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Title: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY Post by: bogota vet on February 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM [This message has been edited by bogota vet]
Patrick, How do we tell about all the problems with this agency, when someone asks? I just want to make sure this doesn't get deleted so I posted it seperate. Patrick this is all I will say for now, because it just a general statements about the problems with this agency:
Be careful that they explain you will have to pay at least $105 US dollar for a hotel room , paid in advance to them before you travel, EVEN AFTER you have paid a seperate membership fee!!!! Also many many of the girls, the agency will claim do not have a phone or email , but only AFTER you have paid the membership fee will you be told this!!!!! Be very careful, DO NOT to send ANY money to a man named Roberto, who runs the agency in Colombia. AND DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY TO ANY OF THE GIRLS, AT LEAST UNTIL YOU HAVE MET THEM IN PERSON. OF THE GIRLS I PICKED, most of them asked me to send money, Also the lady owner lives in Sweden, so you will not be meeting her in Colombia, even though that is where you send the membership fee.
Title: $105 US for hotel room is crazy Post by: lswote on February 07, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by bogota vet on Feb 5, 2003
I stay at the Hotel La Fontana when I am in Bogota. It is the nicest hotel in Bogota, and it costs me only $54 per day. It just went up from $50 per day. There is no hotel in Colombia that should cost you $105 per day. I would say the price of the hotel room alone should be a big red flag about this agency. Title: Epitaph... Post by: wizard on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by bogota vet on Feb 5, 2003
Here lies what was once known as tropicalmates.com... This little known agency committed harikiri on February 6th, 2003... The agency owner disembowelled herself with a computer keyboard while casting disparaging remarks upon those she wished to lure into her web of deceipt... She performed this act while in the throws of depression over her inability to solicit any ignorant, poor and desperate middle class norte americanos to use her pitiful agency... This action was witnessed by those she wished to entice... In fact, the crowd cheered as she bared her true soul for all to see... She is survived by her trusty dog toto, who unfortunately was eaten by the wolves that were clawing at her door... May tropicalmates.com rest in pieces... Title: One more important point !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post by: bogota vet on February 07, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Epitaph..., posted by wizard on Feb 6, 2003
[This message has been edited by bogota vet] Along with the other problems I've mentioned and the owner's attitude:, Here is another important point that needs to be emphasized about this particular Colombian agency. Several of the women are NOT located in the agency city. So the gringo has to pay for her out of town housing, and transportation costs to the agency location. This can add up to some costs. I found out too late. BEFORE a gringo ever would join this agency, be sure to ask WHAT COLOMBIAN CITY the girl lives in, you want to meet, and how much more it would cost for her to come to the agency. Get a quote first, no need for surprises.
Title: Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY Post by: Patrick on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by bogota vet on Feb 5, 2003
Bogota Vet, I'll let you decide whether this whole thread stays or goes. I've banned Tropicalmates from posting (as well as Gmelo). Agency owners are welcome to post here as long as they remain civil and professional about it and don't use the forum for advertising. This agency has stepped over the line though. I see charges on both sides, but no way to substantiate them, so I'm not going to delete their listing. I checked out their web site and at least one of the complaints (about the $105/night room not being known before joining) was listed on their membership page near the bottom. I don't see enough evidence to delete their listing. If any of the women in their agency scam men, then they should remove them if they are presented with sufficient evidence. One has to realize though that these services cater to both the men and the women and both should be treated equally. The women usually do not pay for any service, but without both male and female clients, no agency would be in business. Title: Re: Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY Post by: bogota vet on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by Patrick on Feb 6, 2003
[This message has been edited by bogota vet] What I was saying it is $550 plus $105 a night, this is something the gringos should ask about. Many times gringos join and think when they go visit, they can stay at any place they want, but this agency makes you prepay the hotel room of $105 no matter what, even if you are already a member, otherwise you cannot use the agency. That's why I said use only the travel membership plan, you get the hotel room and the onsite membership all together for the $105. If they change that policy just make sure you get it in writing. And you remember you are paying a person located in Sweden, so you can forget about ever trying to get back any money. This holds true with a few other agencies also. Also quite few of the Colombian girls are not located in the agency city, the member must then pay money to get the girls visit the agency location, and you have to pay for her expenses. You can only meet the agency girls at the agency, no matter where she lives, the agency claims for safety reasons, bottomline is it will cost the gringo extra bucks. All in all, with so many great agencies choices. This one agency, the gringo better get everything clear from the agency owner before joining. Patrick, Then keep the thread as is. MAYBE down the line, this agency will improve and a gringo will come back with something nice to say. But at least everyone is warned. Title: Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY Post by: littlebhuddha on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by bogota vet on Feb 5, 2003
