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I signed up for the month at a time writing. Not the executive choice for $975. I have been writing and some women show interest and write back. They try to send their e-mail and it gets blocked out. I explain that and they realize that. I have exchanged 3 or 4 e-mails within a week and a half with the few who show real interest. Then for the past week, nothing.
 Is this normal operating procedure.? Is it hard for the women to get to LAI to check their mail? Do they give up on you unless you contact them at their house by phone or at their work e-mail?
  Is it worth getting the executive upgrade for $975 so I can get their personal e-mail, phone and address to maintain better and faster contact before going to LAI in december?.I told them I was coming down, they asked about it.

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

After reading the posts here, and the owner's (LAI) response, I just have to add my 3 cents.  I have used LAI's 'email' program and have to tell you that I am disappointed with it.  I wrote to several ladies, as to be expected, they didn't all reply.  So the ones that were corresponding seemed genuinely interested, and so was I.  Now, here's the rub .... LAI never would let me get to write the lady without going thru' them.  Even tho' the ladies in question wanted to... and they stated that in their replies.  The fact of the matter is the the agency reads (yes, reads) each and every email you send to you lady friend.  That's what their staff is there for... to scan the letter, remove information they don't want the lady to have, such as your phone or email info... then pass along the edited letter to the lady. That i call dishonest, and an intrusion into one's private communication.  So, what's up with that.... well, you guessed it.... the profit motive for the agency.... so they string you along, and only when you cough up the $$$ will you get out of that loop... Shame, double, tripple shame on LAI!

... in response to The 'Greed' Motive  and LAI, posted by Ricardo on Nov 5, 2003

Ricardo. I am open to suggestions as how to offer initial communication between potential male members and our lady clients and not go broke in the process.

I am all ears.

Nelson

... in response to Re: The 'Greed' Motive  and LAI, posted by LatinIntro on Nov 6, 2003

Nels,
 I don't think you realize the negative impact.  Let's say for instance you wanted to contact a lady using the internet and you went through the "Our system only" method.  At this point you would have "NO IDEA" what message the lady would receive or what the lady actually said.  Why?  Because all communication is censored by the agency.  As you stated:

"LAI Once again, personal contact information IS NOT CENSORED AT ALL for our all our members, except at the INternet Level".  

That's right "at the internet level"  censoring takes place.  So, you won't know what the agency is telling the lady or if the lady actually got the message.  Who wants to use a system like this?  Nobody. If you insist on using this method you probably will go broke.  Let the paying members write directly to the women's direct email addresses (like yahoo, hotmail, etc.).   Use this method and your hotel will be full and the tours booked.

... in response to Re: Re: The 'Greed' Motive  and LAI, posted by HeyNow on Nov 8, 2003

HeyNow,
I agree with your post.  I was - unexpectedly, surprised that my emails were not getting through, before censoring.   Naturally the ladies who were interested wanted me to send my fotos, etc, to get better aquainted, but I couldn't.  Some requested, andI even tried to set up a phone conversation, and couldn't even talk to the ladies using LAI's phone ... maybe, just maybe it is not allowed!
It was to say the least very frustrating.  I just wish LAI would be up-front and clearly state that personal information, eg. email info would not be sent to the ladies..
Another issue is that if a guy choses to communicate any personal information about himself, the agency staff becomes privy to that as well.  Kinda' makes one feel like a little kid being chaperoned.  I would bet the majority of correspondents have not a clue that the agency staff spend most of their time reading communication sent, whether or not it requires translation.  So anything you say is never confidential, and you guys know how latinas love to share info and gossip!!

... in response to LAI - be more up-front ....., posted by Ricardo on Nov 8, 2003

Trust me. Staff reads every word.

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

The discussion below brings up several good points, which in my experience are very true. Before I discuss them in my next post, I will explain the service we offer and the reasoning behind it.

First of all, my agency does not sell addresses of women. We do not do this due to several reasons: 1) because we choose to work at a more personal level of service 2) we strongly believe in men traveling to meet the ladies personally 3) anyone could buy an address of one of our ladies. When you sign up with us as a member, we get to know who you are a little bit better and therefore are not introducing just anyone to the quality women we are signing up 4) Lets say that we allow exchange of contact information with the low monthly membership: men would make personal contact with the women and then set up trips to Colombia just to visit those particular women. We as a business would not be able to remain in business by doing this... Besides, there are many competitors offering to sell addresses, and if that is the desire of any client, he can choose to do so with a different company.
We are strictly a introductory agency, introducing quality single men to beautiful Colombian women at a very personal level.  

