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I dont understand carisse, your apparent contradiction
in your beliefs

)on the one hand you attack pen pal sites, as trafficking
pinays, and say that pinays dont make the best wives they
are people just like anyone else, and we must choose
wisely, etc etc, The penpal sites are not trafficking
pinays, a lot of good marriages come from those sites
and as Jean says, the men are only buying addresses from
which, they women can choose to respond or not to respond
to their letters, depending on the mans pic and his way
of words and sincerity, the women are free to not respond,
or respond, and correspond with 20 men if they wish, if they
decide after corresponding and meeting the man, they will
pursue a future with him, Nobody is holding a gun to her
head, or his head.
     It seems to me that the Pinays who come to the usa
under any other circumstances than penpal or intro service
look down on the pinays who met that way, as desperate,
Well Carisse, you are a pinay who married a foreigner,
what makes you any better than them, huh? the answer is
Nothing, you might think you are better but you are the
same as them, you wanted to better your life, and you met
a man who you fell in love with, so wat.

2)then you defend pinays like the ex fiancee of Zeb
even though she was one the bad pinays you like to talk
about, who used her husband, to get to the usa, and
was deceitful to him the whole time, I dont get your line
of reasoning, on the one hand pinays are just women, no
better no worse than any other country , and they dont
make the best wives according to you, but when we find
an unfaithful deceitfull pinay like zebs ex, you defend
her to the death just becuase she is a pinay, what gives??

... in response to to Carisse, Wat gives, posted by outwest77 on Aug 2, 2001

several months ago, after my unpleasant ordeal with several filipinas whom I met on penpal sites, Carrisse was very agitated and critical of me that I "interogated" some of these fine girls to try to understand what their intentions were and what they were after. She was not nice about it, and she could not seem to come to grips with the fact that some of them are not the sweet, honest, loving creature that they portray. At that point in time every filipina was a goddess, if you were to believe her.

Now, I missed a few days, and when I come back I am led to understand that SHE is downgrading these same lovely girls??????

Now before anyone gets in an uproar, I personally try to take everyone on a personal basis and not stereotype. I admit that I am not perfect, and sometimes I fail in my own rules of order.

I guess this proves the point I was trying to make to her, that there are good and bad in every wolf's den. But sometimes the odds alter according to where and by what means you meet the wolf.

To those who have been successful in this route I applaud you, I know it can and does happen. However, I will not choose this route in the future.

To Carrisse, I think everyone here accepts your input anyway. You do keep things lively, even though you always disaggree with somebody. Possibly if you were a normal person instead of a princess or goddess you could understand the ways of the wicked. Perhaps not. Perhaps you will never understand anyway. Try not to put yourself so far above others, it will just bring you crashing down later.

Larry.

... in response to to Carisse, Wat gives, posted by outwest77 on Aug 2, 2001

Outwest,
 Darn it, if I had read your post first, I wouldn't have had to write the one below agreeing with Jimbo!  
                                         SteveG

... in response to Re: to Carisse, Wat gives, posted by SteveG on Aug 3, 2001

Hi Steve,

Outwest said it well and so did you!  Thank you so much.  It's good to hear others who appreciate the good that can come from penpal introduction services.  Finding a lifetime partner that is right for you is a wonderful, almost magical thing.  Why do some people fall back on the tired old stereotypes?  I suppose it's just intellectual laziness; they don't want to examine the truth of the matter.

My wife is going to college this September, in the evenings.  I've encouraged her to do this - I tell her to follow her dreams.  As a husband I want to support her in whatever she needs to feel fulfilled in life.  Is that the attitude of a person who is only interested in a pretty face?

Is there ANYONE on this board who considers his future or current wife just a pretty face, number, and short bio?  Who out there does NOT understand that his potential lady or wife is "so much more than that" ?  Is there anyone out there that is that stupid?  Are there any cavemen out there?

Please, if so, I would like to hear you state your opinion.  Seriously.

Jim