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Title: An Important Announcement Post by: burbuja2 on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM The banning of Batman is an outrage. The only thing he was promoting was a lifestyle. Others on this site have made reference to artistic photographs. Others on this site have discussed the possibility of renting out rooms. Why is Batman treated any differently? Is it because he likes to party politely, spritely and all of the nitely? Or perhaps it is because he's a bright young man who's nobody's boy. In any event, I wish you all the best of luck in discussing which agency in Cali is the best or the particular merits of Brazilian vs. Colombian females because gentlemen, I will no longer be participating in this forum
Title: Re: An Important Announcement Post by: pablo on November 14, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to An Important Announcement, posted by burbuja2 on Nov 9, 2003
[This message has been edited by pablo] Burbuja, I am surprised at your position about no longer wanting to contribute to the board. I have enjoyed your posts and your sense of wit. However, don't do the I'm taking my marbles home routine because you happen to think Patrick is being unfair about posted rules. Seriously though, how much did Batman contribute to the board other than a hedonistic lifestyle and hawking the "bat-mansion"? Batman probably has a wealth of information to post about Brasil and Colombia having lived in both of these countries yet I can't recall any useful posts about his experiences. Your contribution to the board being an attorney and having lived in El Salvador could be very useful. I hope you reconsider and remain rather than complaining about a lack of freedom of speech/lifestyle/"artistic" photos and then splitting. Pablo Title: You know..... Post by: Jeff S on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to An Important Announcement, posted by burbuja2 on Nov 9, 2003
Though Batman broke some board rules, he seems to know his way around Cali, so I'm fairly sure he'd be given another chance if he contacted Patrick and agreed to follow the board rules. Other people have been unbanned in the past, and other business owners post here - like Jack on the Russian board. They simply follow board policy when they post. - Jeff Title: Re: An Important Announcement Post by: Cali James on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to An Important Announcement, posted by burbuja2 on Nov 9, 2003
Nine out of ten guys, who swear they'll never post again on P.L., end up posting again for whatever reason. Maybe they just like to hear people say, "pleeeaasse don't leave" or they calm down after a few days of r and r, who knows. Anyway, just once I'd like someone to actually follow through on their outrage and leave. (-: Now, back to the supposed outrage. You got to be kidding me, batman is all hype. He's promoting himself as the Hugh Hefner of Cali and trying to find enough fools to buy into this fantasy at a rate of $125 a night. By the way, I'm willing to bet the batmansion is really a batcondo, the giant private pool is the condo community pool and the batmobile ain't sitting in Cali but in someone's drive way in the States. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with a one time promotion of a legitimate service, but this guy was non-stop on this for days. Also, if you've been around here for any length of time at all, you'd know that Patrick does not allow excessive business promotion. In my own opinion, I think his advertising is better suited to the TSM crowd which Patrick has made clear over the years he wants nothing to do with here on PL.. I'm not a prude but the absolute worst thing that could ever happen to the MOB business (for lack of a better word) would be for it to have any association what so ever with prostitution or the sex travel industry. There's already a big stigma against agencies and marrying gringos for this very reason in Cali. A lot of the nicer women in the agencies don't tell their families that they belong to an agency. Anyway, my own opinion is that few Calenas with any class would join an agency if they believed the sex trade was involved in it. I'm not saying there wouldn't be Calenas joining up, but they have a name for them in Cali, they're called foofooroofas (sp). Title: Re: foofooroofas Post by: cancunhound on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: An Important Announcement, posted by Cali James on Nov 10, 2003
Another term used to refer to those type of gals is that they "work for the DEA" {Hint the letters stand for something other than the obvious US agency} Title: foofooroofas? Post by: John O on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: foofooroofas, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003
And what might those 3 words be? Also, I request a spelling & definition of fufurufas... Title: Re: DEA Post by: cancunhound on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to foofooroofas?, posted by John O on Nov 10, 2003
I wouldn't want to give it away without some attempts at guessing. I'd be curious to see how many others have heard that phrase in Colombia - 1st time I heard it was last week. But OK a hint - 1st letter is Spanish for "under, beneath, down, below" - you can find plenty of girls that work for the "DEA" on avenda sexta. Title: D.E.A. Guess Post by: John O on November 11, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Title: Re: D.E.A. Guess Post by: Cali vet on November 11, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Title: Bingo (n/t) Post by: cancunhound on November 12, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Title: What's My Prize? Post by: John O on November 12, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Bingo (n/t), posted by cancunhound on Nov 12, 2003