So why do we offer our EmailService program? Because it works. Many men have strong doubts about the legitimacy of these types of organization, about if the women really do exist, about the interest they will generate among the ladies, and several other concerns that I might forget to bring up right now. Many men want to know what will happen before they make a $675 or $975 investment in finding a lady in their life.

The main purpose of the EmailService program is to have potential full members get their feet wet and communicate with the different ladies they wish to. THIS IS NOT an email forwarding system.
When our system receives a letter from you many things happen: 1. the system notifies my EMS Staff that a letter has been sent to a particular lady 2. The system sends a reply back to you that we have been notified and that you will be informed in 72 hours of the status of that letter 3. My staff proceeds to contact the lady to tell her she has an email waiting in her inbox to be read if she has an email address, and otherwise gets the message delivered to her through any other mean. 4. My staff notifies you that we have contacted the lady personally and she is aware of you message or otherwise, every 72 hours will let you know what is happening with the letter you sent.

In the case the girl is no longer in the program, is not interested in you, or any other reason for not writing back... you will be informed by us. What I am aiming at with this system, is for any client to know what happens with every single letter he sends. There are several things that fall out of our hands such as a girl telling us she is interested and will write back, and then fails to do so.

I am happy to explain how my program works, simply because I want to make it efficient and worth while for anyone who starts using it. I do make it clear, that if someone has no intention of traveling to Colombia or meeting the women personally, they are wasting their time and ours as well.

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

Take the "In the system only"  emails with a grain of salt.
I wrote and got responses from more than a few gals.  When I met them and stated "I got your email."  Then I get this puzzled look and the woman says "You emailed me and I wrote to you?"  This happen more than a few times. Go figure.  My
advice is if you do get an answer then, ask for the actual email address (this works pretty good).  Better yet, get the email address when you get to Colombia.  Never, had a gal refuse to give me an email address.

... in response to Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by HeyNow on Nov 3, 2003

This will ABSOLUTELY NEVER HAPPEN with LAI. We will not fabricate responses or lie to any client. I am pretty sure my organization enjoys the repuation it has as operating with integrity and with honesty, because this is our best marketing program.

... in response to Re: Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by LatinIntro on Nov 5, 2003

I will have to admit LAI seems to be honest.  Except the situation regarding the recent Iswote post regarding Claudia.  It was an LAI lie but, maybe a little white lie.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by HeyNow on Nov 5, 2003

What situation are you talking about?  I told the truth about Claudia's relationship and no one even commented on the post, so I can't imagine what is not honest.  At the time I posted the message, my wife and I had just gotten a wedding invitation in the mail from Claudia and her fiancee.  My wife also has visited Claudia several times in Miami.  Unfortunately the relationship with Claudia and her gringo boyfriend didn't work out as hoped and Claudia has decided against getting married at this time and is going back to Bogota tomorrow.  Where is the dishonesty you are talking about?

Perhaps I shouldn't have posted about Claudia getting engaged and should have waited until she actually got married, but I was excited for her and thought other guys would be too.

... in response to re: Claudia?, posted by lswote on Nov 8, 2003

Bruce,
 Sorry to hear things didn't work out.  From what you said it seemed like a done deal.  I guess you could use the quote from that baseball catcher, "It aint over till it's over".  Dishonesty?  Go back and reread your post.  I am sure you will figure it out.  Hope everything is well with your family.  You sure went through a lot.

Peace

... in response to Re: re: Claudia?, posted by HeyNow on Nov 9, 2003

Oh, the thing about Claudia saying she was married but not actually being married?  Actually I might be wrong about that.  It was an assumption I made since she seemed to get single so fast, but when I talked to my wife about it (after I made my engagement announcement on this board), she says she thinks Claudia WAS married and got divorced.  Remember Claudia is a lawyer so it is possible she knows how to expedite something like that.  I have to say that I honestly don't know if Claudia was married or not and again, perhaps I shouldn't have even discussed it here on the board, but I figured if I posted she was engaged, other guys like me who had been told she was married, would bring the question up so I just handled it with what I believed to be correct information based on my own conclusions.  I have actually never discussed this subject with Claudia herself.

