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Since I would de-list any agency where I find any nude photos, I've banned Batman.  He was obviously using the board for promotion, and since his site has nudes on it, he's gone.

... in response to Banned, posted by Patrick on Nov 8, 2003

I have read some of the comments below, and I feel the moderator should be supported in this decision.

First, there are only six simple rules to this Message Board.  To see the rules go to “Forum FAQ” and scroll to the bottom of the page.  The primary purpose of this board is to support men looking for wives.

The moderator doesn’t needs to give anyone warnings or lengthy explanations to ban someone.  He has a life beyond babysitting Planet Love and the burden shouldn’t be on him to give extra consideration to little morons who can’t read.  On balance, in the past, he has been too tolerant to destructive posters.

The second consideration is that anything that even has the appearance of promoting prostitution will have a tangible degrading effect on the environment for men looking for wives.  Fortunately, the moderator recognizes this and apparently cares more than others.  The reality of this will become apparent to some of you after you have married a stranger from Colombia and a few months later she cleans your clock in a divorce court.

 

... in response to Banned, posted by Patrick on Nov 8, 2003

My thoughts on this are probably what most men think. All of us would probably would like to live the Hugh Hufner style of living for a short period of time. This is what Batman did for many of us, giving us the fantasy, not the reality of life in Colombia. In fairness to Patrick, this is his board and his rules should be followed. I have been posting for several years now and everyone on here knows the rules.  Remember, gentlemean, reality and the Batman's life style are two different scenes.  I want to find a wife that i would be proud of in church and as a step-mother to my children. We can dream

Beattledog

... in response to Banned, posted by Patrick on Nov 8, 2003

I liked Batman but I can't argue with Patrick's decision. I just wish that some people got a warning before being banned. Batman broke the rules but he seemed down to earth and never spit venom at anyone despite being criticized. He probably would have shaped up his posts if he had a warning. Other people, like Hans Erich, didn't deserve a warning. He was a venom-spitting nutcase and a warning would have done him no good.

Zack

... in response to Banned, posted by Patrick on Nov 8, 2003

Patrick

You wrote:

"Since I would de-list any agency where I find any nude photos"

I know recently there were a few topless shots on LatinEuro.  I thought Batman's shots went only as far as topless.  If so, are you going to ban LatinEuro or have they removed the few topless shots.

Personally, I think Batman deserves a chance to come back minus the self-promotion.  He was starting to conduct business on the forum itself which I think is wrong.  I also think topless shots should be allowed by the agencies.  This is an international forum and in many European countries that's nothing.

Steve

... in response to Re: Banned, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 8, 2003

Steve,
You have to be carefull making that type of comparison.It might get a different result than you intended.I thought Latin Euro was a fun site to browse,even if Ted says its a total loser to try and use.I guess I can still find them.
Also reminds me of a Colombiana I posted about trying to get a student visa at the US embassy in Bogota.They tell her we know you will just stay there.She tells them if I wanted to do that I could do it on the tourist visa I already have.They say,hey,you're right.They took her tourist visa,tore it out of her passport.
I remember when I was a kid,my cousin got a job working at a fruit packing place that he was supposed to be 16 to work there.Another guy he knew applied,they said  you have to be 16.The guy says what about John E,he is not 16.John gets fired over it.He wanted to kick that guys butt every time he saw him.

Pete

... in response to Oh man look what you did !, posted by Pete E on Nov 9, 2003

Pete

Sorry.  Save your link to that banned agency in your files somewhere.  I won't even dare speak their name again.  That wasn't what I expected would happen, but at least they are getting treated the same way as our ex-superhero.

Steve

... in response to Oh man look what you did !, posted by Pete E on Nov 9, 2003

He just deleted the latineuro listing from the agency listings. Their site is still up and running. Patrick has no power over that. So. . . . if you enjoy browsing that site. . . . .go ahead.

... in response to Oh man look what you did !, posted by Pete E on Nov 9, 2003

Anyway you look at it. Somebody on this board posted a link to my ex-wife's nudy website and Patrick never banned him. Sure it's alright to post links to nudy websites when they are trying to embarass Calipro but not when batman wanted to rent a couple of rooms out.

I say bring them all back! Batman , Aaron, Hounddog and all the rest (even that crazy german guy, I can't remember his name).

Who else is tired of living under harsh sensorship?

... in response to Double standard...., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

I did not agree with who ever posted the site to your ex. In fact it kinda
pissed me off alittle and if that person would have been banned, well he
would deserve it I feel!

... in response to Double standard...., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

It was Hans wasn't it?  He did step on some toes, but I would like to know how his internet method panned out.  Diversity breeds stability folks!

... in response to Double standard...., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

It's only 'censorship' if the government does it. If Patrick (or any other non-government board manager) does it it's 'right to control editorial content'. I'll agree it was a low blow (and was purposely intended to injure/embarrass you) to post the link to your X, but I can't remember who did it.

... in response to Re: Banned, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 8, 2003

I've deleted the latineuro listing.

... in response to Thanks for the heads up, posted by Patrick on Nov 9, 2003

Topless photos were just one reason that "showcase of horrors" wasn't worthy of your site. "Showcase of horrors" is how one brasileira described it to me; she never gave permission to be listed in the first place, and has repeatedly asked to be removed, to no avail. She even went into depression after her photo appeared there, because she appears on a page between two topless women, and she is a very modest type of person. The guy who runs LE is an unscrupulous bag of dirt.

... in response to Banned, posted by Patrick on Nov 8, 2003

Just shoot'em in the back when they're not looking.

So now I'm curious. On a scale of one to ten, how close am I to getting banned?

