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Title: Height in the Philippines
Post by: Jeff S on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
I asked a question down below but it may heve been too buried in a thread to get much response except from Dave. I think it was Dave who said his fiance was too short to pass some of the minimum height requirements for jobs in the Phils, and Tess menioned she had no trouble with any height requirements. Why do they have them? We here in the US are so politically correct, even if you write a help wanted ad for a Girl Friday, you have to specify either male or female is acceptable (geez.) In Japan, I noticed want ads with gender and age requirements, (such as female clerk wanted, 18-30 yrs old.) I kind of understand those, if you're trying to project some sort of corporate image -  but I cant imagine why there'd be a height requirement, especially in a country where 5'3" is considered relatively tall. Anybody know?
-- Jeff S.


Title: Re: Height in the Philippines
Post by: Peaches on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Height in the Philippines, posted by Jeff S on Aug 15, 2001

Jim,

I feel so sad about  Jay's situation. I wish everything will
be fine. Do lit  US Emb workers' butt so they can say
"ugh" and  do there work.

peaches



Title: Re: Re: Height in the Philippines
Post by: Peaches on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Height in the Philippines, posted by Peaches on Aug 15, 2001

I'm lost :))



Title: Re: Height in the Philippines
Post by: Bear on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Height in the Philippines, posted by Jeff S on Aug 15, 2001

Honey is only 5'0' and she has told me that few places would consider her because of her height.  Her cousin Kthryn now is 5'3" and has had no problem.

Bear



Title: Re: Height in the Philippines
Post by: Dave H2O on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Height in the Philippines, posted by Jeff S on Aug 15, 2001

Jeff,

I appreciate you setting me up for my punch line down below. I guess we needed a drum roll. ;o))

My fiancee is a Registered Nurse, so I don't think sex appeal was a factor in her case. It was even a government job. She was told that the job would have been hers if she had been taller. I think she only missed it by an inch or two. I believe the requirement had to do with performing duties, such as hanging IV bags and reaching equipment. I found out about it when I told her of different job offers she had received in the US. My fiancee kept asking me if there were height requirements. I know many Filipina nurses in the US who out perform most of the taller American ones. They just grab a stool, that are everywhere in hospitals and doctors offices, and carry on.

We used to have height requirements on fire departments because of job performance issues, until the government declared them discriminatory. I know one particular fire fighter who is a little over 3 feet tall. He was able to pass all of the physical requirements and out perform many of the other recruits.

Dave H.



Title: Re: Height in the Philippines.........................SALLY
Post by: Jimbo on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Height in the Philippines, posted by Jeff S on Aug 15, 2001

Actually not all companies in the Philippines had height requirements. The tall you are the better.  Also I agree Ray's post below about wanted ad with pleasing personality.  That is very true.

In the Philippines if you are looking for a job it isn't that easy. Some company even if you are qualified for that job but if you don't know somebody in there then they won't accept you. Secondly, mostly working in fast food restaurant like Mcdonald, Kentucky or Jollibee, etc. they only hired those young ones with pleasing personality to attract customers.
While in other countries like Hongkong, Singapore and Malaysia I saw mostly workers are disabled and quite old people working in Fast Foods restaurants. I thought to myself if only Philippines same like HK or Singapore, etc. I think we have a better place. I mean we don't need to go to overseas to work and sacrifice.


Sally



Title: Another problem...
Post by: Dave H2O on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Height in the Philippines.............., posted by Jimbo on Aug 15, 2001

Hi Sally,

Not only do you have to know someone to get hired in the Philippines, you have to have a Master's Degree in "Deep Fry Technology" and minor in " Chemical Properties of Frying Oils" just to make french fries. A slight exaggeration but not too far from the sad truth.

Dave H.



Title: Re: Another problem...
Post by: kevin on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Another problem..., posted by Dave H2O on Aug 15, 2001

Now Beavis and Butt-head should appreciate how lucky they are to have a job at Burger World.  Although creative with adding curly fries and mice to the menu, I doubt either one of them have any degree in frying technologies or chemical properties.

- Kevin



Title: Re: Another problem...
Post by: Jeff S on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Another problem..., posted by Dave H2O on Aug 15, 2001

I guess it has to do with lots more people looking for jobs than jobs for them to fill?
-- Jeff S.