John, I think this falls into the category of it not really being our business.  It had nothing to do with how Claudia performed her job at LAI.  As far as I saw, Claudia always worked her tail off trying to provide good service to the clients of LAI and that is all that really matters.  Whether she was or was not married really has nothing to do with her job at LAI and I wish now I had not brought up the subject of Claudia getting engaged because I think highly of both her and LAI and I would hate to think that my idle chatter might reflect badly on either.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by HeyNow on Nov 5, 2003

Which post is that????

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: LAI and writing before g..., posted by LatinIntro on Nov 6, 2003


HeyNow is refering to this post: http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/latin/archives/display.php?archive=000156&id=49308

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

Hello? I thought only ripoff Russian agencies played the 'all correspondence through us' game, and often wondered why guys would put up with it. This is the first Latin agency I've heard of doing it, and I must say that I am highly disappointed in them. Looks like no matter how long you use (and pay for) their 'internet only' service that if you find a lady worth getting to know better, you can't even get her home address or phone number unless you pay the agency another $975. If that's truely the case, I wouldn't give them another DIME! In fact, I'd tell them that they've made me so PO'd over the correspondence censoring that I'm going to take my tour with their competitor.

... in response to Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by Michael B on Nov 3, 2003

As I previously posted, our EmailService program serves the purpose of helping man make a decision to join our service and come to Colombia to meet the ladies. Direct communication, without the "'all correspondence through us' game" is exactly what our executive and tour members are receiving.

Maybe my program is not what some clients would wish to go through, but I welcome anyone's input to set up a program which makes sense financially and at the same time helps clients experience our service without a considerable financial investment.

... in response to Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by Michael B on Nov 3, 2003


Hi Michael,

I hear you completely about what you're saying about agencies that control, or worse, edit or fabricate letters.  Sounds like you too had a bad experience with a Russian agency.

I had an experience with one dishonest Russian agency where they prevented personal contact information to be given out or even deleted my requests for such then lied about it to me.  The other Russian agency I used was above board and I had no problems with contacting the ladies through them.  Actually, it was necessary because I do not speak Russian and had to rely on their translation services.  Computer translators only go so far.

Interestingly the one dishonest Russian agency charged for their translation services, the other did not.  Bottom line though with both agencies is that they did not want to lose a potential sale of a guy later joining the agency who initially purchased addresses from them.  They were using the letter correspondence as a sales technique to get guys interested in using their services. Is that so bad though?

I used to have a problem with an agency that required correspondence going solely through them.  Now I don't think it is all that grievous especially if the lady wants to be a little selective on whom she corresponds with.  

I am a member of LAI and think they are a reputable agency.  I think they have two reasons for not giving out personal contact information.  To protect the lady to a certain degree and they want you to use their services more than just purchasing email addys.  I don't fault them for that.  If the agency is honest, then I don't have a problem.  If they aren't, you are wasting money, time and effort.  If you think the agencies selling address only are a better option I think it is a gamble and mixed bag.  Just look at an agency like LatinEuro.  Ask Bueller what he thinks of the owner, "Jack(ass)".    

Some of these ladies join agencies with the hopes of finding a nice guy without their parent’s knowledge or permission and they sure wouldn't want guys calling or writing to her if she still lived at her parent's home.  One Rolita I was dating told her mother about her joining an agency but was too afraid to tell her father.  He was too conservative to allow his little girl to meet guys like that.  I'm glad momma was more open to the idea.  He liked me after we met but I think he never knew how I really met his daughter.  

Some ladies would not want to be bombarded by numerous letters from would be suitors.  One RW I wrote off a free site said she literally was receiving hundreds of letters and couldn't possible answer them all.  I believed her as her photos she sent me revealed a very attractive woman.  On the other hand, a LW I wrote through Amigos.com that used a models photo and was likewise receiving lots of letters felt the same.  When I showed up at her door a couple months later my jaw dropped.  Not even close to being attractive.  Something said for an agency screening the ladies then.

Besides, writing as you know is only a small tool in this whole process.  The main thing is to get down there and if you are one that likes an agency, I recommend finding an honest one.

