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Without engaging in stereotypes or generalizations, I have noticed a few common patterns with these ladies.  For one thing, I believe that Brazilian women, more than the other latin cultures, truly accept large age differences with men.  Every single Brazilian women I have dated has told me that they have had MUCH older boyfriends in their pasts, often when they were very young.  I'm talking about the women dating men in their late 30's/early 40's when the women were 20 or 18 or 16 years old.  It's not that I am looking for this kind of age gap, but it seems that Brazilian women in their late 20's truly think nothing for a man to be 10-15 years their senior and it's not just agency hype.

A second recurring theme amongst the women seems to be that there are 10-12 single women for every single man in Brazil.  Maybe this helps to explain the acceptance of age differences.  I have heard woman after woman say this, and while it cannot possibly be entirely true, it sure does conjur up some nice images.  (Then again, if you go to an after-work happy hour on Friday afternoons around here in NYC/NJ, you'd swear there were 10 men for every attractive single woman!)

A final thing that has struck me is that most of the Brazilian women I have known will talk about old boyfriends or other male friends and how much they have "helped" them in the past.  And by "help", of course, they are referring to financial assistance of some sort.  No - they weren't asking for money exactly, but it is clear that they appreciate, and to a certain degree, expect a boyfriend to "help" them out, often substantially.  From some of these stories, these guys dropped some serious coin on these ladies, and have nothing to show for it.

Maybe I'm just a cheap S.O.B., but unless I'm married (or at least engaged) to a woman, I am not about to start buying her a car or paying her rent or helping her to start a business or pay her medical bills.  Yet I have heard of guys doing all of these things and more, and their Brazilian ladies still left them in the end.  And yet, I have not found the Brazilian ladies to be overly materialistic either.

I met my ex from the FSU when she was here only two months and barely spoke English.  At the time, my ex was one of the sweetest, most good-hearted women I've ever met, but she has unfortunately changed for the worse in the 4 1/2 years I have known her, and so have all of her friends.  My wife and her friends have all grown to be more manipulative and money hungry, and it's a shame because I think they were probably so nice when they were still living in their country.  Among almost 2 dozen of her friends, only 1 has a successful AM/RW marriage that is still intact.  I have recently learned that several of her friends are married both in their native republic and also married here for papers.

Soapbox time: One thing that angers me is that I have met so many FSU people living here who have a complete disdain and contempt for our system, laws, rules, culture, and way of life.  It's especially annoying when they are living here and benefiting economically.  One reason the western economic system works well, compared to much of the rest of the world, is that it is dependent upon a basic intrinsic honesty of most humans who are willing to work within the economic and legal system to better themselves.  In the Soviet/FSU system, success was dictated by one's ability to circumvent or bribe the system.  Our system unfortunately makes for an easy mark when mass numbers of these individuals are entering the with sole intention of conning, defrauding and abusing the system.  Case in point is the recent 600-person indictment in Suffolk County, NY, centering around a Brooklyn-based insurance fraud ring consisting of Russian nationals.

If they are not US citizens and they are convicted of a felony they will be deported after serving their sentence.

Take care,

Mark

another idea might be that since they are dating such older men than themselves, that an older man will have extra money to waste. its like a kid in high school trying to date a girl at his level, when she is  dating a guy who finished college, has a good job, a car and is making money, a little hard to compete with that. just a thought.

Maybe Cherinha could shed some light on those numbers but they sound a little skewed to me.  Where did all them Brazilian dudes go I wonder.  I would also be curious if she would concur about the age differences there.  It seemed that way also in Colombia.

It is interesting as we both had an interest in RW and now LW.

Suerte,

Pablo

In Cali, I did find one interesting statistic that would however account for slight male/female ratios.  Check these homicide stats out for year 2000 in Cali:

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Homicidios comunes según edad y género de la víctima      
Edad/género   H   M

Total        1,870     93

0 - 10        10     2

10 - 19        329     16

20 - 29        728     38

30 - 39        442     18

40 - 49        242     11

50 - 59        81     3

60 - 64        15     2

64+        23     3

FUENTE : Epidemiología de la Violencia / Secretaría de Gobierno      
   
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Wow!  Conclusion, looks pretty good for women in Cali - but a man - better buy a bullet proof vest according to those stats.  They even go further and break out the deaths by day of week and time of day - conclusion there is STAY at home on Friday, traffic deaths and murder odds are not in your favor!

Pete

Pete

I totally agree about the women who want bad boys or Romeo types, at least until they've been burned a few times, even though few will admit it.  Although many women claim not to care about looks as much as men do, I've known a couple of good looking guys who always had women throwing themselves at them, and these guys had the personalities of old shoes.  The women didn't seem to care.

Now do tell, how do you manage to meet so many Brazilians in New York and New Jersey? I know Queens has a pretty large population but where in New Jersey? The east new york area? My ex girlfriend in Brazilian and when I get back from Colombia I am definetely going to be in the market for a Brazilian or Colombian girlfriend in NY.

Geez, you are a first class moron!

However, I have another advantage because a good friend and business associate of mine is married to a Brazilian woman who is always trying to fix me up with one of her many single friends.  I'm a bit reluctant though, because if it doesn't work out, I don't want to hurt my friendship and business relationship with my friend.

There are pockets of people from different countries living in other small cities around NJ.  There are many Colombian people living around Union City/West New York/North Bergen, as well as other people from Latin America.  Elizabeth, Dover, and Morristown, NJ also have significant Colombian populations that have developed over time.  But my experience has been that Brazilian women seem to be much more receptive to meeting, and possibly dating, a man who they have met without an introduction.

I have to agree with you on your point about Brazilians being more open to meeting people without an introduction. The Brazilian culture is more open and less conservative than Colombian and the climate of insecurity in Colombia really affects how people act. Women are more wary of just meeting some random guy at a bar or in the supermarket because he could be Narco or Guerrilla or just plain old psycho. Although I am literally swimming in Colombian women down here, almost all of the gals I am friends with or seeing are ones that I have met through common friends or work.

But please don't worry, when I get some time, you will be put in your place.

Pete

Pete

One thing that does seem to be a consistently true is that many Brazilian men lose interest in women over the age of about 25 or so.  A never-married woman of 30 definately seems to suffer from an old-maid stigma in Brazil.

An interesting thing that a couple of Brazilian women told me is they think that Brazilian men are much nicer when they are living here in the US for a while.  The numbers are not in their favor here, so they are less macho and less inclined to cheat, and are more attentive husbands/boyfriends.

On the HS level I believe more males drop out than females, so even among the less educated, the ladies tend to have more education etc.

These factors can further skew the odds for the ladies.

They (American women) have worked so hard to unimmasculate (is that a word?) us as a species that we have become almost neutered. We are the lap dog that has been kicked and beaten and yelled at to the point that we cower whenever they come around but still can't do enough to gain their favor.

Our self-esteem has taken a beating to the point that we KNOW they will not have anything to do with us unless we constantly worship them and feed their ego and provide something tangible in order for them to even give us the time of day.

And they wonder why we look to other countries for female companionship and mates.

Of course that could just be me.

The word is emasculate.  Men who are emasculated receive a testiclectomy from their women in their lives.  Its not covered by insurance.