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In discussing some failed relationships below one poster wrote: "someone better came along".  Another posted: "when they find someone better".  

Those are very self-deprecating points of view.  They probably weren't consciously intended that way, but we should try to be aware of the subsconcious value judgments that we make about ourselves in relationships.  If someone leaves us for someone else it doesn't mean that someone else is "better" than us.  If just means that your partner wants to be with that other person, for whatever reason.  

What if it's because that other person is more handsome or richer or funnier than us?  None of those qualities means that they are better than us.  It may only mean that the person leaving you is of weaker character or more shallow desires in a partner.

Steve

... in response to Someone better, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

When my beautiful younger AW ended our relationship to "date" another man, it was devestating. I went on a diet and lost 30 pounds, died my hair from gray to brown,had lasik surgery to ditch the thick glasses, redoubled my efforts at the gym-lifted weight and 60 minutes daily aerobics, and now use anti-wrinkle cream. And honestly women now respond more positively to me because I feel better about myself. So now when I go South, I'll look as good as possible with more positive self esteem.

I still think that a beautiful Latina that is just a "run of the mill" girl in her country will have a tough adjustment here. In the Northeast she will have much younger, richer, & handsomer AM at her feet. Imagine the reverse. You and your not so pretty AW you JUST married and only spent maybe 3-4 weeks together courting because you worked overseas(you "dated" 1 year) move to Colombia. Would not the temptation be great?

... in response to Someone better, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

Good post, Steve. "Someone better" often means "someone worse". The attraction some women have to guys who treat them like dirt is a good example. But I agree, it often means "more compatable" and shouldn't be taken personally,
as difficult as that is.

Zack

... in response to Someone better, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

Steve,
  It seems real strange to me that most will tell you they travel to another country to get "better" than they can here in the U.S..What exactly does that mean?:)Does that mean some are of weaker charecter or shallow desires? We cannot be hypocrites and get angry when the women want more also if we too only have shallow intents.

... in response to Someone better, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

After seeing some off the guys that women I have known were crazy about,I just had to laugh.They had the girl conned or impressed somehow,but usually the guy was nothing special at all.I think the one fcactor was the guy was a challenge,was not crazy about her.That seems to impress women.Its the old want what you can't have,don't want what they can.Plus there is female reasoning involved that most guys will never undertstand.
So never accept someone elses opinion of you especially in the fickle area of relationship.Plus it feels so bad if you care about the girl.Time to move on if you are not number one.

Pete

... in response to Someone better, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

Steve,
  Everyone has an ideal in their heads of what they really want. Anytime I have left a relationship, it was usually because of growth. As you go out into the world and see all of what is has for you, your needs change. Sometimes for the better,sometimes worse.
When I say a person leaves for someone Better, it means to that person at that time in life they feel someone else is better suited for them. Noone ever leaves for anyone they feel is worse. It may be she or he "feels" personality wise, age wise, educationally or whatever,that other person is better suited to what they have always felt was ideal for them.
   I watched an interesting program this morning. It was on Iran and divorce(I did not even know it was legal) A woman was saying she was from a small village and had married young. But as she moved into the city, her whole prespectives changed and she realized her older husband was not suited for her,she wanted out. Did she find someone "better suited"? In her mind yes. She found a man who she said was younger,made her laugh,and treated her well. Is he "better" than her ex? No, but for her he is better suited.She thought he portrayed the kind of man she always wanted.
  Also, unlike some here I never put men down who travel,and come back with less than spectacular wives. That is shallow. His needs may be totally different than mine. What is hot to him, may be plain to me. Preaching about guys being losers because they want to date a woman who they feel will be totally into him andhave great charecter,rather than a trophy is a choice that should not be belittled. To each his own. Now if some would respect others who have made choices we ourselves would not make it would make this board better.
   But a person who constantly talks about looks, and worships only looks is not one I would really want to take advice from.
   By the way, I think my fiance is way hotter than 95% of the girls I've seen on any site. But I do not run to show others how hot she is, nor do I belittle men who are dating older women, or ones that do not look as good.That is behaving like a Junior High School kid. If you think that's cool. I guess you would also think AW who talk about how much money a guy is worth,and thinks other girls dating guys not making 7 or 8 figures losers are cool too.
     MArk
   

 

... in response to Re: Someone better, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

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Mark

I agree with your basic premise.  I thought the intended message was probably "someone they think is better", but was not stated clearly.  And when we loose someone it's easy to get negative on ourselves and think it was "someone better".  I think a man shouldn't feel that way unless he mistreated the woman.

