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What are the things that one should consider when bringing a new wife to the US? Loneliness and homesickness are obstacles to overcome. What are other things we need to be prepared for?
Or in other words, what can be done ahead of time to prepare for a foreign wife?
I'd like to thank all that contributed to my blueprint for success thread and hope for even more input with this one.  
JSlo

... in response to New wife in USA, now what? , posted by JSlo on Oct 15, 2003

Here are some of the steps that I went through:

1 - Apply for Social Security card.
2 - Apply for health insurance.
3 - Teach her how to drive.
4 - Add her to auto insurance.
5 - Visit dentist.
6 - Enroll in English classes.
7 - Get birth control pills (or not).
8 - Buy new clothes (you can't put much in 2 suitcases).
9 - Buy coats (if she's from Cali she doesn't have any).
10 - Obtain prenup (or not).
11 - Get cable (if you're cheap like me and didn't have cable).

If she's bringing children:
1 - Buy children's bed(s).
2 - Enroll kids in school.
3 - Buy school supplies.
4 - Obtain more vaccinations.

It may be cheaper for her to do some of these in her country before she arrives.

Steve

... in response to Foreign Bride Arrival Checklist, posted by DallasSteve2 on Oct 15, 2003

I'll try to insert a few:

0.1 - Scout out possible latina connections before she arrives, a girlfriend will be of assistance - usually the English school will be sufficient for connections.
0.2 - Clean and organize house, but don't paint/remodel - that'll be her job (believe me, you just might come home one day to a completely different interior color - and it won't be white).
0.3 - Famaliarize yourself with your local public transport if you don't alreay utilize it - she'll need that for the 1st couple of months - you don't want her stuck at home!  A bicycle may also be a good consideration.  
0.4 - Consider what the financial arrangement will be - carefull on this one!

I'd move #3 - driving further down the list, she'll need to get at least a feel of the town and our driving habits 1st.

... in response to That's pretty complete..., posted by cancunhound on Oct 15, 2003

I don't think scouting out "latina connections" is such a good idea for a new wife. First of all, you don't want her around a lot of spanish speaking people. When choosing a school, you should choose one with the lowest possible number of spanish speaking students. Go for with with pure asians or arabs. She will still bond with these people because they are strangers like her, but she won't be speaking spanish 24/7. The idea is to get her speaking english.

And most importantly, with Latina connections come Latin Men. The more latin men and women she is around, the more she will realize that maybe she doesnt need all your support because she has a support network ready or she might just start getting some on the side from another Colombian because they have sooo much more in common. Be careful!

... in response to Re: That's pretty complete..., posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

I'm sorry I didn't keep my eye on this thread.  It got pretty interesting and active.

Having brought 2 Colombianas here I can speak with some experience on this.  And what I have seen, and what my wife admits to me is:

The Latin friends that meet them here will assume that they don't love us, that they only married us for the visa, and they are all too eager to introduce them to other men who they will love so that they don't have to stay with us evil men who are exploiting them.

That's what her Latin friends will assume when they meet her.

Steve

... in response to Re: That's pretty complete..., posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

This would all be behaviour of a guy very insecure about the relationship.  As far as choosing the school, unless you're in Florida you will have a large number of asian or arab speaking  regardless - so choose the most affordable and convenient, don't blow alot of money on this one - she'll either have the drive and will to learn or she won't - que será será.  The bigger the support network the better IMHO, unless your idea of a sucessfull marriage is to play the role of babysitter as well.  The quicker you can get her established in her niche of friends, whether latinas or not - the quicker you can get back to NFL football, the lazyboy and cerveza come Sunday.

... in response to Re: That's pretty complete..., posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

Since I ALREADY have a Latin wife Aaron, unlike you, I don't have to rely on advice I get from google searches.  And I disagree with what you said.  A Latin wife DOES need Latin connections when she gets here because she has enough adjustment going on without adding isolation to the list.  My wife has done incredibibly well on her English, considering a year ago she didn't know any.  We are able to discuss almost anything except extremely precise or detailed things with no problems.  But I don't expect her to talk English all the time.  She loves to be able to talk to her girlfriends and just babble about whatever is on her mind in Spanish and I would hate for her not to have that outlet.