... in response to What  no warning shot!, posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2003

Your fine,you didn't step over the line with your photos.Batman was showing semi nude girls plus plugging his agency,house or whatever.
Plus you tend to keep your cool and not overeact to negative posts.
Actually it seems pretty hard to get banned around here.If its just for behavior it seems it needs to be real bad for awhile.But semi nude photos,advertising or specifics on prostitution can get you a one strike and your out.

Pete

... in response to What  no warning shot!, posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2003

For the record Patrick did post a warning to Batman to remove the nude photos from his site or he would be banned. For some reason Patrick deleted his own post later in the day.

... in response to Re: What  no warning shot!, posted by Cali vet on Nov 9, 2003

There were also several posters here who gave him "unofficial" warnings.

... in response to What  no warning shot!, posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2003

Bring out the eight pounder, put one across her bow.

Aye Aye, Sir.

... in response to A warning shot, posted by Michael B on Nov 9, 2003

Don't take it personaly, Pro. I have no 'sepcial power' to get you banned, nor am I trying to. I was speaking in generalities that anybody familiar with this board who didn't think that Patrick would ban the Batman as soon as he noticed what was going on just isn't very observant.

... in response to Re: A warning shot, posted by Michael B on Nov 9, 2003

n/t

... in response to What  no warning shot!, posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2003

Shoot em in the back. The rules and regs are nothing. When violated it constitutes a shot in the back according to you. You are are the personification of an 'old boy.' When you grow up to be a man, review the rules and write back. Yes, I am PO'ed that the cesspool was allowed to last so long. This list is for information and an interchange of ideas. A testosterone fest wasn't in the description and I didn't appreciate it. You I barely tolerate. No holds barred, shoot your best shot.
JSlo

... in response to Re: What  no warning shot!, posted by JSlo on Nov 8, 2003

[This message has been edited by Calipro]

I can't say I have ever read the rules and regs. I just rely on my good old common sense to keep me out of trouble.

By the way, What would happen if you couldn't tolerate me at all??

Also where are the rules???

... in response to The rules and regs., posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2003

I concur with DallasSteve.  Bravo on the riposte.

... in response to The rules and regs., posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2003

CaliPro

ROTFLMAO again.

You're about the only person on here who can deliver a good clean comeback with some humor.  Thanks again.

Steve

... in response to What  no warning shot!, posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2003

Actually I am glad Patrick finally realized what was happening. I do not
think it was any big loss to the board since you had to be blind not to
see what Batman was up to!! You are still here with your little group but I
hope it will not be long!!

... in response to Re: Actually...., posted by Fuzzyone on Nov 8, 2003

What is it exactly that you don't like about my posts?

... in response to Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2003

Dude your a shark plain and simple. several guys here thought your
pics were great, I didn't! Painting the bras on your conquest yea real
funny. I kept my mouth shut until now, batman put me over the edge.
Reading you and several other guys drooling over his life style. Do
everyone here that are actually looking for a wife and thats a good wife
go start your own web site. You can call it "Conquest are us!"

... in response to Re: Where's the love??, posted by Fuzzyone on Nov 8, 2003

I wasn't drooling over his life style. I prefer mine. Thank you!
I'm looking for a wife and she'll be good to. Good looking, Good company and Good and ready!

I think the point to most of my post can be summed up like this. If you aren't looking for a very attractive sexy latin wife why go to Cali? There are plenty of unattractive american women that would make wonderful wives.

I guess there are guys out there that can't even get the most unattractive american women to take an interest in them and they are contemplating going down to SA to see what they can get. But, I don't like to think about that.

Personally I like to associate with guys that have actually had some degree of success with american women and the reason they are going to Colombia is to get the best there is. Or someone like myself that just plain prefers Caleñas and won't settle for anything less.

I don't know why you would call me a shark. I think I'll be married before you! Also, I have never cheated on one of my wives and there isn't much of a chance I'll cheat on the next. Why? Because there isn't a women in Phoenix that I would prefer over a Caleña and if my next wife has a lick of sense she'll never let me out of her site when we're in Cali.

... in response to Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

calipro,
 And if you had a lick of sense you will not let her out of your sight either. Young latinas coming to the  U.S. may find plenty of AM who she thinks are really "her type" .
   Didn't the ex leave you for a plastic surgeon? Or perhaps she left you and gave the excuse she really had no reason, but women rarely leave for no reason at all. Most leave because someone better came along.Once they realize you are not a BIG fish in a Big pond, but in the U.S. just your average guy who has to work hard to make a decent living, reality sets in. Especially for those "model" types who are spoiled and are extremely naive about the U.S. and modeling and money.
   If your next wife has to monitor you in Cali, I guess you are not yet ready to get married.
  I do agree with you though, that a man who can date nice looking women in the U.S. can usually upgrade a "little" in a foreign country, but not by too much. Otherwise,when she gets here and people let her know everyday she can do better than you,she too will be gone and all you would have achieved is making it easy for some other guy to get a girl you gave a green card to. Good luck.
            Mark

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

mar33

I'm sorry I just can't relate to just about anything you say.

I am just not that fearful of life. No I don't think my new wife is going to leave me and or be disappointed in me in anyway. Why would I????

I think you should read what you wrote below and ask yourself one question. Am I depressed? I'm not trying to be funny but I could never kick myself in the ass with those kinds of thoughts.

"And if you had a lick of sense you will not let her out of your sight either. Young latinas coming to the U.S. may find plenty of AM who she thinks are really "her type" .
Didn't the ex leave you for a plastic surgeon? Or perhaps she left you and gave the excuse she really had no reason, but women rarely leave for no reason at all. Most leave because someone better came along.Once they realize you are not a BIG fish in a Big pond, but in the U.S. just your average guy who has to work hard to make a decent living, reality sets in. Especially for those "model" types who are spoiled and are extremely naive about the U.S. and modeling and money."