I'm concerned about the last part of your post.  If you think that I've put down others for not bringing back the hotest babe, I want to state that is not my intention and if I have said anything like that I will retract it.

I did say many times that I thought my Colombian ex-wife was very beautiful, because I did think that my ex was very beautiful.  That didn't make her a good person or the right person for me, and I didn't post that to try to impress others here about me.  I realize that it is easy to marry a very beautiful woman in Colombia.

I posted that I thought she was very beautiful because I wanted people to understand why I made a lot of stupid decisions in marrying and staying married to her.  I was swept away by her beauty.  I was too weak to resist her charm.  I want other men who maybe don't normally run with the "alpha women" to know how difficult it can be to control themselves and do "the right thing" when you are in love with a very beautiful woman.

My wife is also beautiful.  I haven't raved about her beauty here because it hasn't been relevant to the story I am telling.

Steve

... in response to I agree, however, I would add..., posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

I don't want to speak for others, but Cali Pro certainly gives off the impression that he thinks he is "better". He says he only dates the best of the best? Sure, some of those girls were cute, but best of the best?

He thinks that you can have "very beautiful" or "unattactive". Nothing in between. He seems to look down on guys that Marry women in their 30s with kids as no colombiano would want them?
He seems hell bant on proving how good he is, because he can date "hot babes". He views dating as competition. That is why he would pay 150 bucks to meet a woman that has 3 novios. That is why, he almost brought a girl here that had a novio that she really loved on the side.

He tries to come off as "joe studd". He wants guys to be and thinks  that they are envious of him. The first time he posted pics he said he like taking pics and wanted to give people a tast of what Cali was like. I take a bunch of pics as well. usually while out on the town, at the beach, in front of landmarks etc. CP had most of his pics of girls on his bed, so we would all know he "did" them. he is just trying to impress the world with his conquests. pretty sad really. The funniest part is soem guys here are naive enough to be impressed.

... in response to not you. . . ., posted by Ralph on Nov 9, 2003

his #1 fan..............Dallas Steve

... in response to INCLUDING, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

I like CaliPro because he's got a sense of humor and doesn't go after people in a relentless, vindictive, bitter fashion when he disagrees with them.  

I like to look at his photos because the women are very beautiful, but I don't think that makes him Tom Cruise because I know firsthand how easy it is to date beautiful women in Cali.

Steve

... in response to Re: INCLUDING, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 10, 2003

He goes after people with a condescending, air of superiority.
I have no proble with the way he leads his life as it is his to live. people go through stages, and many of us in a few short years if we still have not found or have given up on finding the "one", might also choose to live life in a similar way.

CP does not seem to allow for the fact that his way of doing things is not the best. He jumps to conclusions like we all must want ugly unnatractive women and can't get laid here? Please. . . ..

He comes across as having very little respect for the women he meets.

... in response to but. . . , posted by Ralph on Nov 10, 2003

Fine.  I'm tired of discussing CaliPro.  I'm not here to defend him either.  If you and BeenThere don't comment about me with reference to him anymore (which started this particular thread) I probably won't laud him anymore here.  But that doesn't mean I won't thank him when he posts something hilarious.

I like to look at his photos and I like to read his posts.  You and BeenThere can continue your verbal war with him as long as you like.  I don't know why you (Ralph) are so wrapped up in it, but if that makes you happy, then continue.  I enjoy reading his comebacks so keep setting him up.

Steve

... in response to Yadda, yadda, yadda, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 10, 2003

I'm a little surprised that these guys haven't taken a step back and looked at what they've posted over the last few days.   And then insist jealousy has not driven the posts. If it's not jealousy then what else causes that much resentment?  Is it not obvious that CaliPro is having a blast toying with them, all in a very civilized manner?  According to Patrick's FAQ's, a troll is:

"People who's sole agenda is to stir up a fight and generally disrupt normal conversation any way they can"

By that definition they should have been banned by now.  Look at the post right above calling you out of the blue - WTF?    Of course I'm not requesting banning anyone, I really would prefer that not to happen because when they calm down and get back to the intent of the board they actually have some pertinent information to share here.  At any rate, the posts are certainly entertaining - but there's only so many times one can whip a dead horse.

... in response to Re: Yadda, yadda, yadda, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003

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   Ok, once and for all. No one is jealous of Calipro. Why would we be? We are just sick and tired of his pompous attitude.