Lemme guess... the Booby prize? Title: Re: What's My Prize? Post by: cancunhound on November 12, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to What's My Prize?, posted by John O on Nov 12, 2003
Curious, was that a flat out guess, a web search result or did someone tell ya? Title: Bully for Me Post by: John O on November 16, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: What's My Prize?, posted by cancunhound on Nov 12, 2003
Sheer bilingual genius, Dr. Holmes. That, and a bit of inductive logic. Or is it deductive logic? Title: Re: Re: DEA Post by: Cali vet on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: DEA, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003
Well the other word is fufufura with accent on the second sylable. Now this one begins with 'debajo" but we're stumped on the rest. Title: Re: Re: Re: DEA Post by: cancunhound on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: DEA, posted by Cali vet on Nov 10, 2003
Check with Mrs. CaliVet if she has heard it - I got the impression it was phrase unique to Cali, and not typically privy to gringos. Debajo indeed is the 1st one. {webhost contacted me today and informed me CaliGringo.com is queued for reload, just not sure what data will be salvaged in the forum yet - I hadn't backed it up in a while} Title: That's Good news!n/t Post by: Cali vet on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Title: Re: An Important Announcement Post by: Pete E on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to An Important Announcement, posted by burbuja2 on Nov 9, 2003
I for another would like you to stick around also.I thought Batman was interesting and I admire his entrepenual spirit,but he did step over Patricks line.Nude photos and advertising can get you banned quickly,as can discussions of prostitution and trying to harm someones relationship. As far as bad behavior,Patrick tolerates alot before he bans someone. Pete Title: Batman tried to rent me a room in his house for $125/night Post by: elcolombiano on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to An Important Announcement, posted by burbuja2 on Nov 9, 2003
I thought this group was for helping each other out. Batman was offering his house as if he were our budy and was looking for freinds. When I inquiered with him that I was intrested in renting out his entire house for a month he tried to charge me $125/night. I was outraged. Title: Re: Batman tried to rent me a room in his house for $125/night Post by: Kiltboy1 on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Batman tried to rent me a room in his ho..., posted by elcolombiano on Nov 9, 2003
I have stayed at Batmas house under the previous ownership , and if he was charging 125 dollas per night for the whole condo(it is a condo) , then that would be a steal Title: How about $75 a night for the whole thing? Post by: Pete E on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Batman tried to rent me a room in hi..., posted by Kiltboy1 on Nov 10, 2003
One of my friends rented a 3 bedroom 3 bath condo in the brick high rise next to Chipi Chapi for $75 a night,for a week.Very nice newer place,great location,just walk next door to Chipi Chapi.And thats high when you consider it would only bring about $600 a month on the long term market. Pete Title: Re: How about $75 a night for the whole thing? Post by: Cali James on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to How about $75 a night for the whole thi..., posted by Pete E on Nov 10, 2003
Howdy Pete, I didn't go into the exact apartment your friend rented. But I checked out a few of the smaller units for rent in several of the highrises next to chipi. I think they're all more or less the same. They were 3 bedrooms but only about 1200 sq feet total but with privilege to the community pool. They were modern and nice but the rooms were a bit small for my liking. Anyway they were renting two years ago for about 650,000 pesos a month unfurnished. They were selling for a little more than 70,000,000 pesos but I believe the price has risen since then. Anyway, $600 a month in the unfurnished condo market should get you a very very nice penthouse. You'll most likely have to sign a 6 month to 1 year lease though...but then again everything is negotiable in Cali. Title: Re: Batman tried to rent me a room in his house for $125/night Post by: Ralph on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Batman tried to rent me a room in his ho..., posted by elcolombiano on Nov 9, 2003
Let's be honest. the ENTIRE house for a month? $125 is a GREAT deal for a house like that. Title: The entire house - not Post by: elcolombiano on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Batman tried to rent me a room in hi..., posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003
Not the entire house for $125, just one bedroom Title: Read your original post Post by: Ralph on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to The entire house - not, posted by elcolombiano on Nov 9, 2003
You said you tried to rent out the entire house for a month. Even at 125 that doesn't seem bad. It was obvious he was promoting a biz here. Latinlove was 100 per night so 125 doesn't sound bad. Just because I wouldn't stay there, doesn't mean I would say he was ripping people off. Title: Re: $125/night Post by: cancunhound on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Read your original post, posted by Ralph on Nov 10, 2003
That actually sounds pretty fair if that includes meals, maid, & airport pickup. I did notice however the Batman updated his website: "The women that come to the Batman-sion are not escorts - they are regular Cali girls ranging from college students, to doctors, and even educated women that are happy being house wives to their potential husband. ~~~ However, if you so desire escorts, that is perfectly acceptable, your hosts Batman, Ximena, and Angela will ensure that your Cali experience exceeds your expectations."