Yes, my ex left me for a plastic surgeon and then she left him. I just don't see how another persons actions are a reflection on me. I never could understand that line of reasoning. You can never know for absolutely sure what is in the heart and mind of another person so I try to focus on what is truely in my heart and mind and be true to myself. That's all you can do. If there are no red flags and she says she loves you, you have to believe her why torture yourself with thoughts that you are some how not good enough for her or that she is insincere.

About the only thing you can be absolutely sure about is weather or not she enjoys having sex with you because you can always measure (with a ruler or yard stick as the case my be) the wet spot in the middle of your bed after the two of you have sex. Hell I don't know maybe a woman can even fake a wet spot. The point is don't torture yourself about things you can't do a thing about. Well I guess you could marry a women that nobody else wants but that doesn't seem like a very good solution to me. How about you?

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

[This message has been edited by lswote]

The problem is sex is just one component to a relationship and you are pretty much making it the totality of a relationship.  Among all these young women you have been seeing, certainly a majority of them want children, and no method of birth control is flawless and with all the sex you talk of having, you are just begging to get one of these girls pregnant and then you have a whole different animal on your hands.  Colombians pretty much don't consider abortion, so you then have the moral dilema of whether you want to be responsible for a child or not.

It seems to me you aren't thinking very far into the future.  You are not going to be forty forever.  You are not always going to get off scott-free with few ramifications for your choices.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by lswote on Nov 9, 2003

Iswote

Don't worry yourself about these girls. I'm pretty careful when it comes to having sex and I can prove it. I have no children that I know of. Believe me if I did get one of these women pregnant it wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to them. I would marry her and bring her here or I would buy her an apartment in Cali and take care of my only child. Hell it would be like winning the lottery for some of them.
It isn't my goal to knock any of these women up. But, if it happened I would take care of it.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love..., posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

I have a good friend in Vietnam living your life but in Asia rather than S America (that is the reason I enjoy reading your posts so much).  He bought a VN girl out of a Cambodian "house", (her first lottery prize), then got her pregnant (prize #2) and in order to care for his boy bought her a rice paddy, a new motorcycle and sends her $150/month (prize #3).

She is the wealthiest person in her rural village, and his largess supports her whole family.

I met her personally and she is very happy.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love..., posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

Marrying Calipro and having him as the father of their children equates to winning the lottery?????
I've heard it all now Calipro..............
please guys, don't take this chump so seriously........it's obvious by comments such as this that he's just trying to get a rise out of everyone........either that or he's definitely losing his mind..........

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the ..., posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

All posts that are nothing but personal attacks on Calipro should be e-mailed to: calipro2003@nospam.com  .

Think of all the foul language you can use in a personal e-mail attack that you can't use on this board.

I'll respond in kind; time permitting.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

Measure the wet spot to decide how good it was? LOL !
OK,2 college co eds are living together.One goes out to a party,comes home drunk,is singing and laughing and throwing her clothes as she takes them off.The next morning she says what a party,boy did I have a good time.The other girl says you were so drunk I'm surprised you can even remember having a good time.First girls says "when my panties stick to the ceiling I know I had a good time."

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

CaliPro

Good points.

I'd like to add another.  There's a widely held point of view that if a relationship ends both parties are to blame.  I don't think that's always true.

I'll agree that both parties always make mistakes, we're only human.  However, there are mistakes and then there are relationship-killers.  Sometimes only one of the parties are commiting "relationship-killers".

That is to say, if I had done everything right in my last marriage it still would have failed because she never loved me.  I thought she did.  She said she did.  But she didn't.  That's a "relationship-killer".

Likewise, there may have been nothing you could have done differently that would have saved your marriage.  I don't know.  The fact that it ended proves nothing conclusive in terms of your behavior.

Steve

... in response to Relationship-killers, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

If they don't love you the best you could have done is extend the problem.
I learned that lesson years ago.I was in a relationship with a girl who didn't love me.I did everything I could to make her love me,nothing worked.I was moping around my house one Saturday morning,listening to sad country songs.I noticed 2 things.One,I was actually enjoying moping around in the sadness.Then I just laughed out loud at what I had done.It just hit me they either love you or they don't and if they don't there isn't anything you can do about it anyway.Funny though,that girl came back about 15 years and 30 lbs later and wanted me back.I wasn't interested at all.
I then forgot that lesson  when I went to Colombia.I thought new rules applied,as in I can change her life so much for he better she will love me for sure.Nope.Doesn't work that way.She might stay around for awhile,but probably care for you less and less as time goes on.

Pete

... in response to Basically right, posted by Pete E on Nov 9, 2003

I put that rule above all others. If I wind up breaking up plater on for incompatibility issues etc, at least I never feel bitter or that I wasted time etc.

If the girl is not CRAZY about you, keep looking.

... in response to Number one rule, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

From someone who didn't take the time to be sure  I couldn't agree more.I'm still living with my mistake.No fun to be in the same house as a beautifull woman who wants nothing to do with you.
But not for long now!

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

Calipro,
  I want to marry for life. That may be a bit naive but that is me. There is sex available everywhere. You do not have to marry a woman just because you two have chemistry.