  To top it off,when Fuzzy wrote part of his horror story. Good old Calipro had to comment" Wow! I would never take that attitude from a 30 year old. He constantly has to make a little dig about age and beauty.
   Yeah, sometimes he can be amusing, but I wonder how amusing it would be if calipro had to get a taste of his own medicine from an AW counterpart.
 
Imagine Calipro getting a beautiful young calena and bringing he to the U.S. She meets a friend who is just as shallow as Calipro.(I hope noone ever has a wife with a "friend' like this):)

  Friend: What does your husband do?

   Wife: He works for the government and also drives a cab part-time( an honest living)

   Friend: You are kidding right? With your looks, you can get yourself a man with megabucks. I can introduce you to a few.

 Wife: No, I don't want to meet anyone else, I love him.
 
  Friend: What kind of car does he drive?

  Wife: A Saturn(very good reliable car)

    Friend: A Saturn! He drives a Saturn (Good relaibale car). What in the world are you thinking!!! Only the top of the line Mercedes or Masserati will do.

Friend: Well, how old is he? Maybe he still has potential.
 
Wife: He is 40 years old.

Friends: 40!!!!! I would never put up with a man who was not rich. Especially at 40. Gosh, by beautiful AW standards, he is not the kind of guy we all drool over:). In fact, most beautiful AW would never ever give him the time day.
 
Wife: Well there is much more to a person than money or looks.

  Friend: There are only two types of men in this world. Winners and losers. It seems you found yourself a loser. Don't worry, I will make sure you meet the kind of guys you never thought would talk to you back in Colombia.I'm going to introduce you to all of the guys women only dream of getting.
 
  Now,you know, if the "wife" had any bit of heart,class,charecter,and common sense she would turn her back to this girl and understand her values are all wrong.

  If the "wife" is shallow. She would feel jealous the other girl is getting what she did not get. She will feel she is deserving and entitled,and listen to this "friend'.

  Any of us would get sick and tired of hearing this friend or any shallow AW put in her 2 cents after awhile. But when Calipro does it,some think it's funny. It just gets tired.  If Calipro stop making comments about looks and age,things would be ok. But even when a new guy who is 55 talks of looking for a wife 10-15  years younger, Calipro will advice to go for young ones because he can,and imply he must be insecure if he
does'nt.To each his own.

... in response to Re: Re: Yadda, yadda, ..role reversal, posted by mar33 on Nov 10, 2003

That's probably what did happen to poor ole' calipro...

... in response to Re: Re: Yadda, yadda, ..role reversal, posted by mar33 on Nov 10, 2003

Yes, hope a prospective latin wife never encounters a shallow friend like that!  However, should that happen  hopefully it would be sooner than later.  Speaking of the car, I know one Colombiana whose husband purchased her a nice fancy Jaguar.  After months of the thing constantly being taken to the shop - she was pleading "please can we just get a Chevrolet?".  He did "cave in" and she is now thrilled to have a car that works, regardless if it doesn't quite meet the status quo of their neigborhood!

... in response to Driving a Saturn, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003

the problem was buying th jag in the first place.......only a BMW would be good enough for my wife........
btw, is this post legal???? LOL

... in response to Re: Driving a Saturn, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

What's up with that?! Cali chicks want a campero lujoso (ie. mafioso) with vidrios polarizadas. Skip the Chevrolet Sprint.

... in response to Re: Driving a Saturn, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

I clearly should bow out of the judges booth however due to any perceived bias(however unwarranted that may be).  So the contest is on - this will be interesting indeed!  

PS, you wouldn't really consider placing a recently transplanted Caleña directly behind the wheel of a new beamer?  JunFan's experience comes to mind:
http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/latin/archives/display.php?archive=000145&id=45161

... in response to Re: Yadda, yadda, yadda, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003

Please cancunhound............read some of the posts below where Calipro cuts on me.............maybe I'm having a blast toying with him..........Calipro has called me a loser, and a fool (amongst other things) on this board.  He has insulted Asian women, american women, men who settle for the "bottom of the barrell" women at agencies.  He posted a link of my picture, he posted a personal e-mail to him from me, he posted his own ex-wife's phone number, not to mention other things.  
His posts about how I never get laid (which to me are humorous, & very sophomoric), how would he even know???  (But you and Dallas Steve just LOVE his sense of humor, right???)..........but I'm sure you don't object to them.  Check the archives cancunhound........I would venture to bet that 95% of the posts I have made against Calipro, have been posts where HE brought my name up first............do it and report back with some facts.......He brings this stuff on himself........
BTW, he's more of an ass, than a horse........