Title: Re: Re: Another problem...
Post by: Dave H2O on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Another problem..., posted by Jeff S on Aug 15, 2001

Jeff,

Few "good" jobs and many applicants is big problem in the Philippines. Employers can be very selective and require high qualifications. In the US, if you are over-qualified, you usually don't get the job. I have heard that some people leave things off their resumes.

Dave H.



Title: Re: Re: Re: Another problem...
Post by: rgg on August 16, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Another problem..., posted by Dave H2O on Aug 15, 2001

Dave,

You're right for one job opening in the Phil. there will be hundreds applying for it and indeed, the employer gets to be very selective hence the strict requirements in physical as well as educational and experience qualifications.

rgg



Title: Re: Re: Re: Another problem................SALLY
Post by: Jimbo on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Another problem..., posted by Dave H2O on Aug 15, 2001

Dave, here in USA if you are over-qualified---it means you are over paid.  If you are under-qualified----it means you are under paid. {o_O}

Sally



Title: Re: Height in the Philippines
Post by: SteveG on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Height in the Philippines, posted by Jeff S on Aug 15, 2001

Jeff,
 To add to what Ray said below, being taller and lighter skined is considered more attractive in the Philippines.   So if you are in business you obviously want the employees who meet your customers to make the best impression possible, so you hire the tallest, fairest skinned ladies you can.

 Then us guys from the US come along and often prefer the shorter, darker ladies and turn the whole system upside down!  LOL

                                      SteveG



Title: Oh well, I guess in the Philippines beauty is business. (O_o)......NT/..............SALLY
Post by: Jimbo on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Height in the Philippines, posted by SteveG on Aug 15, 2001

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Title: Sex Appeal?
Post by: Ray on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Height in the Philippines, posted by Jeff S on Aug 15, 2001

Jeff,

It’s typical in the Phils to hire someone based primarily on looks, age, sex, marital status, etc. All those things that you can’t even ask over here. This is especially true for jobs involving contact with the public, like sales girls in a department store. I think a lot of it is based on the “sex appeal” of the prospective employee, like the airlines here used to do with stewardesses for example. They just haven’t caught up with us yet in the political correctness krapp. Give them a few more years… (LOL).

Ray



Title: Typical Help Wanted Ads in Phils
Post by: Ray on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Sex Appeal?, posted by Ray on Aug 15, 2001

Here’s a few examples of a help wanted ads from an old copy of the Cebu Sun Star that I had laying around:

WANTED
Female College Graduate
-has knowledge of MS Word & Excel
-single
-age 19 to 23
-preferred commerce graduate

WANTED
Promo Girls
At least 5’3” in height with pleasing personality

OFFICE PERSONNELS
-Female, bet. 21-25 years old
-A graduate of BS Commerce or any business related courses
-Computer literate
-Familiar with clerical works
-Fresh graduates are welcome
Submit your résumé, 2x2 photo & transcript of records for an interview at...

Note: It is fairly standard practice to require a photo with your application.

Ray



Title: Correct!
Post by: Peaches on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Typical Help Wanted Ads in Phils, posted by Ray on Aug 15, 2001


I just remember when I applied to 4 different
companies. I spent a lot for picture! Gosh!!!!!



Title: Re: Correct!
Post by: humabdos on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Correct!, posted by Peaches on Aug 15, 2001

I bet after looking at your pic they where all fighting over you! :-)   Humabdos


Title: My requirements! ;o)))
Post by: Dave H2O on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Typical Help Wanted Ads in Phils, posted by Ray on Aug 15, 2001

Ray,

Those sound like my requirements for a wife. LOL Well..except I didn't have a height requirement. I also included auto mechanic, pilot/with own plane, chef, master brewer, computer programer, accountant, financial investor, swim suit model, and fitness instructor. If she met all of those, I figured I could hire a maid.  ;o)))

Dave H.



Title: you forgot one more thing...tess
Post by: Stephen on August 15, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Typical Help Wanted Ads in Phils, posted by Ray on Aug 15, 2001

must be a graduate of the following schools: University of the Philippines, La Salle, Ateneo  blah, blah (meaning you're really with brains)