 I have dated quite a few girls who came to this country on their onw. Most barely knew English,some just as beautiful as your ex. But I have learned one thing. I don't care how beautiful a woman is. If she wants to be a model,actress,or she is very young ect, I stay away.They do not know what they want from one day to the next.
 I ,like others like beautiful women, but I am not ruled by that only. I was never starved for attention from girls. I guess that is why I understand beauty is not the only thing relationships are about. Just like I have no respect for a woman who places a man's profession and money before all else.
   There are still tons of latinas in the U.S. Why not use that playing field also if you are so confident? You see a man who truly thinks he is a pro understands he can go anywhere and get the best of the best. Why travel. Oops, I forgot, Phoenix only has ugly women. Well Vegas and Los Angeles are a quick plane trip away. Tons of gorgeous girls there. Some even Calenas I'm sure.But I guess a pro like you only is a pro when the girls are impressionable .
      Mark

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

[This message has been edited by Calipro]

Don't get down on  the young ones. You know there was a time in this country when most of the women got married when they were 18 or 19. Did your mother or grandmother know what they wanted from day to day when they got married at 18 or 19?

Sure there are plenty of beautiful women in Phoenix but a pretty face isn't everything. In case you have never experianced it. The intimate relationship between a Caleña and a Americano and an Americana and a Americano is really some what different. It is hard to put my finger on it. Let me put it like this. I like a woman that goes to the bathroom with the door open and complains if you take a shower without her. The point in the relationship were there are absolutely no inabitions comes around a lot faster with a Caleña.

Why travel? Well, I can for one thing. I prefer to go to the source of the women that I find the most attractive and appealing to me. I feel good about the idea of improving a womans economic situtation and educating her.
Sure I would like to find that special someone that I could spend my whole life with. But, I'm not going to be miserable if it never happens. No matter what you do you can never guarantee that someone will stay with you for ever. Sure you can marry a some what unattractive women with children that doesn't have a lot of options. That will increase your chances of her never leaving you but that just isn't my bag.

mar33, If you really don't want a beautiful wife why travel? IMHO there are plent of unattractive american women that would make wonderful wives. Don't you agree?

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love..., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

You do not ever see shades of gray? You seem to think that between dating only what YOU think are the best 2-3 at an agency and ugly american women, there are no other choices?

You are not the only person to post photos here. many guys have posted photos of their wives or novias. I don't remember any being "unattractive" let alone ugly. Even if they were unnatractive to me or YOU, so what? You assume that the guy also finds the girl unattratctive?

Different people have different tastes. I have posted pics of my novia, and I find her attractive.In fact, I find her more attractive than any of the women in either yours or batmans pictures.  If the rest of the PL members thought she was ugly, I could care less. You OTOH, seem like you need to constantly prove that you can get hot girls. That is not really hard to do, especially when you buy them laptops and send them $150 per month. Heck, they'll even hide their novio for 2 weeks for that. They'll gladly take your cash and bob your knob, but still have the novio that they REALLY love back home.

So. . . .if a woman has a colombian novio, that she LOVES, and agrees to marry you, accept your monthly "donations", laptops, etc etc etc etc. How far removed is she from working in "flora Frescas". Seems you were just on the monthly installment plan rather than COD;-)

... in response to Black and white?, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I just hate to hear guys talking about what they'll settle for and not what they really want.
It doesn't seem like you fall into that catagory. Am I wrong?
The only two women in Cali that I bought computers for I married. I don't just buy any girl a computer. She has to be a contender for the ring.

What's "Flora Frescas"?

... in response to I never said your novia was unattractive..., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

We all look at various traits when choosing a woman. I also like attractive women. I just do not put 98% of the importance on that and sex. It could be because of the net, but you certainly seem to give off an air of superiority as you keep telling guys that "settling" for anything less than a 9 or 10 is not good. You always follow up with, if you want unattractive women stay in the US.

There are plenty of attractive women, that are not model types, that ahve other attributes that attract men. Many men would prefer a 7 or 8 that REALLY loves them than a 9 that has a colombian boyfriend.

I know your way of thinking is the 9 is better because she is "wanted" by someone else. I can honestly say that I find my novia more attractive than the girls in all the pics you posted. That certainly doesn't mean you or other members here would agree. It doesn't matter. The fact that she didn't have a Dominican Novia was not a negative to me, but rather a positive.

She had PLENTY of guys that wanted her. She had just made up her mind that she would rather stay single than put up with Dominican men any more.

When we go out, she can't walk a block without some guy hitting on her. So it was never a case of nobody wanting her, but her not wanting them. She never even looks at the guys throwing out their lines etc. She has zero interest in them.

You also seem to think that great sex is the other major criteria. I am telling you from experience, that once you have a girl that truly loves you, and you become comfortable with each other, you will NEVER complain about sex. My current novia dn ex wife were both "ok" in bed when I met them. The more in love we became the better it was. My ex wife moved into first place on my all time list after maybe 4 months, only to be knocked off by my current novia.

I would never have experienced that if I followed your methods.

... in response to I never said your novia was unattractive..., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

hahahaha............you ARE joking about Flora Frescas, aren't you Calipro????  Let's see, you've been going to Cali how many years now????
Ok....................hehehe

... in response to Black and white?, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

OK, I know I'm usually on the CaliPro bandwagon, but I'm honest enough to say that your analysis pretty well nailed the situation.  

Steve

... in response to Black and white?, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

Ralph,  what happens when the "model" calena gets here to the states only to find out that her prince charming gringo had to drive a taxi cab part time in order to afford the $150 a month that he sent to her???  And some of these guys wonder why they can't KEEP these girls for the long run.  Hell if I was a model, I wouldn't want a guy who had to drive a taxi cab to keep me happy and put money (albiet it only $150) in my pocket, I'd rather stay in Cali and hook up with a mafioso (and most do).

