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It is now 1:19am in the morning and I am a little bored, so I will get a little philosophical with you. Everyone thinks the American woman is a raving lunatic with a jar (for your balls) in one hand and scissors in the other. We see the Latina as the complete opposite. Loving, sweet, family oriented and 100% feminine. (We have conveniently forgotten about Lorena Bobbitt). Women are women. You have your nutcases and your angels in every group all over the world. The problem is not with the women completely, the problem is with us as well. American women tell you that they want bad guys. Someone recently posted something about a survey where the AWs said that the number one thing that they want in a guy is that he is "dangerous". That is just confusion talking. What they want is a man, and they have forgotten what that is. So have we. Our society has made being labeled a "man" almost something to be ashamed of. With political correctness, equal rights, affirmative action, the women's movement, we have all been psychologically castrated, and the confusion as to who is who, and who needs to be what in the family unit has caused the family unit to deteriorate into "you and me" instead of "us". We no longer have to go out and hunt to bring back the family meal. Women can swipe an ATM card at the checkout just as well as you can. These women are biologically orchestrated to hold onto their eggs until the guy dragging the biggest chunk of meat home looks their way. They can kick and scream all they want about you doing things their way, or the fact that they make just as much money as you or more, or whatever thing they happen to be bitching about, but what they really are doing is crying out in frustration because there is no way to gauge who the strongest hunter is anymore and because of the way political correctness and attempts and leveling the playing field have removed the fundamental differences between the sexes, they don't know how to tell anymore.

Now they look for the biggest house, the nicest car, and the ones not pretty enough or educated enough to get those go for the roughnecks because they erroneously take their attitude for signs of strength instead of stupidity and sociopathy. Because of this, they test you, they bitch, they whine, they ask you to move mountains, not because they really want you to, but because they want you to tell them to shut the hell up! They just don't know how to react to it when you do. I know that saying this will cause a Feminazi uproar, but it's true.

On to the Latina. She isn't much different in her biological makeup than the AW. If she senses weakness in you, she will continue to exploit it. She will tell you no, even when what you are trying to do will benefit her,  be uncomprimising, do whatever the hell she wants to do, and if you don't nip this early on, she well be 10 times worse than the AW and despise you while she is stuck with you. The one difference between the Latina and the AW is she (the Latina) knows why she is doing it or is at least closer to that knowledge than the AW is. If you pass the test, she gives in and becomes that jewel that you wanted her to be. She doesn't push it. The AW doesn't even know why she is doing it anymore, so she just doesn't know when to quit. All women feel that if you can't handle them, then you can't handle anything else that would be harmful to them, so you can't protect them. I have given up on AWs not because I could not have one. I used to rotate out 5 at a time. I didn't care and I didn't want to be married. I have given up on AWs because I got tired of trying to prove something to someone who was testing me but was too confused to know why she was testing me. At least with a Latina, I know that all I have to do is wait for the test, pass it, and continue to move forward. There are other factors involved, but this is the underlying truth of the matter as I see it. Questions or comments, anyone?

... in response to The real difference between Latinas and ..., posted by soltero on Dec 19, 2004

"She [a Latina] isn't much different in her biological makeup than the AW"

The media, culture, society, laws--and some wicked carbohydrates--have shaped our lovely princesses.

AW's have become Oprah-ized (including the weight issues).  Men are easy targets; women are 'hands off'--or else.

It'll be a few more decades before they regain their equilibrium.

Imagine if every U.S. male was required to spend one month abroad performing some foreign service stint on behalf of Uncle Sam.  The exodus of marriages might follow suit, and this pesky 'mail-order bride' industry could grow into a national epidemic (in the eyes of the AW, at least).  

It's probably safe to say that the vast majority of U.S. males have not yet awakened to the prospects available abroad.  We're still trapped within the bubble, having become so accustomed to the women that surround and have raised us.  The transition from how AW's 'used to be' to what they are now has been an imperceptible evolution.  It only shocks us awake once we step outside the bounds.

Now I'm thinking of the Truman Show, with Jim Carrey.

I wonder if the script had him marrying a Latina after he walked through that door...

... in response to The real difference between Latinas and ..., posted by soltero on Dec 19, 2004

You make some interesting comments. I don't know if it was a conscious test but early on in our relationship, my wife did do some things that required me to put my foot down. I think you may be right- they do like to have a man with enough self-confidence to stand up to them.

... in response to The real difference between Latinas and ..., posted by soltero on Dec 19, 2004


Other than the obvious defects that Troy pointed out, everything else was extremely insightful and well said.

... in response to The real difference between Latinas and ..., posted by soltero on Dec 19, 2004

How can "we" all "have been psychologically castrated" as a result of "equal rights"?