One can put a saddle on a duck all day long - that still doesn't make it a horse. Title: Re: Re: $125/night Post by: Cali James on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: $125/night, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003
I doubt he was successful with anyone on this board. Beyond the hype, he's not really offering much but a room at $125 a night. Title: For $125 a night the girls should come with it Post by: Pete E on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: $125/night, posted by Cali James on Nov 10, 2003
Which is kind of what he was hinting.Thats an outrageous amount of money in Cali for a room without even a private bath.He has 4 bedrooms,2 baths he said. Pete Title: Correction Post by: DallasSteve2 on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to For $125 a night the girls should come w..., posted by Pete E on Nov 10, 2003
Oh, you wanted the price WITHOUT women. Why didn't you say so? The Boy Wonder Title: Price w/out the bat girls is $69 Post by: cancunhound on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Correction, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 10, 2003
At least so it's posted here: http://www.cali-bedandbreakfast.com/ Identical photos of the some of the rooms, pool and condo can be found there to that which is currently posted of the Batmansion. So I wonder did the former owner sell it outright, just lease if to the Batman, or are one or both of these operations just a scam? I hope it's not the latter, I can't stand thieves. Title: Well... Post by: lswote on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Price w/out the bat girls is $69, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003
This picture here http://i.b5z.net/i/u/94510/i/W24.jpg from cali-bedandbreakfast.com shows some girls reclining by the pool. The EXACT same picture is on Batman's page here This highly suggests that Batman is up to no good. Holy Hijinks! Title: Re: Well... Post by: Karl on November 12, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Well... , posted by lswote on Nov 10, 2003
All this caused me to look at his site again. He has a phony picture on the first page that was a joke circulating the internet. It was for a charity for jeans for the poor, and the subject was how terrible it was that the poor had to wear such terrible clothing and was a heart jerker. Then you got the gif with this girl using the jean strip for her bikini top. It was funny, still have it on my hard drive somewhere. Misleading advertising is against the law in the US, and it is also common sense not to do this. I am questioning Batman's commitment to integrity. Title: Re: Well... Post by: Karl on November 12, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Well... , posted by lswote on Nov 10, 2003
All this caused me to look at his site again. He has a phony picture on the first page that was a joke circulating the internet. It was for a charity for jeans for the poor, and the subject was how terrible it was that the poor had to wear such terrible clothing and was a heart jerker. Then you got the gif with this girl using the jean strip for her bikini top. It was funny, still have it on my hard drive somewhere. Misleading advertising is against the law in the US, and it is also common sense not to do this. I am questioning Batman's commitment to integrity. Title: Re: Re: Well... Post by: mar33 on November 12, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Well... , posted by Karl on Nov 12, 2003
Hey, I saw the exact same picture of that girl wearing a jean bra on some other website too. In fact, I think it was a website with American girls,so she is not even from Colombia. I guess he was trying to make his website a bit more interesting. Mark Title: Re: Re: Re: Well... Post by: Michael B on November 12, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Well... , posted by mar33 on Nov 12, 2003
Probably 'Drunk Spring Break Girls' or something similar? Hey, all this posting about Batman got me curious enough to go look at his site again. He's added another page of girls and says the New Year's Eve pool party is sold out.....hope they're all players, I'd hate for an honest wife seeker to get sucker punched by the likes of him and his 'stable'. Title: Re: Well... Post by: DavidMN on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Well... , posted by lswote on Nov 10, 2003
I guess I'm in a grumpy mood today or it's because tomorrow is Veteran's Day, but I don't like the picture of the girl with the American flag shoved up her butt. Mick Jagger probably started it all when he popularized the Union Jack as clothing. :-( -David Title: Re: Price w/out the bat girls is $69 Post by: Cali James on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Price w/out the bat girls is $69, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003
Good catch, the original owner is a good guy, his name is Charles and I met him a few years back at Latin-Love. He married a Calena and they bought this same condo and were renting it out. Maybe batman is leasing the place...who knows... Title: Re: Price w/out the bat girls is $69 Post by: DallasSteve2 on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Price w/out the bat girls is $69, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003