... in response to Re: Black and white?, posted by beenthere on Nov 9, 2003

Well, if she really loves you she won't mind. Hell, if she is reall crazy about you, she'll get a job at a strip club and give you the $500 she makes tax free a nite. Beats the hell out of driving cabs:-)

... in response to Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

How long do you think it will take  a Calena working in a strip club to figure out in the U.S. a man over 40 who has his wife work in those places as a way to make money is considered a loser.Not too long it seems.I hope you are not proud of the fact you bring a woman here letting her family think you will take good care of her, only to introduce her to the sex industry. But for some reason, you probably think you gave her a great oppurtunity.
  It should not take any girl long to realize she does not need to have that sort of life if she wants real money.There are countless of 40+ men who can provide an excellent life without her having to do lap dances and strut around naked all night long.I would love to know what her parents think of you if they ever found out you are the one who steered her towards that life.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by mar33 on Nov 10, 2003

Well, CP's never personally done me any wrong, so I have nothing against him, but, as I've said to him before: I just don't want to be standing next to you when her brother/father/uncle/cousin (or any combination thereof) decide that it's time to defend the family honor.

BTW, the cab business must have picked up (or maybe it's just inflation). $150 a day? Man, that's about what I made in a week when I was doing it (back in the 70's), but it's honest work (P.S. CP -- keep a 1/5 of Beam and a pack of plastic cups in the trunk---if you don't already know this trick, you'd be suprized to learn how much some of your customers think it's worth after the L. stores have closed for the night).

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by mar33 on Nov 10, 2003

mar33

I don't know what kind of guy you THINK I am but I have never introduced a women to the strip club scene. I guess I am going to have to ease up on the hypothetical situtations with you guys.

But I will say this. If I did bring a model from Colombia and introduce her to the strip club scene, 9 times out of ten she would be better off than if I left her in Colombia.
Models don't make squat in Colombia. Don't know were you think the countless 40+ year old men are that could give her a better life than that but I can tell you they sure aren't in Cali. Ninety nine percent of them never got off their butts to go to Cali and the other 50% of the 1 percent that go down there are test driving them with no intention of buying a thing (like beenthere).

I'll tell you some thing dancing with their top off and lap dances are a hell of a lot less degrading than what the average secretary has to go through to get a job!

I was in Colombia with my wife one day and every motel we passed was completely full and this is in the middle of  the day. I asked my wife what was going on. Why would all the motels be jam packed in the middle of a work day. She told me it was secretaries day!!!!!
If you ever want to experiance a male dominated macho society I suggest you buy a plane ticket to Colombia. The average stripper here is 100 times better off then the majority of women left in Colombia.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

Calipro, was this post made before or after your proposed agreement???
by the way..........it's hard to tell if the motels are jam packed, since they all have closed-in garages........not that I know, it's what I heard............

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

You're busted!!!

Pay Up!!

Most of them do have closed in garages. They almost all have a wall that goes around them so it's hard to see the cars. The only time I ever went to one was with my wife. Staying with my mother-in-law was cramping our style. She didn't work and wanted to spend every minute of the day with her daughter. She wouldn't take a hint!
I would have never know that they were all full if we didn't have to drive to twenty of them to find a vacancy!!

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by mar33 on Nov 10, 2003

Plus, what is the woman going to be doing while Calipro is working Sunday nights down at the post office......??????? Looking for a way out???

... in response to Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

so that's how you bring the girls to their "full potential"????  I suppose you're going to "let" them keep a little of the money, aren't you???
But, how do you know if she REALLY loves you???  How do you know she won't leave you??  How do you know she doesn't have a boyfriend on the side????
Tell us from experience.........................

... in response to Black and white?, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

I guess Calipro only gets attention in the U.S by ugly women and thinks those are the only choices that can be had here:)
         He does not understand there are some super hot girls in the U.S. who are willing to go out on dates with a nice guy with potential.(yes,believe it or not there are guys,some average dating beautiful women in the U.S.)But many women here are greedy and self serving most of the time. Most gorgeous girls here have attitude,and I would rather not deal with that.I can assess a girl's charecter very quickly now.
  Besides, if any man were to offer a woman in the U.S. (American standards of course)what Calipro offers to Calenas, they would react the same. Plenty of young girls will date older men(sugar daddies) who offer money and an easy life. You just need a lot more money here in order to be considered "rich".

... in response to Re: Black and white?, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

I have to agree, I think Calipro gets ZERO play from american women, no matter the age, thus his harping on ugly american women.  $150 a month isn't going to impress many american "models", neither a Saturn automobile.

... in response to Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by beenthere on Nov 9, 2003

What do you mean? My ex-wife loved that little car. Not all beautiful women are greedy.Plus most models in Cali will never own a car as nice as that Saturn.

beenthere
Don't judge everybody by your own situation. Not everybody has to travel to Colombia to get laid.
I have said it more than once I'm not much of an AW basher. I can take them or leave them mostly I lay them and leave them. No I don't think I'll be marrying one anytime soon. I prefer easily impressionable caleñas. Yeah I trick them all. LOL!! Well isn't that what you wanted to hear. Now you can all sleep better at night. LOL!!
I'm just as miserable and lonely as you lonely hearts. LOL!! HeHeHe!!!

I was so ugly as a child that my mother had to tie a pork chop to my neck to get the dog to play with me!! LOL!!

Now I have to pay women to love me!! HeHeHe!!

Hey just tell me what it is that you want me to say to make you nuts feel better about yourselves and I'll say it. I'm here to please.

PS. Sorry if me pictures and posts made you all feel insignificant in anyway.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

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What's my situation???, fill me in.............you WISH you had my situation........

