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Guys,
What would you do if you had to make the following choice:

1.21                                2. 30
 sexy                                 nice
 friendly                or           loyal
 "10"                                  "8"

   or

You know the following:
Once,the lady that is a "10" gets to the USA,people will tell her she can do better. Eventually,she may listen and take off.
On the other hand,the lady that is an "8" will probably stay for the long run.
Would you spend your time with one, or both, or what?

... in response to A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

Maybe because women would rate you a real zero!

Try to look at the inside.  Many of these women have good qualities.

Remember your mother?  She probably was not a 10 after she gave birth to you.  And after a few siblings breast fed at her bosom, they probably made her quite sad looking.  And yet you still loved mama, right?  

Get my point.

... in response to A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

That reminds me of a question an old friend used to ask.

Would you rather have a 10 that was bad in bed or a six that was incredible. I said I would take the six every time.

I agree with UC. You have to find somebody that does it for you. That you can't imagine living without. When I first saw a picture of my Novia I liked what I saw but her personality is what really won me over.

... in response to That reminds me, posted by Mazu on Feb 5, 2005

I bet she knocks you out every time you see her. And if she does that, she is a 10. Your 10.

... in response to A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

You make it sound like you're shopping for a new television. Which one has better picture quality? Where's the passion? I would go for the one who had captured my heart so completely that I could not imagine living without her. She could be a 2 by anyone else's standard but if she captivated me to that degree, she would be my 10 regardless of what anybody else thought. This is how I feel about my wife. She is the most attractive woman I ever saw in my life. Each and every time I see her, from the first time I saw her until I walked in the door tonight, I always have the same thought: She is the hottest chick in the universe!

... in response to Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by utopiacowboy on Feb 5, 2005

:-)

... in response to Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by utopiacowboy on Feb 5, 2005

Great post!  I was kind of alluding to the same thing with my post, but I guess it lacked the "oomph" since I don't yet have the girl of my dreams to back it up :-)

Its great to hear someone speak so positively of their wife.  I know most guys speak positively about their wives here on PL and WLC, your post was so powerful I had to respond.  I am always saddened when I see guys talking negatively, or even neutrally, about their lackluster marriage, while gawking (or making suggestive comments) about every attractive woman that walks by.

For people that have read my other posts where I talk about "being in love" which equates to "finding someone irresistible",  I am describing exactly what utopiacowboy (UC) said.

I believe that UC was describing feelings that (include and) transcend outward physical attraction, and that this "feeling" (contrary to popular belief) can be maintained via the skills and tools taught on marriagbuilders.com.  No, I have no affiliation with this website, I am just very passionate helping people maintain happy marriages (including myself someday :-)

... in response to Re: Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by Looking4Wife on Feb 5, 2005

Irresistible. That is really the exact word that describes it. You're also right that it goes beyond the person's physical characteristics. There is some inner "essence" at work. It's very hard to put your finger on it or describe it but when it's there, you know it.

... in response to A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

I would take the 10.  I would grow on my 10 enough for her to keep me around.  I am not adverse to risk.  I have always felt in control of what happens with the women in my life.  If she leaves it is because I let it happen, or wanted it to happen.  

... in response to A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

Well if you can get a 21 year old "10" I suggest you take it. A lot of guys never get a shot at it so if I where you I would jump on the opportunity.

I never understood the the argument for hooking up with a less attractive woman so she wouldn't run off. If you are worried about that marry one with a bad leg.

I guess if you really married an average woman some people might look at you and her and tell her that she got quite a catch instead of what are you doing with him. hehehe!!

But if I where you I would muster up some self esteem and go for the "10" if she is really interested. You only live once and even relationships with ugly women can go south. I know I tried it once and I'll never do it again. Nothing worst than living with a bitchy woman that also happens to be unattractive. If she was really a knock out I would have wrote it off as being a little tempermental.

... in response to Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by Calipro on Feb 4, 2005

Calipro wrote:

"I never understood the the argument for hooking up with a less attractive woman so she wouldn't run off. If you are worried about that marry one with a bad leg."

Now THAT was hilarious :-)

... in response to A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005


I would spend more time with the "10" to see if I could determine if she was genuine.  I would not "settle" for the "8".

If you spend enough time with the "8", you may fall in love with the "8".  Then the "8" could become a "10" in your eyes and in your heart, because no other woman will matter.  So before I would become exlusive with the "8", she would have to be "upgraded" to a "10" in my heart.

If you don't fall in love with the "8", but you become exclusive with her, your eyes may always be wandering to other women, thinking the grass "coulda" been greener on the other side...  So ultimately you are not happy, and the "8" has been "cheated" out of the whole-hearted adoration that she deserves in a relationship.

... in response to Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by Looking4Wife on Feb 4, 2005

Well, for starters, this whole thing is subjective.  The lady may be a "10" to you and a "5" to someone else.  However, as we know there are some absolutely incredible looking latinas that are available.  Whether you and she makes a go of it is also dependent on the two people involved.  Fortunately, or unfortunately, there is just so many variables.  My feelings are that the looks, the personality and the values all come into play, as far as a real relationship.  I think maybe many guys get into the "fantasy" woman, like a movie star, or model, etc that they see.  Let's face it, separating fantasy from reality is one of the challenges we all must face, sooner or later.