... in response to Re: Re: Yadda, yadda, yadda, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

No time for archive searching, but just on this page alone I don't recall anything that was instigated by CaliPro - and you have: called him a chump, knocked his salary, knocked his job, accused him of hiring prostitutes, etc..

If a new board member joins today and picks up the reading here I can bet what their initial impression would be.  No I'm not knocking you, and I don't have a clue why you would have made that "HJIFSWITRAPLK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" comment (whatever that was) to one of my posts - that was a little paranoid because nothing there had any remote reference to you.  I would request that you refrain from making assumptions and referring to me in unrelated posts - I am vain you know!  Oh well, may the saga continue -

Just my 2 cents  
{and at least I learned about Floras Frescas in this brawl!}

 

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yadda, yadda, yadda, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003

Regarding specific salaries, I don't know why people even put this stuff on the board. But it's there so...

If you know who makes $75K that's pretty decent. It's 2x the nationwide median and Phoenix is a lot cheaper for housing than most regions of the country. Plus, a schedule C business opens the doors to a lot of deductions and he's probably got a pension coming that most people in the private sector would envy.

Let's not forget another member volunteered that they earned a steady six-figure income, enjoyed a decade of a crazy, booming housing market and may be filing bankruptcy in the not too distant future.

It's been said a million times before: it's not what you make but what you save/invest.

-Milton Freidman  ;-)

... in response to Re: Re: Yadda, yadda, yadda, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

BeenThere writes:

"BTW, he's more of an ass, than a horse........ "

Would that kind of comment fall into the category of sophomoric?

There's really no need to be calling people names and it doesn't require any wit to do so.  At least make an effort to compose good flames.

Steve

... in response to Flame etiquette, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 10, 2003

I thought it was clever. He is talking about a donkey, right? ;-) I also enjoy CP's sense of humor. If these guys enjoy ripping each other (it is old now) the let them have at it. I'm out, no more comments from the peanut gallery.

... in response to Flame etiquette, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 10, 2003

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Yes Dallas Steve, and I remember when you made a post calling me "low class", remember???
Practice what you preach........
BTW, it didn't last long for you to get "untired" of discussing Calipro........see your post above.........
If you weren't married I would think maybe you had a crush on him
just kidding..............hehehe

... in response to Re: Flame etiquette, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

Numero uno - You didn't answer my question.  Is it sophomoric to call CaliPro an ass?

Numero dos - I told you before I didn't call you "low class".  However, if you can identify the post where I did I will...

Numero tres - Apologize again, which I did if you read it (right after CaliPro apologized to you). and which I will do again if you didn't.  I think I posted that calling the women was "low class".  That's not the same as calling you "low class".  But I will apologize again for whatever I said that offended you.

Numero cuatro - I am practicing what I preach because I am not calling you names for calling CaliPro an ass.  (Although it would be very easy to do so).

Steve

... in response to Old History, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 10, 2003

Ok, I apologize to CAlipro for calling him an ass....
Please,, show me where Calipro has EVER apologized to me in a sincere manner.  Search the archives and post it....
I'll be waiting.

... in response to Re: Old History, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

If you can show me where calipro has EVER made a SINCERE  apology to me (without any joking involved) I will agree to be banned from this forum........(that should give you some incentive).  BUT the apology has to be sincere and it has to be from the archives.
Now if you CAN'T provide the post, either you or Calipro must agree to be banned........DEAL???
And no cheating from the webmaster on providing a false post, it must be verifiable.
I'll be waiting......

... in response to even better, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

Are you gone yet???

I'll tell you what this is getting ridiculous. I'm spending more time responding to your dumb posts than writing my girl friend or responding to fan mail.

So I tell you what. Lets call a truce and lets make a rule. I won't respond to your posts or mention you by name and you do the same. You can repond to people that respond to my posts and vice a versa.

... in response to I'm sorry , so very, very sorry!, posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

Rules are simple as CaliPro suggests.  No reference in any fashion to "beenthere", "CaliPro" or any abbreviation or obvious reference in your respective posts.  Delicious - how about throwing in a no 3rd person mudslinging provision too boot.  I'd like to start a money pool on this one to see who breaks 1st!