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by beenthere on Nov 9, 2003

All things being equal, I think people in general tend to project their attitudes and personal situations on to others. For example,
I think a theif is much more likely to think someone else is a theif compared to the average person.
Or someone that doesn't get laid very often is much more likely to believe other guys aren't getting alot of PLAY from american women.

Based on that I would say your situation is you're not getting much. And no I don't wish I was in that situation. Sorry!

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

And if someone can only date ugly women in the U.S. They assume that is the only choice you have when dating here.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

by the way, never did I bring sex, I simply said you weren't getting an PLAY from AW.........and when I said my situation was better than yours, I wasn't referring to sex.........Sex to me isn't the most important thing in life, only when I'm in a committed relationship do I get true sexual satisfaction.
I do know you're not getting laid by the same type of women as you are in Colombia...........how does it feel to have to lower your standards????  just to get laid........

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by beenthere on Nov 9, 2003

it's better than nothing.

If what you really want is a Caleña ,You know it doesn't really matter how good looking AW is because she'll never hit the spot. Some times I just blow them off just because it doesn't even seem worth the trouble.

Yeah, I know you feel the same way. Sex isn't all that important UNLESS you are in Cali. Quit playing the saint routine with these guys because you sure as hell ain't no saint.

I wonder how many guys buy your bull.

Just think about it logically guys, what kind of a guy goes to Cali 4, 5 or 6 times a year for 10 years and doesn't get married? Yeah, you said it not me!!!

PLAYER!!!

Oh that's right you got married for a few months. Big deal!!!

... in response to It don't feel the greatest but......, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

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Oh, you're getting a little testy aren't you????
Don't forget about my trips to Aruba, Vegas, Mexico, Bahamas, Miami Beach, Bahamas.............
I'm not selling any bull for anyone to buy..........just worry about yourself Calipro, and keep spending your precious working hours defending yourself on the internet.......the more you type, the worse you look.
Yes, I was married one time, and it was my choice to end the relationship.  Also during those 10 years I had COMMITTED realtionships with a few women that lasted more than a year. Unlike you, the majority of my trips have been to visit my novias, NOT to get laid, NOT to conquer women........I spend time getting to know the women, and I will continue to do that.  If I'm in a relationship with a Colombiana, I'm going to take at least 3-4 trips down there, travel with her, before I even THINK about getting married.  Then it will take a few more trips, then a fiance visa.  
I don't jump on the first DESPERATE model type that comes along.......thus I've NEVER been burned by a latina.  I have a lot more to lose than you Calipro.....I'm going to play it smart........if I have to go down there 100 more times, I will, or meanwhile, I might meet a special American woman or a latina here (I'm dating 2 now)........I have alot of possibilities,,,,,,,still young, good looking, have all my hair...........not going to do something stupid, like marry a woman who has a boyfriend, or a woman who has such a low self esteem, and no values to be in porno, then have to worry about her leaving me when the sex gets old and she falls in love with her plastic surgeon...... There is something in the business world called
"due diligence"......before entering into an agreement, purchasing assets or land, everything must be investigated 110%, to protect one's interests...............Calipro, you HAVEN'T been doing your due diligence (only in the bedroom).  Start thinking with the big brain, instead of the one between your legs..............

... in response to Re: It don't feel the greatest but......, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

Nobody on this board wants to read a post that has absolutely nothing to do with anything except to cut me down. You are supposed to e-mail me this crap. Not put it on the board. It's bad enought I have to read it let alone make everybody else have to put up with it to..

Well anyway it sounds like you have justified your next 100 trips to Cali to find the perfect wife ( I mean test drive the girls!!).

See you soon!!!

... in response to beenthere, Nobody on this board......, posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

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No one has to read it, they make a choice to read it when they "click on" my posts........you see Calipro, that's how this board is designed.....they do it with a color scheme...the new un-read posts are blue........if you don't like my posts, just don't click on the blue posts posted by Beenthere......same with Dallas Steve, Cancunhound, Burbuja, everyone else, just don't read my posts.....you see it's very simple...........or can't you resist............there must be something about me that just makes you click on my posts..............there, you did it again, you clicked on this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hehehe

BTW.............it is ok for you to cut down not so attractive women, and Asian women.......remember that post????  To compare Asian women with little boys???  And that's not a cut down???  The only problem is, there are no Asian women around to defend themselves..........that was only a dig at some men on this board who desire Asian women..........but poor little Calipro is getting his feelings hurt because he is being "cut-down", and you haven't cut ME down in the last 48 hours????...........

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

great reasoning Calipro!!!!!!!!!  Damn you're smart!!!  Guess your cab driving days are over..........when's your book coming out, it should be a best seller.........
Also I'm so glad you're so worried about my sex life.........thanks!!!!

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Black and white?, posted by beenthere on Nov 9, 2003

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I am worried about it a little. It's 8:05pm in Phoenix and that makes it about 10:05 in Atlanta. Why is it that a millionare like yourself is playing the planet-love board and not curled up with some cutie. Hell if I was a multi-millionare I sure would be instead of working a my lowly government job. That's right it's Sunday nite and I'm working (your tax dollars hard at work). So the question is who is worst off? Me or You?
I make a lousy $65,000 grand a year if you include the pension contributions. Plus I make about $12,000 clear from boarding horses. So, even if I drive a cab part time I still can't make over $100,000 a year. But, I know one thing if I wasn't working I would be spending quality time with someone. So quite honestly,no I don't think I would trade places with you even if you do make $400,000 a year and are worth over 2 million.

PS. Don't wait up for a response, I have to go to lunch! Believe it or not.