... in response to Disagree!, posted by lswote on Oct 16, 2003

Listen bro.. I am not going to waste my time with you. If you want to go head to head on anything about Cali - say the word. Why dont you ask me what is the last word on page A8 of the PRINT addition of El Pais today. The sad reality is I am in Cali. If you and your wife are happy.. Then thats great - but I wouldnt be. You guys seem to be in the dark about Colombian women. So let me spell it out real real clear for you:

THEY CHEAT JUST AS MUCH AS COLOMBIAN MEN!!!

You think they are looking for american guys because colombian guys are unfaithful. That is bogus. Colombian guys are unfaithful because there women are unfaithful. If you want examples I can give it to you. But first why dont you prove I am Aaron you half wit. You can't do it. And remember what Pete said about being paranoid? He was refering to me. Pete knows I am not Aaron. I think everyone knows it except you. So why dont you proove me wrong big shot. Or did you loose all your money getting ripped off in Cartagena?

... in response to Re: Disagree!, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

How come you are the only poster on this board supposedly lucky enough to live in Cali who dislikes it so much?  Pete thinks moving there would be heaven.  traveller would stay for the women if the business dealings weren't so bad.  Calivet has nothing but good things to say.  But you CaliAdvisor, supposedly living in women-central can only think to pitch in that the women are unfaithful.  Frankly that seems to be the drawing card for some guys to Cali, that they can play around and not have to marry a gal.  But instead of reporting how you have a different beautiful girlfriend for everyday of the month, all you can pipe in with is that the men are unfaithful because the women are unfaithful.  Owwww, ground-shaking revelation.  Wonder what google search terms you entered to find that drivel.

You remind me so much of Aaron who supposedly had all these great women friends in Cali, visited them regularly, but no girlfriends.  No he talked of starting a relationship with a Latin woman in NY.  NY?  WTF would anyone do that?  Pick the apples from the ground when you can get the best ones easily from the tree?  So tell me CaliAdvisor, why are you even in Cali?  Waiting for your visa to be approved for the Ukraine?

... in response to And another thing, posted by lswote on Oct 16, 2003

Like I said earlier, I really can't waste my time with you buddy. Pete knows where my email address and domain name are from. But it seems now that you are admitting the truth and your Sherlock Holmes detective days of conspiracy theories are over. Please don't respond to this message, because you have nothing to add. Like I said I dont think I will have time in the future to continue responding to you.

... in response to Re: And another thing, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

Pete E. knows where your email address and domain name is from?  What a crock?  And do you mean Patrick or Pete E?  I don't think Pete E would know that.  If that is all you have to go on then shine on liar boy as IP spoofing is child's play for anyone familiar with the internet.  I could look like I was posting from the White House if I wanted to.

I said if Pete E could verify he met you or talked to you on the phone I would apologize, but you did exactly what I predicted you would do, which is to claim email was proof.  Must suck to be you, huh?

... in response to Re: Disagree!, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

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How do you know colombianas cheat as much as colombian men?

Are you having a lot of sex with colombian women in commited relationships?  hehehe!

I take it back; you couldn't be Aaron. He swore off having sex (with women anyway).

How's the weather in Cali? Trip report, Please!

... in response to Re: Re: Disagree!, posted by Calipro on Oct 16, 2003

Well Calipro.. You've proved to be a real pro. I wasnt going to mention it before because I didnt want to get into it but that is exactly how I know Colombian women are not faithful.

On several occasions I have found myself in bed with a caleña who has a gringo husband or boyfriend in the USA or Europe. They might be "just visiting family" while their husband is in the USA or maybe they are waiting for their visa papers. Either way, the presence of some older husband in their life who they are suposedly commited to has never stopped them from getting a royal shagging from me. Of course, with many of these women I found out after the fact that they were married or commited. I couldn't help but thinking of the poor bastards that were believing their lies.

I don't want to get in to too much detail here because possibly some of their "novios" are participants on this board.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Disagree!, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

The only thing you regularly shag is the carpet.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Disagree!, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

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You haven't snagged any away from the young colombianos!!!

Going for the easy prey are we. I thought you were doing better than the nasty old wives and girlfriends of americans waiting for their visas. hehehe!!

If you want to move up to a younger better looking group of Caleñas let me know. I'll show you how it's done. I'll be in Cali the 17th of Dec.

As it is americans are pretty much getting the bottom of the barrel down there and I hate to think of you taking their sloppy seconds.