Are you saying that "we" would not have been "psychologically castrated" if we'd have forced certain members of humanity to be unequal to others?  

Who excactly to you consider to be the "we" in your thread?  And who are the benefactors of "equal rights" that have rendered the "we" to be "psychologically castrated". Your thread lost credibility after that sentence.

Honestly, who the hell are you to directly convey that some people should have advantages in society over others?  

Frankly, you sound like a little man who hasn't gotten what you've wanted out of life, and so now you're angry and bitter towards everyone else.  Women, minorities, gays, liberals, communist.  Yep, its all their fault that you're a loser.  Yep, it sure is.

... in response to rambling at its best, posted by Troy on Dec 19, 2004

Dear Troy,

"Equal rights" is a concept; it is not actual condition, time, or place that exists except in subjective human awareness.  If you cannot figure out and agree with the concept that the American 'male archetype' has been castrated, and/or is under continued social pressure to become less 'male', you are simply out of touch.

...to personally attack the poster, and especially to use the words 'small' and 'loser' as you are so prone to do, makes you the wee man of the forum, nobody else.

How many times must you take someones' attempt at expressing themselves thoughtfully and become a pissant before your run of pissant juice?

Ciao

... in response to Here we go again, posted by Locii on Dec 20, 2004

I was actually looking forward to when you would weigh in on this. I am almost disappointed at times when we agree because I know that if you are on the other end of a discussion you are going to bring it. Discussing an issue with someone who actually has a point to their argument and can express it helps out everyone involved. Somebody please explain that to Troy.

... in response to Re: Here we go again, posted by soltero on Dec 20, 2004

I didn't even address your post since I agreed with it pretty much in entirety.  Maybe its me, but what I read was that you don't really blame american women, but try to comment on their almost unconscious psychology and why we find them difficult (which I totally agree with).  Somehow Troy found something offensive in that (or hateful or whatever).  I found precisely the opposite..."Don't hate AW, since they can't really help being this way".  Funny how that is.

I have many AW friends (and they treat me as a confidante friend) and an ex-wife whom I have had to find peace with.  I don't hate or dislike her for who she is, or the way she is (or even what she did to me).  But I am very certain that I want no part of it or repeat of it.

As I said before about Troy, he's just still sensitive about being sacked by Achilles for killing his gay lover, Patroclus.

Ciao

... in response to rambling at its best, posted by Troy on Dec 19, 2004

How pitiful and whiny.  You can blame others all you want for your own personal failures (what do you think talk radio is for).  It still doesn't hide the truth.

The vast majority of men love women; whether they be American or not.  Sure, some women are sour, some are sweet, and a bunch are somewheres in between.  But we men (get that, MEN) understand women, how they work, how they think; what makes them happy.  And when we fail with one, we have enough skills and confidence to get back up and try it again, instead pouting about it like a like child.

Woman haters...they haven't got a clue, and everyone knows it, and THAT makes you angry.

It's funny how adeptly the few lonely and bitter woman-haters find themselves and pat each other on the backs.  You're all misfits; failures in the game of love.  Maybe you were too ugly, too fat, too short, too whimpy, no game, no charm, I don't know.  Whatever it was, or is, the patheticness of it sticks out like a sore thumb.

How funny!  Players (and former players like myself) laugh at you losers cuz we've always been the guys who get the ladies, while you get the babyoil and the playboy mags.  

So, you asked for comments, you got mine.  Attack me all you want, jealously's a trip, and you're just showing who's got it and who don't.

Tip to you all losers; it ain't the ladies, it's you.

merry christmas.

... in response to don't player hate, posted by Troy on Dec 19, 2004

Hey Troy,

Its funny, I've never considered myself a player, but my Bogota ex just told me the other day what a player I am.

Question:  Who is the real player, the one who doesn't think about it or the one who can't shut up about what a player he is and what a girly man everyone else is?

Gosh, this is a tough one..

Ciao

... in response to don't player hate, posted by Troy on Dec 19, 2004

Will come to haunt you in your marrage.  It might take years but it willl come out.  It's funny but everything you say about everyone here is a reflection of yourself.

And calling yourself a player don't make it so.

... in response to don't player hate, posted by Troy on Dec 19, 2004

Nothing in what I posted had anything to do with hating women. Are you really this ignorant, or do you just skim through things, go with what parts you can understand, and then build your responses off of looking out of your window as the cars pass by? The only person angry here seems to be you. I know that it can be frustrating when you jump into the water and find out after the fact that you might be in over your head. The best thing to do in situations like that is wear a life jacket so you can float and keep up with everyone else. I don't think anyone here attacked you. Maybe disagreed with what you said, but the only one flinging around insults appears to be you. Take a time out and calm down, and when you want to come back and play nice, I am sure that everyone will overlook this little tantrum of yours as they have overlooked most of the others.