... in response to Now that you mention it....., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

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you're worse off because you are YOU............keep that mail going Calipro!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm glad to know that you're worried about who I curl up with..........you really shouldn't.......beenthere is just fine, thank you!!!!
I can just imagine that "someone" that you spend time with in Phoenix............you probably can't have her more than an hour based on your pay!!!
by the way..........I just got a computer in my house (my first one) and I'm testing it out tonight...........hope that's ok with you.....
now get on home after work and curl up with your AW, ok????

... in response to Re: Now that you mention it....., posted by beenthere on Nov 9, 2003

with the prostitution stuff again. When are you going to realize everybody else in the world isn't like YOU!!

I can't believe you bought a new computer just so you can post on the planet-love board 24-7. HeHeHe!!

... in response to There you go again......, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

at least I'm not doing it on the job...............NOW BACK TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!.............remember neither rain, nor snow, nor dark of night......................

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love..., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

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Calipro,
I will say it again. My fiance is gorgeous. But she is not a teen. She is educated, comes from a good family and I will not be upgrading her life by much.
  Do not assume I date unattractive girls. I am not hard on the eyes,and in pretty good shape.I dated a lot of very pretty latinas and Brazilians in the U.S. But it seems many change really quickly and let the almighty dollar take charge. Especially ones who did not have the education required to make a lot of money in the U.S. I guess perhaps since they did not have money back in their country, they worshipped it quite a lot here.
 I have dated many girls already in the U.S. who have chosen to dance topless or just turned into plain goldiggers. I cannot blame them if that is what they want to do,and if money is their God. But I was in search of a woman with much more self respect than that. I want one who will be a good example and mother to my future children.
  You know, even in the U.S. a decent young guy can find hot girls. It's  charecter and entitlement attitude that turns me off to most. If most  hot AW had the attitude of a humble foreign girl, I would not travel.
   I am beyond the stage in my life where I think dancers,models or actresses are cool dates to show off to my friends.
I am at the stage now,where I have a business that is growing tremendously and preffer to make a great choice,so I do not end up giving half to someone and having a woman with low morals raise my kids. Not all women who have morals and brains are ugly. You should know that. Never assume a woman cannot have it all. It is rare, but beauty,morals,charecter and brains are a very powerful combination.
         Mark

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love..., posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

CaliPro

You're post brings back some powerful memories.  I remember the first night I was with my ex-wife.  I was in the bathroom washing my hands and she walks in sits down on the toilet next to me and urinates.  No woman had ever done that with me before.  The feeling it gave me was indiscribable.  For some reason it seemed very intimate.  

It was like when we got into bed and she draped one leg over my leg before she went to sleep with me for the first time.  It made me feel that she wanted to be close to me.  Things like that, and her empty professions of love caused this impressionable, older man to think that she really did care for me.  And as beautiful as she was in my eyes, all of that impact was only amplified.

It was really rich while it lasted.

Steve

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

Come on Mark give poor Calipro a break don't bust that bubble he has or
who knows what will happen. He has not learned yet that those young
girls are looking for something just maybe not him. Yes I know every girl
that has left him has always came out ahead so whats the harm...... By
the way yes I would go for those young girls too but I am not going to
give them my assets when they find someone better!!!

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Fuzzyone on Nov 9, 2003

Enough of the cat fight please!  Batman posts a link to some artistic pics that were a bit over the top, and gets initially applauded by the board.  CaliPro gets a green light to post much less racier photos that were controversial months ago.  If one can see the forest through the trees, all photos dealt with Colombia - some pretty damn good shots BTW.  Now Batman gets banned and CaliPro takes the heat?  I guess lump me in with the 'good ole boys' partition here.  Taken from Shakespeare's Othello:

"O, beware, my lord, of jealousy!
It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock
The meat it feeds on."

... in response to Meoww!!!, posted by cancunhound on Nov 9, 2003

Cancunhound,
     No green eyed monster here:) I am happily engaged and have travelled enough to know any AM  can have tons of hot babes in Latin America,Russia,Asia.
 My first trip to Costa Rica was a real eye opener. My friends father had a gorgeous 17 year old mistress and he was close to 50. It was not unusual there,and I have had my share of good times in other countries as well.
  Reality is, many of the ladies change once they get here. So it is very important to look into her charecter as well as looks. Also, understand she has to be absolutely in love with you and not the flighty type or else you take a risk.
   I am taking a risk also when I marry my fiance. Most people male and female who see her are struck by her beauty. She is absolutely gorgeous, but she also is a professional,comes from a well to do family and does not think she is all that. She does not party ,and can be found at home at night with her parents. She loves me and shows it often.
   Yes, she has exceptional looks. Probably as close to perfect as I could have hoped for. But in all honesty,had she not been all of what she is,and had the heart she has I would have walked away.I got lucky.
 If something happened and she lost her looks, I would still love her,her beauty inner beauty is what I fell in love with.
  Mark

... in response to Re: Meoww!!!, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

Since you have travelled to so many places before meeting your fiance, I was wondering which agency you met her at.