Good catch. Maybe he's just acting as a front like a lot of US "agencies" that contract with Cali agencies and take a cut. Which reminds me, I can rent you that room at the BatMansion for only $100. Steve Title: Re: Re: Price w/out the bat girls is $69 Post by: cancunhound on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Price w/out the bat girls is $69, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 10, 2003
You know the BatMan had a pretty good plan going! Maybe I should consider a similar setup with my condo in Ingenio (hell even my maid's quarters has a private bath!). Airport pickup,guarded, gated 24 hour security, cable TV in each room, maid service, meals, free Spanish lessons during your stay (IOW your host will not be able to communicate in English), exclusive private parties at the clubhouse, unlimited introductions to any gal you choose off the street. How does $140 per night sound? I think I'll call it GringoGulch - I'll get to work on the website and PayPal link right away. Title: Maybe - - Post by: Pete E on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Price w/out the bat girls is $69, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003
The $125 price is for the New years time slot where he is pushing his party.Hotels will definetly have seasonal rates depending upon demand. Pete Title: Re: Maybe - - Post by: cancunhound on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Maybe - - , posted by Pete E on Nov 10, 2003
Maybe someone should try renting the room at the $69 dollar rate and save some money - plus enjoy a free pool party (it is a community pool right - I wouldn't expect a bunch of naked bunnies laying around!). The reservations form is still up and running - http://www.cali-bedandbreakfast.com/reservations Title: He was promoting a ripoff Post by: elcolombiano on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Read your original post, posted by Ralph on Nov 10, 2003
$125 a night for a room in a house in Cali is a ripoff Title: How do you think Bruce Wayne got to be a millionaire? Post by: DallasSteve2 on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Batman tried to rent me a room in his ho..., posted by elcolombiano on Nov 9, 2003
He didn't do it with charity work. Just kidding. You're right on target. His whole plan is a lot more commercial than his first few posts let on. Steve Title: Re: An Important Announcement Post by: DallasSteve2 on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to An Important Announcement, posted by burbuja2 on Nov 9, 2003
I wish you would reconsider. You'll be missed, at least by me. Steve Title: Re: An Important Announcement Post by: Ralph on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to An Important Announcement, posted by burbuja2 on Nov 9, 2003
I don't think her should have been banned so quickly, but then again it isn't my board. I don't think Patrick ever allowed such blatant promotion of services however. Perhaps a warning would suffice. Though others have posted tha patrick did post a warning and then deleted it? I do find it very hypocritical that the good ole boys so vehemntly defend batman and calipro, but the guy that used to ge their "troll fighter" would have freaked out over both of them immediatley. Houndog called a guy that moved to Mexico to study spanish a "player". He went on to really bash the guy, and none of the "good ole boys" would take sides against their "troll fighter" hound dog. Title: Houndog Post by: DallasSteve2 on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: An Important Announcement, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003
I don't know who counts as a good ole boy, but I like CaliPro. And I was never one of Houndog's supporters. I view him as one of those bitter, inconsiderate types who treats people with contempt, always has to be right, and always has to have the last word. I'm glad he's gone. Steve Title: Maybe Post by: Ralph on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Houndog, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 10, 2003
But when HD was bashing a guy for moving in with hsi elderly mom to help her.. . .I don't remember you coming to the guys defense. When HD called the same guy a player for moving to mexico to study spanish, saying the guy was a player because he wanted to "date" women.. . . . . . I didn't see you coming to his defense. When a guy posted about asking a girl in the mall directions to the food court and asking her to join him, and HD trashed the guy as a player and women in the mall as less serious than the agency girls.. . . .again not many came to that guys defense. OTOH....CP has bragged about his "conquests", bragged about "stringing them along" for 150 per month, talked about paying 150 bucks to meet a girl that already has 3 novios, getting engaged to a woman that already had a novio, and then sends some thugs to rough him up and ruins her reputation when she wouldn't ditch the guy she REALLY loves. CP posted pics of ladies that were not comfortable with it, and shrugged it off as if the ladies have no rights. CP posted his ex wifes cell number on a place he says he is scared of the "whackos" out there. CP, gets defended by the "good ole boys", while HD who is 180 degress polar opposite did as well. I have to laugh at the lack of consistency. I would love if HD was still here, just so I can watch the good ole boys take sides. . . . . .or not. Title: What logic! Post by: DallasSteve2 on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Maybe, posted by Ralph on Nov 10, 2003