... in response to Do we have a contest then?, posted by cancunhound on Nov 10, 2003

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n/t

... in response to I doubt it., posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

is a deletion an infraction of the new agreement???
just curious.........I guess we'll consider that like they do in the NFL, when the ref picks up a flag.........no infraction, but it was close!!!!!!
you'll see, I'll win this bet...........let's put some big money on it.......

... in response to I'm sorry , so very, very sorry!, posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

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CaliPro

Are you getting fan mail?  Why am I not getting any fan mail?  I am one of your lapdogs, after all.

Steve

PS:  My sincerometer didn't register very high on that last apology.

... in response to even better, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

but you need to agree to the deal BEFORE you check the archives............come on Steve, I know you've read the above message......Deal or not????

... in response to Re: even better, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

BeenThere

To begin with, I don't agree with your definition of a "sincere apology".  Furthermore, I will not continue this thread.  Your posts have degenerated to a level where I no longer want to participate.  However, I consider your apology to CaliPro to be a good move and I will respect that.  I really want to bury the hatchet with you, but if you can't accept that, then so be it.  I'm not going to engage in any more flame wars with you.  If this continues, I will do as you suggested earlier and not open any more of your posts.

Best wishes

Steve

... in response to I agree, however, I would add..., posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

Steve,
     I read your story. You seem like a pretty good guy. I think you made a wise decision this time around. I understand how easy it is to get caught up with beautiful women.
  I did not mean to imply you were one who put men down for not bringing back beautiful women, women over 30 or with children.To each his own. Everyone should be allowed to make their own choices without someone constanly reminding them they can get better and younger. Everyone has different taste and we should all respect that.

... in response to Re: Someone better, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

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Mark

It doesn't matter the age difference or what you have or don't have in common with the person you marry. Both of you can fall out of love and or grow apart. A life long marriage is a life time commitment. It is a promise made and a promise kept (For richer or poorer for better or worst). It is a promise few people in our society are unselfish or humble enough to keep. If you really want a hedge against your marriage ending in divorce don't look aboard, move aboard. In our society divorce is a very acceptable means of solving marital problems. So if you don't want your wife to be influenced by our divorce society better setup camp some where else.

Anyway moving aboard IMHO has to be 10 times more effective against an unwanted divorce than bringing an unattractive women here. I'm not saying guys shouldn't marry a homely woman with kids if that is what he really wants but I really don't think it is any kind of a guarantee that she won't divorce you once she gets acclimated to our me first divorce society.

Also I think it is childish for someone to say that they run from really hot looking women or women interested in modeling. The hot ones need love to!!!

Oh and I think it is just a little strange that the women you picked because of her inner beauty just so happens to be more BEAUTFUL than 95% of the women on the websites.

QUIT kidding yourself!! You're a male pig to!!

Anybody who can't see that is someone I wouldn't want to take advice from either.

... in response to Re: Re: Someone better, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

Calipro,
I'm just curious.....and I'm not trying to bash you (seriously)........you are so hung up on looks.....what do your "calena models" think about your looks??  I'm very familiar with how open they are to compliment a very handsome man.  It's very common for them to call a man "papi-chulo" or "triple-papito", or " mi principe azul" or "mi Ken". Do you ever get that from them???
Do you think you have the looks to keep these girls satisfied when they come here to the states and meet some real "papi-chulos"???  Are they really crazy over you physically or is it just the $150 a month, or the prospect of leaving Colombia and living in the US.  I know you'll say they enjoy the sex with you, so they must be physically attracted to you, but for some, desperate times call for desperate measures.
I know you don't like to take advise from anyone, but I really think you're setting yourself up for another fall.  If these "models" don't think you're the greatest thing since sliced bread, you're in trouble.  
Now you might say looks aren't important to Calenas, true enough, not the average ones, but to the "modelos"....yes looks matter........these women are used to having everything, including the best looking guys.
Think about it.............

... in response to just curious, posted by beenthere on Nov 9, 2003

Sure I think they are atracted to me physically. I don't just give every girl I meet money. Remember rule number 1! Never give a girl a dime that you haven't slept with and that you want to sleep with again!!!

You know beenthere there is alot more to keeping a woman's attention than just being a pretty boy. How you make them feel when they are around you has a lot to do with it to.

... in response to Re: just curious, posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

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Evidently you made ex-wife #1 feel real good (she left you for another man), and I'm sure you made #2 feel good, that's why she wouldn't leave her boyfriend after she married YOU!!!
I'll take my pretty boy good looks any day of the week...........I don't know how it feels to be dumped by a Calena..........why don't you tell us????
Oh by the way, thanks for the compliment!!!  pretty boy...............glad you noticed!!!!
hehehe

... in response to Re: Re: just curious, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

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Well all things considered it doesn't feel to bad. I had a pretty good time. I'm not complaining a bit. I have dumped plenty more women than have dumped me. Sh!t happens!