P.S. Go into as much detail as you want. Got any photos??

... in response to What???, posted by Calipro on Oct 16, 2003

Of course I snag em away from Colombianos too. But I have a rule, I don't mess around with Colombianas who are married to Colombians. That is just a safey concern, and a pretty obvious one at that. If you havent learned it yet, maybe you aint such a pro. Of course, maybe the boyfriends of the Strata 2 girls you date arent that much of a threat. But when you start getting up to the strata 6 girls who have rich and powerful boyfriends, who already have paid for their implants, you had better be careful buddy. The difference is, I dont go slumming to get girls.

And the ones that I have been with who were married to Gringos have been great looking too. Probably some of the same trophy wives that you have had might have been mine too.

... in response to Re: What???, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 17, 2003

I submit the following evidence to support my claim that CaliAdvisor is Aaron.  In the previous post CaliAdvisor said "But when you start getting up to the strata 6 girls who have rich and powerful boyfriends, who already have paid for their implants, you had better be careful buddy."  Aaron had a thing about strata too.  So I did a search for "strata 6" in the archives.  Found this post, first one to actually use the term "strata 6" as opposed to just containing the words strata and 6.  It is by Aaron:
http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/search/searchdisplay.php?page=latin&archive=000145&id=45051&bold[]=strata&bold[]=6

where Aaron said "I just got off the telephone this morning with a good Colombian female friend who is currently there in Colombia ... She's way above strata 6 in terms of housing".

In the same thread Aaron spoke about himself in this post:
http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/latin/archives/display.php?archive=000145&id=45071

He labeled the post "Pete, I'd be strata 15, but that's another story."

Doesn't conclusively prove anything but adds one more piece of evidence.

... in response to I submit the following evidence, posted by lswote on Oct 17, 2003

so what! I don't think Patric wanted to ban him in the first place. The only reason he banned him was because half the posts on the board were either complaining about him or attacking him.

Quit trying to prove its him because everybody already knows it's him including Patric.

... in response to It's Aaron but...., posted by Calipro on Oct 18, 2003

Hmmm good point Calipro, LOL.

... in response to Re: What???, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 17, 2003

I'm driving to Nogales, Mexico to party with the strata "0" girls :-o I'll be there in two and a half hours so I'll talk to you chumps later.

It sure ain't Cali but what the hell, Calipro

... in response to Re: What???, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 17, 2003

But Aaron, you are strata 15, what are you doing slumming with these Strata 6 girls?

... in response to What???, posted by Calipro on Oct 16, 2003

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Calipro,
Better looking Calenas are very easy for you to snag, I'll give you that.  You are the "pro" when it comes to meeting the more attractive ones.   But do you have what it takes to keep them???  History seems to say no.  First Calena wife left you with no explanation.  Second Calena wife wouldn't leave her boyfriend for you.  I'm very curious as to what # 3 will bring.  Maybe the bottom of the barrell in the long run might not be a bad idea for you either.  At least you'll have a women who is committed to you, who'll NEVER leave you.  As a whole the 9's and 10's are harder to please, the models have a spoiled life-style there, much harder to please when they're here.  Not every man has the financial capability to take care of these women when they're here.  Not many gringos have the looks, charm, or personality to attract such women.  So is it wrong that some americans go for the bottom of the barrell??  If they are happy, you shouldn't judge.  I've been to Colombia alot, as you well know, but I've only met a few gringos who are going for marriage #3 with a Calena.
In my experience in Colombia I've noticed that many of the failed relationships have one factor in common, that is, men seem to try to attract women who are out of their league, then they can't understand why the women leave them or maintain boyfriends behind their back.  Or they don't have the financial means to take care of them when they're here, and the women become very disappointed when they get here and their "prince charming" doesn't have a pot to piss in.
You see guys, beautiful women in Cali are a dime a dozen.  Models in Cali are a dime a dozen.  All are very easy to meet if you're half-way decent looking, can speak some spanish, and have a good personality.  But, show me a man who can have a successful relationship (long-term) with one, or ANY calena for that matter, and I'll show you a real "PRO".  In a few short weeks, any decent guy as I described above can fill a beautiful naive Calena with many wonderful thoughts and promises, as a whole these women are easy to impress, but one day the real truth comes out, and if the guy can't deliver, these women are gone, or return to their boyfriends.  Of course the gringo can't understand why.
I'll be in Cali the time you're there Calipro, do want to show me the ropes???  You and I both know that's not possible.  For all of you other guys, go with your heart, but be smart.  You'll know if the woman is 100% crazy for you.  Don't go over your head in the looks department, no matter what anyone says. Don't let a guy like Calipro put you down just because you're not running with the type of women he is.  There is alot to be said for a woman who loves and adores you with all of their heart, and to have that, with no doubts, is a beautiful thing and will give you a lifetime of happiness.

