wallowing in feminist quick sand Post by: doombug on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by utopiacowboy on Feb 13, 2005
"And the craziest thing about all of it is, if you try to tell these guys what you've experienced, they just don't seem to be interested. I don't know what it is." I've tried to be persuasive about the subject at my work with my male colleagues, but they don't get it. They have a look of utter ambivalence. It's as if they've already been thoroughly brainwashed to hold out hope for the AW, to have faith that their obesity, materialism and feminism is something that'll soon pass. It's a shame. A lot of these guys seemed to have given up. It's as if they could care less that they'll remain on this earth isolated from romance, committed to nothing more than their work, family, or friends. I swear, if they'd spend just one day in one of these LA cities, they'd experience a rebirth of hormones. The vitality is a vacation in itself. Within a few minutes or hours of debarking from the plane, the primal urge to pursue a woman is one of the first things to return. And the freedom to do so, without the nagging ethos of the feminists weighing you down, is LIBERATING! The sense can be equated to that of leaving the military after serving your contract, or I suspect that which a convict feels after finally leaving prison, or your last day of high school, or first bicycle ride. In the mind of many AW's is this belief that most of us go to foreign countries to find a woman because we are luckless, lacking, or losers. But what working man could simply not hire a hooker if he wanted to satisfy a simple need? It is more than just a PHYSICAL thing; it is a desire to feel appreciated and loved, and a desire to return it in equal amounts to someone who is genuine. The AW feminists--having lost their faith in love (except maybe that which they ascribe to their family or work) and replaced it with bitterness--view our desire for love as artificial or insignificant. It's a funny irony to be among a group of revolutionaries (who could deny what we are revolting against?) who are so underestimated. The AW feminists think we do it out of desperation or perversion, when it is they who have wrought this desire, this urge to go abroad, to find women greater than them in nearly every respect. Oprah and Dr. Phil can feed their egos, while "Desperate House Wives" and "Sex in the City" fill their fantasies, but it is the right of every male to not just sit by and pass the popcorn. While they feed their fantasy, go get your reality! Peace out! Title: Can this Man get an "A-MEN"..... Post by: Hoda on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to They're still wallowing in feminist quic..., posted by doombug on Feb 13, 2005
from the PL congregation....Halelujah!!!!! Title: Amen, brother :-) Post by: Looking4Wife on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to They're still wallowing in feminist quic..., posted by doombug on Feb 13, 2005
"It is more than just a PHYSICAL thing; it is a desire to feel appreciated and loved, and a desire to return it in equal amounts to someone who is genuine." I usually don't read most of the "Anti AW" posts, but I'm glad I read this one. Your post was riddled with so many well-said and/or hilarious quotes, that I had to highlight at least one :-) I actually dated a beautiful AW recently who made me feel appreciated, loved, affectionate, and we enjoyed each other's company immensely. Only one problem... she was literally tormented by her own insecurity and insane jealousy... to the point of being psycho. I still miss her, at least one of her personalities... :-) The other AW's (all gorgeous) I've dated recently had the unproductive combination of being self-absorbed and/or financially oportunistic. Yet people are telling me not to go to LA because the women are financially oportunistic... One more thing... Now I'm not Brad Pitt or Denzel Washington, but I have been blessed that a certain percentage of gorgeous women do find me extremely attractive... the larger percentage maybe not so much :-) Title: Re: Amen, brother :-) Post by: OkieMan on February 14, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Amen, brother :-), posted by Looking4Wife on Feb 14, 2005
Looking4Wife, Also excellent post. Just to show those crazy AW, I think I will get some major plastic surgery so I can look like Brad Pitt. That way, I can get married and then divorced from a horse faced, flat-chested AW like Ms. Aniston! Then, I will go to all the beaches in LA and let all of the latinas chase me, have unbridled passion, father 50 illigetimate children, and die with a smile on my face! Uh-oh, looks like I turned into a pyscho too! ha ha OkieMan Title: Preach it DB! ...n/t Post by: pablo on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to They're still wallowing in feminist quic..., posted by doombug on Feb 13, 2005
I said n/t. Title: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: pablo on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by utopiacowboy on Feb 13, 2005
Cowboy, I think some of the guys that feign disinterest are in fact jealous. One good friend seemed to be irritated with me being in Colombia. He is turned off by the available women here and has almost resigned himself to the single life rather than pursue one of the many beautiful Latinas in SA. He was happy as a clam in a past relationship with an AW but when that relationship failed he became even more set in his cynical bachelor ways. One the other hand, I showed a few photos to another buddy and he can't wait to visit me later this year in Colombia. Title: Re: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: OkieMan on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by pablo on Feb 13, 2005
Pablo, A picture says a thousand words, etc, etc. OkieMan Title: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: OkieMan on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by pablo on Feb 13, 2005
Pablo, I don't want to butt into your personal business, but it is obvious that you did not want to come back to the good ole US of A. So, did this trip have something to do with your visa requirements? It is my understanding that you guys who live down there, have to come up for air, ever now and then, right? Hopefully, you have some family members that you can visit with as well. At any rate, are you already back in latina land, or not? Any updates on the young ladies that you told me about? We all love a good story. It keeps me sane until I can travel to Colombia myself. OkieMan Title: Re: Re: Withdrawal Symptoms Post by: pablo on February 13, 2005, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Withdrawal Symptoms, posted by OkieMan on Feb 13, 2005
Hey OM, I'm definitely not in paradise at the moment. Yep, had to come back for a short while to take care of some matters. One being trying to obtain a different type of visa other than the tourist one I was using. The maximum amount of time allowed is six months (two upon arrival, with up to four-one month extensions through DAS). Securing a resident visa will give me greater flexibility and the ability to stay as long as I want. A number of posters living in Colombia have these permanent visas...a much better option. There are many nice things about the US, many that I used to take granted for, but a plethora of babes unfortunately isn't one of them. No new news to share on the novia front other than now I'm having to keep in touch via email, web cam or the occasional telephone call, very poor substitutes for actually being there. BTW, some unsolicited advice regarding your upcoming trip to Cali, since you haven't met the lady you are communicating with now it might be a good idea to contact a few other ladies just in case it doesn't work out as you hope. It will also give you an opportunity and provide you with more choices. I hope you decide to do a detour from Cali to check out the lovely Paisas. It would be nice meeting up with you. Pablo |