I guess the real question is: Are you really satifying these women and do they truely like you or are they just after your money. You don't have to answer. We already know the answer. Married for only a couple of months and searching for ten years! Yeah, You're not a fool. You and I both know that the only thing they're after is your money. You couldn't keep a women to save your life. It's a good thing you dumped the last one while you were ahead. HeHeHe!!!

I would post all the letters between my last ex and myself (and her ex-boy friend) but they are all in spanish and I cringe at the thought of you translating them for everybody. So I'll just keep trying to cut through the bull you keep putting out. She dumped her boyfriend for me. That's when he went nuts and I found out about him.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: just curious, posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

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You never heard her complain about your performance in bed like some of the women I've been with?????.......
very nice Calipro, that should impress your 2 lap dogs, cancunhound & Dallas Steve.........I'm sure they're rolling on the floor by now.......
BTW, I thought you weren't going to open and read any of my posts anymore........
You do love me, don't you??? hehehe

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: just curious, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

I consider myself to be much more of a "sporting" breed variety, certainly not a lap dog.  Once again, I would request that you refrain from making assumptions and referring to me by handle in unrelated posts - note that none of my posts of recent have included "beenthere".  Assuming is bad. Because when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME. Thank you  

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: just curious, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

I made it worst. Read the post again. Why don't you just e-mail me instead of clogging the board up with this stuff?

... in response to Nope!!, posted by Calipro on Nov 10, 2003

why don't you e-mail me?????  your posts are no better than mine........what do they have, an un-clogging additive or something????  hehehe

... in response to Re: Nope!!, posted by beenthere on Nov 10, 2003

OK, I'll admit, that one was worth opening.

Steve

... in response to just curious, posted by beenthere on Nov 9, 2003

I think there a few sincere ones with hot looks, but their numbers probably get swamped by the users/sharks in the agencies (again, among the hot ones).  I guess that's why he needs to date them all, so he can find the right one.  ;-)

Steve

... in response to just curious, posted by beenthere on Nov 9, 2003

Beenthere,
      You are right. Great looking girls get hit on by great looking guys all of the time. When they have many choices some will eventually pick the one they are most attracted to(hey, didn't Calipro's ex send you an e-mail after she saw the picture Calipro posted of you?),or if she is into money, it will not take her long to attract a very rich powerful man who gives her more than $150 big smackeroos a month:).
  My fiance happens to think I am more handsome then I actually am.I will keep her dillusional:). The blond hair,blue eyes,(totally opposite of her) thin nose and ok body makes her think I look like some actor from Lord of the Rings.She calls me handsome and gorgeous,and I cannot figure out who the hell she is looking at. But I guess everyone has a different perception of what they think is good looking.

... in response to Re: just curious...Bingo!!!, posted by mar33 on Nov 9, 2003

Yeah Mark, but don't cut yourself short..........if she makes you feel like you're the most handsome man in the world, then you probably are to her. And that is all that counts. You're young also, which is a big plus, since you have many years of good looks left.  

... in response to Re: Re: Someone better, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

Calipro,
     
   I have no problems with pretty girls. But I do not think it is my busines to tell guys what they  should want, or imply they are losers because their choices are not what I think is hot.
    To be fair, I also have little respect  for women who try to convince other women they are selling themselves short because they fell in love with a man who may not have the ideal look, or the millionaire. People are about more than looks or money.
     Mark
   
   

... in response to Re: Re: Someone better, posted by Calipro on Nov 9, 2003

Yep.  I've read that 100 times:

"I was attracted to my wife because she's very beautiful, but now I love her for her inner beauty".

Now in Mark's case (and in my case,  he he) I'm sure that's true.  But I'd bet in most cases that's a very comfortable rationalization.

Right on, CaliPro.

Steve

(And I love your motto: The hot ones need love, too)

... in response to Someone better, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

That is actually what she said to me... I could not help but laugh out loud
and tell her good luck!!

... in response to Someone better, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 9, 2003

Let her go, let her go, God bless her
Wherever she may be.
She can search this wide world over
Never find another man good as me.

(thank you, Cab Calloway)

... in response to Re: Someone better, posted by Michael B on Nov 9, 2003

NT