Pablo

... in response to Other Side of Coin, posted by pablo on Nov 4, 2003

I hear you completely about what you're saying about agencies that control, or worse, edit or fabricate letters. Sounds like you too had a bad experience with a Russian agency.
--No, I've never dealt with any Russian agency.

I had an experience with one dishonest Russian agency where they prevented personal contact information to be given out or even deleted my requests for such then lied about it to me.
--My point exactly

The other Russian agency I used was above board and I had no problems with contacting the ladies through them. Actually, it was necessary because I do not speak Russian and had to rely on their translation services. Computer translators only go so far.
--I don't speak Russian either, but I do speak Spanish. If I needed translation, I wouldn't have a problem with paying for HONEST UNCENSORED translations.

Interestingly the one dishonest Russian agency charged for their translation services, the other did not. Bottom line though with both agencies is that they did not want to lose a potential sale of a guy later joining the agency who initially purchased addresses from them. They were using the letter correspondence as a sales technique to get guys interested in using their services. Is that so bad though?
--Yes, the way they are doing it is called 'bait and switch', look it up. I have no complaint with them offering a correspondence service, a translation service, a gift forwarding service nor a tour service, just a problem with jumping the price from $24.95 for 'all the communication you want for a month' to $975 because 'communication' doesn't include letting her tell you her phone number (even if SHE wants to give it to you).

I used to have a problem with an agency that required correspondence going solely through them. Now I don't think it is all that grievous especially if the lady wants to be a little selective on whom she corresponds with.
--If the lady wants to be selective, she can a) not respond at all b) respond saying 'not interested in you' c) respond but say 'sorry, I don't give out my phone number' d) respond saying 'Beachwood 4-5789, you can call me up any old time'. This agency isn't giving her option 'd'. 'a' & 'b' won't do you any good, 'c' says either the same as 'b' or that she's in the scam with them to lead you along as a sucker for more translation and/or message fees (could also say that she doesn't even exist except in their boiler room).  

I am a member of LAI and think they are a reputable agency. I think they have two reasons for not giving out personal contact information. To protect the lady to a certain degree
--If the lady doesn't want to be contacted, she should not list herself. Period. If she wants to be contacted but 'protected', she can insist on initial contact through the agency, then she can: see options 'a', 'b', 'c' above if she finds you not to her liking, or option 'd' if she wants to communicate further with you.

and they want you to use their services more than just purchasing email addys. I don't fault them for that.
--I do (fault them for that). I'm sure the Ford dealer wants to sell me a new car too, but he'd better sell me a clutch disk when I ask for one, if not, I'll take my big purchase business to somebody who didn't screw me over on the little stuff.

If the agency is honest, then I don't have a problem. If they aren't, you are wasting money, time and effort. If you think the agencies selling address only are a better option I think it is a gamble and mixed bag. Just look at an agency like LatinEuro. Ask Bueller what he thinks of the owner, "Jack(ass)".
--I think that agencies delevering what they promise are better. If they promise 'communication' and what you want to communicate is 'would you be willing for me to contact you via another method?' then if they don't let you do that and/or don't let her respond, they aren't delivering their promise.

Some of these ladies join agencies with the hopes of finding a nice guy without their parent’s knowledge or permission and they sure wouldn't want guys calling or writing to her if she still lived at her parent's home.
--Like she can't find an internet cafe and open a hotmail or yahoo account? She doesn't have a girl friend who's house she can receive a phone call at? Does her daddy follow her around 24/7 to make sure she's not talking to anybody? If he does, how's she ever going to get to THIS agency to check her messages?

One Rolita I was dating told her mother about her joining an agency but was too afraid to tell her father. He was too conservative to allow his little girl to meet guys like that. I'm glad momma was more open to the idea. He liked me after we met but I think he never knew how I really met his daughter.
--I'm not saying show up on her doorstep unannounced, but let's say you pay (and pay and pay) to correspond with her for several months and now you spring for the $975 to go on the tour so now it is 'OK' with the agency that you meet her....What's she going to tell her dad? 'I'm going to the agency social tonight to meet the guy you didn't even know I've been corresponding with for the last six months'???