... in response to Re: What???, posted by beenthere on Oct 17, 2003

BeenThere

That's a wise post.

Steve

... in response to Re: What???, posted by beenthere on Oct 17, 2003

Ben There,
 This post makes me a little curious.  You mentioned that the Cali beautiful women are a "dime a dozen" and they are "easy to impress".  I have ben to Cali (beenthere?).  I am not sure I aggree.  I would agree with Calipro's statement that there might be 5 or 6 in an agency he would be interested in.  He posted photos of the 5 or 6 so, we know he actually met these "beautiful Cali women".  I think the beautiful cali women aren't too eager to leave Colombia (they can get whatever they need in Colombia).  Well, that is my experience.  Unless, of course they have 1-3 children then it is a different story entirely.  I think wizard posted his Cali experience.  If I remember correctly (Mark, correct me if this quote is incorrect).  "There are usually two types of single women in Cali: Attractive women with kids and unattractive women without kids".  
  Okay, back to my curious question.  Ben there, you seem like a guy who could get what he wants but, why have you beenthere 27 times?  Keep in mind, I am not trying to slam you.  I am curious and got reeeeel curious after your "Beautiful Cali women are plentiful" post.

... in response to Re: Re: What???, posted by HeyNow on Oct 17, 2003

I don't think beenthere has time to answer a sincere question.  He is too busy talking about how to block phones calls from women to your room while you are with another woman trying to convince her you are a nice caring guy looking for a lifemate.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What???, posted by lswote on Oct 17, 2003

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Iswote,
This a very typical post from you and your cohorts on this board.  You see guys, for whatever reason, some of these guys LOVE to provoke some people into confrontations, then they are the first to cry when the person they attack fights back.  Not sure why you want to pick a fight with me, but my advice to you would be to spend a little more time with your wife, with your job, and a little less time provoking people on the internet.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: What???, posted by beenthere on Oct 17, 2003

Don't know if you think I cry if a person fights back.  I certainly try to bring notice to guys that I think should be banned, such as CaliAdvisor who I am positive is a formerly banned poster, and bigb, who is just an idiot, but I don't have a problem with people giving as good as they get.  I might be wrong about you, and perhaps I shouldn't have jumped in.  But for all Calipro's faults, I have begrudging respect for the fact that he is so upfront about his approach to Latin women.  It wouldn't be my approach, and I was even a little offended when he posted pictures of those women a few months back, but he seems straight up and he has won my respect.  You attacked him, when you really hadn't been attacked by him (at least not in this post) and it just ticked me off a bit.  I understand you have a bit of a feud running with him and perhaps I shouldn't have stepped into it.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What???, posted by lswote on Oct 17, 2003

I accept your apology.

... in response to Re: Re: What???, posted by HeyNow on Oct 17, 2003

HeyNow,
I've never had to rely on agencies to meet women, they are an option, but the majority of the women that I've dated (including my ex-wife) I met on my own, without the help of an agency.  I will reiterate, beautiful women in Cali do come a dime a dozen.  I'm not sure the places you have frequented, but they are there.  I'm sure that many of the beautiful ones would leave if they had the right man to offer them a good life-style here in the states.  The only problem is not that many gringos that go down there (that I've seen) can give them what they need.  One of my ex-girlfriends is a model and a TV personality.  She wants out of Colombia, in fact she's in Spain now interviewing for jobs. I really am not attracted to women who are "eager" to leave Colombia, I'm more interested in a woman who wants me for who I am, no matter if I live in the US, Colombia, or the South Pole.
As far as my many trips to Colombia, well I am one who is not going to make the same mistake twice.  I prefer to REALLY get to know a woman.  I'm not going to make a 2 week trip to Colombia, then decide to get married a month later.  I'm not desperate, I'm going to invest in many trips and get to know the lady before I make a committment again.  Plus I have many friends there that I enjoy visiting, I love the culture, the music, the food.
As far as posting pictures, I don't need to do it to prove that there are beautiful women in Cali, or to prove that I've been with beautiful women.  I'm not participating in this forum to impress people.  
HeyNow, I have a question for you:  Are you more impressed with a man who takes his time in relationships, learns from his mistakes, or are you more impressed with a man who's been married 2 or 3 times, rushes into relationships, only to fail horribly again and again??
If I have to go to Colombia 50 times so be it, as long as I have the means to do it.  I ALWAYS have a great time in Colombia, in fact I just got back Monday from a 10 day trip there.  Everytime I come back I know a little more about myself, what I'm looking for, not to mention the new friends I've made and the possibilities I've encountered.
I hope that answers your question.  BTW I'm not afraid of being slammed, remember I've been called an idiot, weasel, low class, poor slob, and have been accused of being a pedophile on this board, so I welcome any slams with open arms.  Take Care!