Happy New Year

... in response to rambling at its best, posted by Troy on Dec 19, 2004

You are living in a dream world.

... in response to rambling at its best, posted by Troy on Dec 19, 2004

You have to realize how short sighted and narrow minded you are if you want a chance to realize your fullest potential. You critized a board member in the past because he wanted a simple wedding ceremony and didn't do the same as you. Now this man (Soltero) makes some valid points and the only thing you can do is pick the ones you don't agree with and begin to fire away. I'm sure I am not the first to tell you about your limited views, tunnel vision, lack of seeing the whole picture, can't see the forest for the trees, and any other phrases to describe your stuck on Troy condition. It is no wonder that Clay/Penix was your best friend.
Open your mind and be willing to accept other points of view. Not agree with everything but be willing to accept the differences without being a jerk about it. A woman respects a man with confidence and will follow his lead. She will not stay with a man that mistakes confidence with the 'my way or the highway' mentality. That my friend is the road you are on. Open your eyes and see that the world is round and not flat.

... in response to rambling at its best, posted by Troy on Dec 19, 2004

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This WAS rambling, as I said I was bored. Remove the human "weepy" factor and make it any other animal on the planet and see how much credibility it has. I wasn't angry when I wrote it, just posting the objective view of what I have gathered from my observations and experience. If you don't agree, so be it. I can argue it from your side as well, it's all just opinion. Just as I can form the opinion that your skills at debating are lacking as you always end up making it personal and eventually start attacking the person instead of forming any kind of intelligent argument. I threw this out there to get a response, hopefully from someone who had something to add or detract in a reasonably sensible manner. You are just funny.

... in response to Re: rambling at its best, posted by soltero on Dec 19, 2004

Don't let that "flame" deter you from posting any future insites/opinions here.  Otherwise, this board could potentially slip into the same posting rut being experienced by the Asian/East European boards.  

I suspect most people got the general idea of what you were getting at in your original post.

It's easy to argue that the American woman has the luxury of more life enhancing benefits than other female on the planet.  In fact, any other species on the planet.  Health care, jobs, education, housing, retirement, food and water safety, maternity leave, custody rights, alimony and/or child support, various protections under the law, etc.

An American male spouse is not one of those benefits, though.

Best appreciated elsewhere.

... in response to Re: Re: rambling at its best, posted by doombug on Dec 20, 2004

"Don't let that "flame" deter you from posting any future insites/opinions here."

Doombug, I don't have any problem with Troy. He obviously was very passionate about the subject for one reason or another. I just wish that he would have come with a counterpoint instead of taking it back to the first grade with the name calling and "mine is bigger than yours" responses (lol). Stuff like that dies down after a while if you don't get sucked into it (I am guilty of being sucked into flames before). I never said I was right, it's just an opinion. I believe it, and I would have enjoyed arguing my point since he disagreed, but I wasn't going to get into who is (or was) the biggest "player" with him. What did that have to do with anything?

... in response to rambling at its best, posted by Troy on Dec 19, 2004

I do not know Troy's gender, but even if it were female,
I did not see a reason to get so defensive.  
There were A LOT of truths in what Soltero wrote, and I think it
was a very well written and informative post into the insights
of his theory.

There are significant impacts modern society has on the historical
structure of corting and living as mates.  There are certain
fundamental similarities between all women of the world, while
at the same time obviouse differences in methods and expectations.

While I accept Troy having a different point of view, from my years
of experience traveling all over the world I must say I subscribe
to Soltero's observations.

... in response to The real difference between Latinas and ..., posted by soltero on Dec 19, 2004

Outstanding post.  Where have you gotten your information.
Right on!

... in response to Re: The real difference between Latinas ..., posted by Heat on Dec 19, 2004

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LOL...just from being on the giving and receiving end of both the good and the bad in relating to others. Also, being able to listen to what people say and watch what they do without trying to judge or add on. As I said in my reply to Kented, I wish it wasn't like that, but that's what I have seen and experienced...

... in response to The real difference between Latinas and ..., posted by soltero on Dec 19, 2004

Although this runs counter to my instincts, you may be completely correct.  I plan to gently suggest to my wife that she do some things my way when we run into idiocincricies of the US culture.  

Obviously in Costa Rica there was lots I didn't ubnderstand about how things worked in the country and I had to do things her waty.

... in response to Re: The real difference between Latinas ..., posted by kented on Dec 19, 2004

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It runs counter to the way I want to be as well, but this has been based on my experiences and what I have heard from others, you included. If you remember, after your first marriage, when you were still kinda pissed, this is the way you were when you met your wife, and the way that Pete is acting now. I think you have already passed your test, Kented...You are in there. Good luck and best wishes when she gets here for your continued success.