Some ladies would not want to be bombarded by numerous letters from would be suitors. One RW I wrote off a free site said she literally was receiving hundreds of letters and couldn't possible answer them all. I believed her as her photos she sent me revealed a very attractive woman. On the other hand, a LW I wrote through Amigos.com that used a models photo and was likewise receiving lots of letters felt the same. When I showed up at her door a couple months later my jaw dropped. Not even close to being attractive. Something said for an agency screening the ladies then.
--Pretty woman getting lots of messages....that's life, nothing you nor I nor she can do about it....of course she doesn't have to answer all of them.
Ugly woman using false pictures....and how would you know? The agency gonna tell you? Maybe, maybe not (maybe THEY are using the false pictures and writting the emails themselves. I'm not accussing this agency of doing that, but from the messages on the Russian board, that seems to happen a lot).

Besides, writing as you know is only a small tool in this whole process. The main thing is to get down there and if you are one that likes an agency, I recommend finding an honest one.
--Agreed that writing (and telephoning and webcamming) are NOT the same as visiting in person, but together they can tell you WHO you want to visit. Of course there's always the chance that even after all that it's the old 'no chemistry' when you do meet in person, but that's a chance you take. I think that if you precommunicate (is that a legit word?) with 5 or 6 of them (that is 5 or 6 'keepers' that you've narrowed it down to and at least know somewhat) and then go to visit them, you'll do better than cold meeting 20 of them while you are down there. If you want to use the agency to arrange excursions, or provide a translator or a place to stay or even a backup in case all 6 of the ones you intend to meet bomb out, that's fine. My complaint is if you are writting (via an agency) I don't think it's honest for the agency to deny you the women's home contact information, IF the women are WILLING to give it to you.

BTW, I have 'been down', after much expense and red tape, she and her son just got their visas a couple of weeks ago, but they have to go back to Bogota for the other kid's visa. They'll be here as soon as I can scrounge the cash for the plane fare. Might bring up just her at first and the kids a month or so (i.e. a couple of pay days) later.  Anyway, good debating with you and hope you have good luck in your search.

... in response to Re: Other Side of Coin, posted by Michael B on Nov 5, 2003

MICHAEL B Yes, the way they are doing it is called 'bait and switch', look it up.
LAI  We are not doing BAIT AND SWITCH. I think we are clear about the purpose of the program we offer before anyone signs up to it. This is what is posted BEFORE you sign up for my program:
"We are not in the business of selling addresses. The reason we do not do this (unlike many other services) is because we choose to work at a very personal level with you and our female clients. We are committed in helping the ladies and gentleman that join us in their search to find someone very special. We are also convinced and strongly believe that you should travel and meet the girls personally. Our EmailService program will give you a head start in the right direction. Therefore, Personal Contact information exchange (i.e. address, phone number, etc.) is only allowed for Senior Executive Members and Tour Members who have made the decision to travel at a certain point."

MB  This agency isn't giving her option 'd'. 'a' & 'b' won't do you any good, 'c' says either the same as 'b' or that she's in the scam with them to lead you along as a sucker for more translation and/or message fees (could also say that she doesn't even exist except in their boiler room).
LAI  On the contrary. I strongly believe that the quality men that sign up with us, will all find someone. If a particular girl is not interested in a client, I make sure my client does not waste any time on her and is informed of the situation. There are many other ladies that will be interested in him.

MB  I think that agencies delevering what they promise are better. If they promise 'communication' and what you want to communicate is 'would you be willing for me to contact you via another method?' then if they don't let you do that and/or don't let her respond, they aren't delivering their promise.
LAI  I believe we are being very clear with what we are promising. If several people disagree, please let me know. My email is nelson@latinintro.com

MB  I'm not saying show up on her doorstep unannounced, but let's say you pay (and pay and pay) to correspond with her for several months and now you spring for the $975 to go on the tour so now it is 'OK' with the agency that you meet her....What's she going to tell her dad? 'I'm going to the agency social tonight to meet the guy you didn't even know I've been corresponding with for the last six months'???
LAI  No, but she knows that the person she is introducing to her is a full member of LAI, which means we know him better than just someone who purchased her address. Why? Because we have been able to verify his information and know he is not an inmate who bought her address for 10 dollars or 39 dollars, because we have been able to do a background check on him and know she is not meeting someone who is married or with a criminal record, etc.