... in response to Re: Re: Re: What???, posted by beenthere on Oct 17, 2003

Thanks for the reply Ben there,
 Ben, there are some things I understand and a lot more I am not sure about.  First off, I haven't been there twenty seven times and my Spanish is somewhat lousy.  On a couple occasions I have met girls that insisted I speak spanish and this stretched my Spanish ability pretty far.  I guess I should concentrate on learning more.  Well, enough of that. There has been considerable debate of using agencys vs. non-agencys.  I agree that most of the agency women want to leave Colombia.  I am not convinced that most Colombian women want to leave.  This applies to the beautiful Cali women (like the ones walking around Chip-Chapi).  Also, I am not convinced they ALL are crazy about gringos.  I believe it is a matter of taste.  Some of these Colombian  woman think gringos are the cutest guys they have ever seen.  It's just a matter of taste.  Getting back to the "wanting to leave" factor.  I am sure the majority of women with 1-3 children want to leave.  It is mighty tough for them to get a husband in Colombia. And it dosen't really matter how good looking they are.  With your experience I am suprised you didn't address this in your answer.  The agencys know this and will always promote the ones with children.  Okay, now for my opinion.  It seems from my limited Colombian experience to actually marry a young obviously attractive Colombian woman without children (25-35) is more than meets the eye (with or without an agency). Hence, 27+ visits in your case and divorce in Calipro's case.  Another opinion:  The agencys aren't too crazy about anyone getting married to an obviously attractive young (25-35) Colombian woman member.  They are very hard to replace.

HeyNow just my tooo cents!

... in response to Re: What???, posted by beenthere on Oct 17, 2003

Long time no post, I was starting to think you got banned or something. I'll see you in December just try and be COOl!!! Ok!

Anyway I'm not trying to get down on guys that don't marry beauty queens but I sure wouldn't go around bragging that I was bang-ing them like Cali Advisor.

Some times I think the one trip wonders got it right. They just go down on a TLC tour or to the agencies for one trip; find one that they like and marry her. No long courtship, no trip after trip to Colombia seeing just how beautiful a wife they can marry. Just to desperate people hooking up. These are the guys that never seek out a board like this and whose to say they are not happy. They never knew what the posibilies were and they never got confused by them either. Maybe ignorance is blist.

Since I'll be staying at the Inter. this time, I think I'll try your approach. I'll invite the women over to have some drinks around the pool. At least I'll know what they look like in a bikini before I take them out dancing.

Anyway I'm going to need you to tell me again how to keep the phone from ringing in your room when you are with a girl. Yeah, you're a saint alright.

See ya around, Calipro

... in response to Re: Re: What???, posted by Calipro on Oct 17, 2003

You don't really believe Aaron, eh I mean CaliAdvisor, really "royally shagged" anybody do you?  That is the biggest load of crap I ever heard.  Did you notice how he said "Of course, with many of these women I found out after the fact that they were married or commited."?  Right! That is how it was.  No chance of Aaron, er CaliAdvisor, just taking advantage of a woman and not giving a s**t whether she was involved is there?  Of course not, we know what a caring, sensitive guy CaliAdvisor is.  Actually, he probably didn't take advantage of any women, because he is such a tight-assed weenie, that there is no possible way he actually hooked up with anybody.  I think he is confusing his dreams with reality.