                             OkieMan

... in response to A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

This number rating system has always bothered me because what is sexy is so judgemental.  I agree that there are certain traits that all men everywhere consider sexy and beautiful.  Clear soft skin for example or a smile full of clean white teeth.  

But other traits vary consideraby across men.  Pete E. has made countless references to his desire for round fleshy buttocks on a woman.  Many men find such a behind very sexy.  And just as many men find a smaller flatter behind very sexy.  We can do the same with breast size, breast shape, skin color, amount of body hair, length and color of head hair, etc.

Bottom line:  What is a 10 to one man may be a 7 to another, and vice versa.  Worrying about how other men are rating your lady and whether they will make a move on her is wasted energy.

I think that energy is much better spent
1) finding a woman with character
2) leaving her no doubt that you love her
3) leaving her no doubt that you think she is a 10.

If she loves you for your character, she will not leave you for anyone else because she should be regarding you as a 10 as well.  The saying that "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." applies to women too.

... in response to Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by Brazilophile on Feb 4, 2005

Great post!
That rating system is so subjective, and since when scoring an 8 considered settling. I don't think there are any 10's as everyone has flaws. However, I believe in going for the best and would not settle for less thinking she may leave for greener pastures. I'll leave that to the insecure ones.

... in response to A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

Let me adjust your numbers to reality then answer.
There are no 10's.Thats a theoretical maximum,a composite of all the best attributes a girl could have.
So your hot girl is 9 max.I have never seen over  a 9 here,but I rate tough.But she is still trouble unless you are an 9 yourself,and if you were you wouldn't have gotten around to looking here you would be too busy at home.
So go for the 7-8  girl if you are taking her back,still very good looking,but find one who loves you.Then she won't be on a plane the first  snowfall,or going for the first good looking gringo to pay attention to her,or trading you in for the guy with more money than you.
There is what you can get and what you can keep.Not knowing the difference puts you in for a big fall,not fun at all.But I have seen guys say hey,it was worth it.One of our posters here says that about his super hot ex.

Pete

... in response to A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

People have different views but for a woman to be a 10 with me she would have to have a LOT of special qualities that are more than looks.  If I rated a woman a 10 then I would NEVER have ANY doubts about her wanting to leave later on. If I had one I though that about she would be a 4.

... in response to Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by Bubba on Feb 4, 2005

I am on Bubba with this one. I don't rate based just on looks. Yes. I say a girl is a 10 but if she is a 10 in looks and 10 in personality of course I would choose her. The girl I am seeing now is an 8 in the face, 9.5 in the body and 9 in personality. How can I look elsewhere. For that 10, 10, 10. That is just stupid.

... in response to Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by Bubba on Feb 4, 2005

I am just talking about looks at this point.
For Pete's sake,I will say 9.5.
As you know 50% of marriages end in divorce.
I am wondering if a more beautiful woman is more likely to stray or if the benefits are worth the additional risk,if any.

... in response to Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by Bubba on Feb 4, 2005

We are talking looks in the 10 point rating system.Other qualities,although very important and effect overall desirability are seperate.So the good person 4 does not become a 10,the snake of a 9.5 does not become a 4.

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8  , posted by Pete E on Feb 4, 2005

Pete,

Your right. I am talking about looks.
O.K.,let's say physically she is flawless,but let's be conservative and say she is a 9.5.
Would you agree that a younger,more beautiful Colombiana has more options when she gets here?
Is it worth the risk?

... in response to Re: Re: Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8 ..., posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

Just a few comments to your post.

"O.K.,let's say physically she is flawless"

Sorry.....there is no such thing..you can always find flaws with somebody physically...no matter how small...this goes for women and men......

"Would you agree that a younger,more beautiful Colombiana has more options when she gets here?"

The younger she is....the more risky it is once you get her here......if she is 21..she is still in many ways a girl, not a woman....she still needs to "mature" and become a woman.  Guys who bring "girls" over here as wives are in a high risk of failure category. And if you are under the belief that a South American women who is 21 is more "mature" then a 21 year old here in the states, you are wrong. They are still 21 and growing up no matter what country they are from.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice  8 ..., posted by cabocancun on Feb 4, 2005

You have to be real and agree with Pete. Unless you are a 9.5 as well, she will more than likely stray. It won't be her looks anyway that will make her stray, they just give her more of an opportunity. If she is a good person, she will remain a good person. Finding that out takes time. I would say keep them both until you no longer have to ask.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: A sexy  10    or  a nice..., posted by soltero on Feb 4, 2005


My comments were phrased differently, but you captured the gist of what I said.  Had I read your post first, it might have saved me some time :-)

... in response to I think we're on the same page... again ..., posted by Looking4Wife on Feb 4, 2005

We do tend to agree, but your perspective included some things I left out. I guess we have to both start reading each other's posts before we put our two cents in if we are going to be "posting twins" (smile)...