Zack

... in response to Re: Re: Meoww!!!, posted by zack on Nov 10, 2003

Zack,
      I didn't use an agency.I met her through friends.I try to make friends with people of all cultures,and as soon as anybody invites me to their country as a guest, I'm there:) My fiance is from the Filippines,but very exotic and far from looking like a little boy as Calipro may think:)In fact, her mixture makes her look Latin or Brazilian.
      Before that, I had travelled to many latin countries and the carribean.Brazil, Argentina,Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico,Jamaica, Trinidad ,Turks and Turquiose Islands. But all were mainly just fun vacations. Sometimes with friends or girlfriends that were natives.
    My fiance being a Filippina was not because I was specifically looking for one. Just happened that once I saw her and understood how well she and I were suited, there was no turning back.
    She has never lied to me. Does not drink,smoke or party. Spoils me rotten,and just a sweet girl.Since she is very fluent in English(better than me I think:) we e-mail and talk everyday.I think having to communicate so much through e-mails and phone calls for now are very good for the relationship.
   Plus, I try to get down there every few months(at least an 18 hour trip) to spend a week or so with her and her family.She has already been to the U.S.(her family has good connections.) I was not in a haste to marry,and we decided to take this slow. This is my first marriage,and i want to know 100% this is it.She is due here soon. We will be getting married next year. But do not plan to start a family for the next few years.
          Good luck,
              Mark

... in response to Re: Meoww!!!, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

It is getting silly to keep seeing envy and jealousy brought up. ANYBODY can date hot babes in Cali. So who would be impressed or envious?

... in response to Bingo!!!, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

I agree Ralph, that jealousy thing has been thrown at me a time or two. And for those who know me, they were very ridiculous shots.  I've said it many times, any half-way decent looking guy who can speak spanish and has the gift of gab can get just about any good looking Calena. It's no big deal. And models come a dime a dozen in Cali, problem is few are successful, so when the gringo (described above) comes along, promises to send them money every month (per Calipro's post), sure they're going to jump on it.
Posting pictures of my past girlfriends has never crossed my mind, although I think my pictures would blow CAlipro's & Batman's out of the water (all G-rated pictures by the way).
So guys, cut the jealosy crap, I really don't think it exists.

... in response to Bingo!!!, posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

Since I seem to be on a 'reminds me of a song' kick, I think this one was by Stevie Wonder (or if not, somebody may correct me), is what you are refering to. Anyway:

Good looking girls come a dime a dozen,
find you someone who's gonna give you true lovin'.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Where's the love??, posted by Fuzzyone on Nov 9, 2003

First of all it's better if they never know about your assets. I never show pictures of my house or car or anything like that. If you are like a lot of guys down there with photo albums you are just asking for a gold digger.

Secondly, if she is really into you and the two of you have a lot of sexual chemistry, you really don't need a lot of assets to keep her happy. But, if your sex life goes south, you will need a lot of assets. But, who wants a women like that anyway. Let her go!!!

... in response to What  no warning shot!, posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2003

What if he paints some bras on the topless shots?  I was Rolling On The Floor Laughing when I saw that.

Steve

PS: If you need any help painting bras, I'm the man.

... in response to Banned, posted by Patrick on Nov 8, 2003

Patrick, I don't think Batman really understood the rules, and perhaps deserves a 2nd chance.  If his story is legit he's not "netting" a dime off of the room rental in the ChipiChapi condo.  My perception is that he's just another gringo that's discovered the good life, albeit earlier than most of the rest of us.

Granted I might have been the 1st to warn him of the commercial implications of his posts - and I didn't browse all of his photos so maybe I missed something that was way over the top.  Paramount, I don't recall the BatMan ever having a negative comment to another board member - and as of recent that is commendable.  If there was linked prolific nudity - I understand.  But my guess is given a second chance he can contribute to the board.

Clearly you had reasons to ban his posts, I just have a hunch  that banning his IP address and membership at this point is jumping the gun a bit.

{Plus I was kind of looking forward to a role as the Riddler}

... in response to Banned, posted by Patrick on Nov 8, 2003

Although my post received little attention, I'm in total agreement with your decision. The only thing that was obvious with señor batnik was the old boy syndrome. I'm also suprised at the response of the 'good ol boy' network. They were taken in lock, stock, and barrel. Great barometer of the total sum.
JSlo

... in response to Re: Banned, posted by JSlo on Nov 8, 2003

Guess my earlier posts about 'River City' and 'If I were....(a newbie, a feminatzi, the board moderator)' got deleted in the fray, but I say good riddence to bad rubbish. He was turning this place into a garbage dump.

... in response to Re: Banned, posted by JSlo on Nov 8, 2003

JSLo
  Now he is gone thank god!! Batman knew what he was doing and to
see the comments made by the others really shows what has happened
to this board. Houndog might have caused alot of trouble here but he
did keep guys like this GONE!!!

... in response to Re: Re: Banned, posted by Fuzzyone on Nov 8, 2003

My wife (from Cali) has said to me more than once that gringos have no sense of humor.  To me this looks like a good example of that.

Steve

... in response to What a Colombiana says, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 8, 2003

Sense of humor? I must have missed something? I think you were one of
the guys that was sucking up to batman. I didn't see you posting any of
your conquest on this site. I am getting a divorce from my Peruvian wife
but no matter how I feel about her I still will not post pics naked or other
wise of her here. It is just basic repect dude. Every guy comes here
complaining about A.W.s but how can you being married to a S.A.
justified treating them the same way as A.W.???? One last thing I have a
very good sense of humor but I am not a abuser of woman either!

... in response to Re: What a Colombiana says, posted by Fuzzyone on Nov 8, 2003

Hmmm. If I recall correctly his ex has her own site of her "naked pics".  So she may complain about the competition, or that she's not getting any royalties, or that she doesn't want the amatuer pictures around now that she's gone pro and they aren't up to her quality standards, or she might actually consider any publicity a bonus!!! :)

... in response to Re: Re: What a Colombiana says, posted by Karl on Nov 9, 2003

It's CaliPro's ex with the website.  But they're cut from the same cloth.  My ex could have a website now for all I know.

Steve

... in response to Re: Re: What a Colombiana says, posted by Karl on Nov 9, 2003

I do admit you have me on that one Karl!