MB  Ugly woman using false pictures....and how would you know? The agency gonna tell you? Maybe, maybe not (maybe THEY are using the false pictures and writting the emails themselves. I'm not accussing this agency of doing that, but from the messages on the Russian board, that seems to happen a lot).
LAI  Even though we are not being accussed, I will take the opportunity to clariify that ALL PICTURES USED ON THE LAI SITE are taken 1 or 2 weeks before the ladies are posted on our site, and additionally those pictures are taken by us.

MB  My complaint is if you are writting (via an agency) I don't think it's honest for the agency to deny you the women's home contact information, IF the women are WILLING to give it to you.
LAI  Once again, personal contact information IS NOT CENSORED AT ALL for our all our members, except at the INternet Level.

Nelson Grisales
Owner Latin American Introductions
nelson@latinintro.com

... in response to Re: Re: Other Side of Coin, posted by LatinIntro on Nov 5, 2003

I was just going from what the other posts said and was under the impression that customers were being led to beleive they were going to receive 'full' communication with ladies of their chosing for a period of time and then were only receiving limited or 'censored' communication. Your quoting the terms from your website clears up that personal contact information is NOT included, even if the ladies are willing to give it. Therefore, I will appoligize and withdraw the bait and switch accusation against you.

I can't imagine why anybody who understood those terms would actually pay for such a service, but you do make it clear that is what they are getting. You do understand that 'all communication through us' is a common scam used by dishonest (mostly Russian) agencies to play the sucker for a pile of translation and message forwarding charges, often with a 'lady' who only exists in their boiler room and is working on commission. I'm sorry I mistook you for that kind of operator and I do apologize.

... in response to Re: Re: Other Side of Coin, posted by LatinIntro on Nov 5, 2003

Nels,
 Could you clarify that last part?  "LAI Once again, personal contact information IS NOT CENSORED AT ALL for our all our members, except at the INternet Level"

The part "except at the INternet Level".  Does this mean all internet correspondence is censored?  I am not trying to be rude or vindictive but, that is what it sounds like.  Please correct me if I am wrong.

... in response to Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by Michael B on Nov 3, 2003

That's what I was thinking.

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

I sent a few letters down before going to LAI.  Overall, it was a bit of a waste.  You just need to get down there and spend some time with the gals running the agency to let them know what you are looking for.  I did meet some of the women I wrote to thinking I might be interested in them before I went.  What I realized pretty quickly was that the chemistry you MIGHT think you feel from looking at a picture doesn't necessarily translate after a personal meeting.  LAI restricts the replies from the ladies to them answering on thier website and sometimes they take a while to respond.  A few don't reply since the agency acts as a go-between and some normal delays can happen.
I paid for the $675 version which gave me five nights at the hotel at the agency.  Overall it was a totally positive experience.  

I Went down last minute on a buddy pass which resulted in a hairy moment for me upon leaving.  Unbeknownst to me, my luggage was flying standby also and as I was sitting in my seat ready to leave, a gate agent approached me and told me in spanish that I had to get off the plane since there wasn't enough room for my one bag below!!!!  I nearly had a heart attack thinking that I had to be at work the next day.  Two other people got taken off the flight for the same reason, but the captain told the agent I was staying and to get my bag onboard.  Later the flight attendant told me the reason was because the captain thought I worked for the government....haha...sometimes it pays to look like a DEA agent!!!  Nothing better than dumb luck!

BTW, I'm heading back down in 10 days to do some more due diligence on a particular lady.

Bottom line:  just get down there and check it out!

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

I think if you pay in Bogota you can join LAI for $300-$400.They don't tell you that on the web site because it would undercut some wholesalers that make several hundred dollars for sending you to them.
Put that money towards getting your butt down there.There is no substitute for that.

Pete

... in response to Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by Pete E on Nov 3, 2003

This is not correct.

We do offer  a weekly, monthly and yearly rate, but it is strictly for men joining locally at premises. No previous service can be rendered.

Nelson.