Ralph I didn't defend those people? You know what else? I was in Dallas 40 years ago and I didn't save President Kennedy's life either. All I had to do was stop him at the airport and tell him there were shooter(s) waiting downtown, but I didn't do it. Of course, I was only 7 at the time, but it was my job as an American to defend him. Right, Ralph. Get real! Numero uno - Much of the time that Houndog was posting here here I wasn't posting. I started as DallasSteve (after he was already a "good ole boy" and then stopped posting for about 6 months or so and then came back as DallasSteve2 because the old account was inactive and I couldn't restart it. Numero dos - When I was posting I often disagreed with Houndog. (But a lot of that is not in the archives because Patrick deleted those banal threads). Numero tres - When he returned for a short time again this year, I clashed with him again. Did you see that? Numero quatro - Since when is it my job to defend someone? The fact that I didn't defend certain people doesn't really prove much, especially if I wasn't an active poster at that time. Steve Title: Re: An Important Announcement Post by: Red Clay on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to An Important Announcement, posted by burbuja2 on Nov 9, 2003
Whether or not his being banned was "fair", the lifestyle he promotes is not worth much to those looking for marriage material. None of the girls that hang out there look like legitimate marriage material for those whose idea of marriage involves more than showing off your hot Latin bride for a couple of years till she moves on. I wasn't offended by his posts/pictures, I just considered them irrelevant to the purpose of this site. He is still in his twenties and it shows, his priorities are pretty different than most of the men here. Title: Re: Re: An Important Announcement Post by: valuedcustomer on November 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: An Important Announcement, posted by Red Clay on Nov 9, 2003
You hit the nail on the head. Is this a board for promoting lifestyle or for supporting men looking for wives? They are two different functions. Anyone who knows anything about Latin America has to just sit back and smile at guys who are on an ego trip because they can get a date in Colombia. Anyone on this board could get an album full of pictures taken with a room full of young and nasty chicas from most any Latin American country. It’s no effort at all and doesn’t mean anything. Getting a good wife is much more difficult and we can all do much better without the distraction. Title: Better place to post Post by: Ralph on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: An Important Announcement, posted by Red Clay on Nov 9, 2003
I think someone already pointed out that TSM where batman I guess used to be a regular, is a better place for those types of posts? Title: Re: Better place to post - TSM? Post by: DavidMN on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Better place to post, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003
For those of us not in the know, what does TSM stand for? Thanks, David Title: Re: Re: Better place to post - TSM? Post by: Ralph on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Better place to post - TSM?, posted by DavidMN on Nov 9, 2003
Hmmm. . . . .not really sure. It is a travel site mostly for "adventure tourism" and "sex tourists". I had found that site years ago when I did a search on the DR. I was a member for a while. There was some good info there not related to sex tourism etc. I still stay at many of the hotels that were recommended and eat at some of the restaurants that were recommended. In some ways it is like this place. I like getting info on things to do, and places to see in various countries etc. Most of what gets posted here is of no interest to me, but there is enough to keep coming back. Title: Re: Re: Better place to post - TSM? Post by: Keith Smith on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Better place to post - TSM?, posted by DavidMN on Nov 9, 2003
David, TSM stands for "Travel and The Single Male." Later. Title: farewell Post by: zack on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to An Important Announcement, posted by burbuja2 on Nov 9, 2003
When I read your profile, no wonder you are outraged. You are an attorney who once owned an adult-oriented business. Patrick has a family and doesn't have time to monitor every move that is made on this board. Yes, some active members have broken a rule from time to time but with batman, he broke two rules: He schilled his agency and he posted semi-nudes. As much as I liked Batman, I can't blame Patrick for banning him. Zack Title: Re: farewell-I agree Post by: Zorrowins on November 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to farewell, posted by zack on Nov 9, 2003
I agree with Zack for what that's worth. Number 1 honestly this is Patrick's web site, and we are his guests(and no I'm not being a suck up unless my honest opinion makes me one). So to flagarently disregard his rules, is to invite banning. If I can't stand the rules, then I should move on. Secondly, it was dubious to me exactly what Batman was promoting. However, the girls were BEAUTIFUL, and I certainly enjoyed the view!!!! I still wonder if for $125 a day rent Batman charged, did that include only the house? (Ha-Ha!) |