... in response to Re: Re: What???, posted by Calipro on Oct 17, 2003

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at the Inter, just dial 821 and that blocks incoming calls, just remember to do it on both lines.  To cancel the block just dial 822.

... in response to Re: Disagree!, posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

Actually I know of at least a half dozen posters on this board who also think you are Aaron.  Don't know what you are talking about regarding Cartagena; I was never robbed or ripped off there.

If Pete tells me that he KNOWS you in person as someone other than Aaron, I will apologize.  His guess won't be enough, he has to have met you at a party or talked to you on the phone or something along those lines.  Frankly your M.O. is so similar to Aaron's and you showed up just after he was banned and clearly you have posted on this board before under some other identity as you are too familiar with things.  A guy can observe this board for 10 years, but until you start posting you don't quite know all the ins and outs of the board and you knew them all immediately.  But if Pete says he knows you and that you aren't Aaron I will back off calling you Aaron.

I was of the opinion that Pete was referring to traveller when he spoke about paranoid people.  I read everything on this board and clearly he has never talked to you directly about being paranoid nor expressed any evidence of knowing you and usually he pipes in if he has the inside track on someone.  Ironically he piped in when Aaron attacked me back when my wife was ill to say he had talked to me on the phone and knew me to be really who I say I am.

Okay, wheel out Pete, I am really dying to hear his take on things.  I bet he says he has received email from you or something but never met or spoken on the phone to you; that sure is hell isn't going to prove you aren't Aaron.

... in response to Hey Pete, do you know this guy?, posted by lswote on Oct 16, 2003

Bruce,
If I ever had any off board posts with Cali Advisor I don't remember.I appologise to him if I don't connect his name here with any conversation we may have had,I talk to alot of people and get confused who they are some time.
Maybe he was refering to a post I might have done when you thought someone was Aaron.I may have said I know this guy,he is not Aaron.
Maybe I'm not very observant but none of these guys seem like Aaron to me.But then the Aaron I knew changed alot in his last 2 weeks or so.If someone was an imposter It would seem the guy who was doing the posts and signing Aaron.But then what happened to the real Aaron? No,it was him I think.

Pete

... in response to Well Pinochio, er Aaron, he don't know y..., posted by lswote on Oct 16, 2003

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... in response to I was refering to Patrick no Pete. He ca..., posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 17, 2003

Patrick has admitted to being more interested in his new child than to spending a lot of time with this message board and I don't blame him.  But I think he has been tricked by IP spoofing.  With more investigation, just about any IP can be tracked down, spoofed or not, but on first glance a good IP spoofing looks legitimate and I think that is what happened here.  With more investigation I am sure he would find that CaliAdvisor is not what he appeared to be at first glance.

... in response to Re: That's pretty complete..., posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

So your proposal is: isolate new wives from the latin culture in the US, and place them in the company of other foreigners. What will that accomplish? If you can't trust her, why have her here?

... in response to Re: Re: That's pretty complete..., posted by JSlo on Oct 16, 2003

Obviosly from the experience on this board - you can't trust them many of them. Look at the average life span of these marriages. You have to be careful with any women you find in a marriage agency. There motives are suspect from day one. For this reason, you want her to be sorrounded by your culture rather than revert back to hers. Get realist.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: That's pretty complete..., posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

Your overall comments are amateurish at best, contradictory and borders on the absurd. If you follow the board you know that I don't use agencies, but at the same time I don't have a problem with one that elects to do so. No one died and left me judge and jury. You reveal quite a bit of your personality by being suspicious and at times down right nasty. If you were a trustworthy person you'd probably attract those kind of people in your life. I would hate to be near you when you receive what's coming to you. Remember, what goes around comes around. If you truly believed that, you wouldn't be yakking about shagging married women and other questionable behaviour of yours. You are truly a disappointment!
Another abortion survivor!
JSlo

... in response to Re: Re: Re: That's pretty complete..., posted by CaliAdvisor on Oct 16, 2003

CONTROL!

... in response to Nothing says "I love you" like..., posted by surfscum on Oct 16, 2003

That's funny.  I laughed.

Steve

... in response to New wife in USA, now what? , posted by JSlo on Oct 15, 2003

Also be sure and explain to her the fact that there is a reason why American men marry foreign women and that is because WE DON'T WANT AN AMERICAN WIFE!

She needs to understand this in order to (hopefully) not become like them.