... in response to Re: Re: LAI and writing before going, posted by LatinIntro on Nov 5, 2003

Hello Nelson,
I am glad to read your posting because I have questions for you. Please don't take it as criticism, because I just want to understand your ladies and how they think.
I joined LAI about a year ago. Wrote some ladies, none were interested in corresponding. I admit I picked some of the nicer looking, younger ones, but, how can I put it, most of the men on this list want a younger, better looking lady than they can get here in the USA. And I picked ladies from your site that were if anything older and in truth judging by their pictures on the same level or not as good looking as the girlfriends I have had.
Your employee Claudia asked me once why I stopped trying and I told her the kind of ladies I was interested in, but she never got back to me as promised on finding me someone. So I have never made the effort to go to Bogota, and am planning a trip to Cali in a few weeks.
On the other hand, I get some unsolicited letters from some of your older ladies,they are very nice but I don't think they are ready to have another  2-3 kids as I want neither would they be comfortable with the kind of music my daughter plays, and the noise level here.

... in response to About LAI--Was LAI and writing before go..., posted by jey on Nov 6, 2003

Our EMS program has gone through many changes within the last 6 months. We have been improving the algorithm for the system in order to guarantee the 72 hour notification and to make it easier for the girls to respond. The changes made from one year ago to this moment have been substantial. I can not assure you that the girls you wrote to last time will be responding now, but I can assure you that you will now know what is happening to each letter you send down.

Send me a pivate email, I will set you up with a free month of EMS service.

Nelson

... in response to LAI and writing before going, posted by chevy on Nov 3, 2003

I had a lot of drop outs when I was doing emails/letters with women back in 1999.  It's par for the course.  Consider the circumstances.  Most of these women think (correctly) that they will probably never actually meet the man that is writing them.  If they do meet him there may not be chemistry.  If there is chemistry for her, he may still pick some other woman, because there are about 100 women in this process for every man.  So how much dedication are they going to put into email/letter writing before they ever meet the man?  Answer (for most):  notaheckuvalot.

But it is fun to open a letter or an email when they do write.  And it's easy to convince yourself that you are really very important to this beautiful woman who has never met you who is getting hit on by handsome men in her country all day long.  And you can even believe that after the webcam is turned off she goes to sleep dreaming of you instead of going out dancing with her girlfriends.  (Hope that's not a bummer).

Steve

... in response to Letter writing again, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 3, 2003

My wife said she got so many letters that she just couldn't answer them all so she eventually stopped answering them at all. She had a great photo in the books and had a steady stream of letters and phone calls.

The few that she did answer had to contain a photo and she had to have some interest. Some didn't respond and some never went to Cali.

She didn't have a computer and the agency office was at the opposite end of town from where she lived. She felt if the guys were truly interested they would come to Cali to meet her.

Some of the guys she did meet in Cali but there wasn't any interest on her part after she met them.

Sometimes it's just timing. The good ones won't be around long so if you see something you like don't drag your feet. Fortunately there are always new ladies to meet.

Keep in mind the photos in the brochures and on the agency websites might NOT be up to date. I remember being in the agency office and one of the office girls was going through the latest edition of the brochure and marking the girls off, "Married, engaged, gone, married" etc.

... in response to I have to back up Steve on this., posted by Freddie on Nov 3, 2003

She looks similar to this girl from Traveller's site (CaliCita.com) only my wife has a smaller, cuter nose. She is 31.
http://calicita.com/Preview/A10510.jpg

In case you're wondering what I look like. Think Richard Dreyfuss with glasses. I am 50. My point? You CAN get a beautiful girl to marry you.

You must possess some qualities that will transfer from American to Colombian.

1. Sincerety.
2. Honesty.
3. Loyalty.
4. Provide shelter, comfort and security.
5. Smile.
6. Dance (or at least be willing to try).
7. Be open-minded about helping her family.
8. Give her some space and allow her to have Spanish-speaking friends.
9. Don't smother her with your 'true love'. They get the picture.
10. Don't make her feel you can't trust her or you have to account for every minute of her time or whereabouts.

There are no guarantees to happiness. If it works, great, if not, there are more out there. I keep a thought in the back of my mind that eventually she will grow tired of my old, fat self. If that day comes all I can say is it was fun while it lasted. So far it's lasted almost 4 years.

... in response to In case you're wonder what my wife looks..., posted by Freddie on Nov 3, 2003

Freddie - your da man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good points made on the list.

jim