Is this woman a Russian transplanted in Sweden? I agree that this sounds a lot like some of the Russian scam sites. Her response sounds very Russian also. Title: Russian born in Jamaica residing in Norway?LOL!!NT Post by: Frank O on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by littlebhuddha on Feb 6, 2003
Sorry man couldn't resist that one! Title: Re: Russian born in Jamaica residing in Norway?LOL!!NT Post by: Frank O on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Russian born in Jamaica residing in Norw..., posted by Frank O on Feb 6, 2003
Let's see again a Russian born in Jamaica or has Jamaican blood somewhere residing in Norway running a business dealing with Colombian ladies catering to upper class American men? Does that about cover it! LOL!!! Title: Re: Re: Russian born in Jamaica residing in Norway?LOL!!NT Post by: Cali vet on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Russian born in Jamaica residing in ..., posted by Frank O on Feb 6, 2003
No no, Sweden. Ya mon, a Jamaican Swede. Maybe she had a hand in getting her jaimacano compatriots into bob sled racing. Title: Didn't she say $450 buys dinner in Norway? LOL!! Post by: Frank O on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Russian born in Jamaica residing..., posted by Cali vet on Feb 6, 2003
Maybe I was laughing too hard at the letter. Title: Re: Didn't she say $450 buys dinner in Norway? LOL!! Post by: lswote on February 07, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Didn't she say $450 buys dinner in Norwa..., posted by Frank O on Feb 6, 2003
Yeah, she said it. And I thought prices in the US were bad! Title: We should write Post by: wizard on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Russian born in Jamaica residing in ..., posted by Frank O on Feb 6, 2003
a screen play and sell it to Hollywood... This scenario is a lot more entertaining than some of the crap they create!!! lol... Title: Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY Post by: jim c on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by bogota vet on Feb 5, 2003
This scenario sounds like the traditional russian scam. Who on this list for more than a month doesn't know not to send money to a girl he has never met. Why would anyone send money to someone in sweden for a girl in Colombia. This string is ridiculeous and the responses are childish. No one here needs to defend oneself against an agency or vice-versa. He said-she said, only makes both parties look childish. Consider getting scamed a learning process and Agency Owners should be aware that they can't please everyone. If you don't understand read the archives or the russian scam list. At one time there was a gringo in Cali running a list that had photos of a house in Cuba and the girls photos and bios stolen from the net. The guy's agency existed only on the net. JIM C Title: Re: Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY Post by: bogota vet on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by jim c on Feb 6, 2003
[This message has been edited by bogota vet] The money sent to Sweden is for the agency fee. Anyway, I will go back to forgetting about this agency, just a bad mistake by me to ever join. Now at least other gringos will know what they are getting into with this agency, and the extra costs/fees involved. Title: I always believed the US has a good justice system Post by: tropicalmates on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by bogota vet on Feb 5, 2003
Wow A personal best Steve, Guess you did it as promise, Do we feel damaged, no becasue our clients do not come from middle class America, afterall You friend must have told you this? What else did you say let me see, that girls are asking you for money, Oh I did not ask you for money Dear I asked for my membership fee which u paid and I have never been in contact with you, you were the ones asking ladies to take you semi-nude pics atleast that is what I was told and u sent money to pay for it... Have you sent anything for me? You were not comfortable to call the ladies, he two or three times a week that you can call the girls at the agency office and believed it in yourself to give them a mobile and you were told probably a good idea, which I think you did, afterall you did not send me moneyfor that you sent it to get the mobiles in Colombia. I think you said $450, well $450 is what it cost to buy a good dinner here in stockholm for one person. I am been led to believe that the average American man would not be able to get married at home, if they actual support your theory on things, as I said they always believe the dummys who for whatever reason cooked up a story. I think you did not just find a woman when you joined our agency you sent her us her picture and as soon as she finds you out she is going to leave you dear becasue you are crazy.like those who agree with you here . Why dont you state the problem YOU personally have with us, until now you are yet to do so, becasue you of yourself dont. We cannot force anylady to write you if you ask for exotic pictures and she is turned off. You like many American men think that these ladies are french maids without needs and wants they are there as your property, to be active and respond to you at your command, well other places may have submissive and desperate women we do not, that is not the woman we go for, we go for the woman that is strong, liberated and educated, one who can function in third world Colombia as in the 1st world, not the submissive housewife. If you have a problem with that then find a woman at home. You mentioned people asking for your money for room, everyone has their rules which are clearly stated, and it is for you to decide if you want to live it or not, and dont Blame anyone if you cannot afford $105 and call yourself a man, our company was not designed for people like you steve. The man that has been travelling for years without ever having a relationship that lasted longer than his trip. You are a devious and eeil person, what if I were to start making hell for you at your work, how would that feel* That is just a question, dont have to answer, Well if the owner of the borad wants to block my Ip after this then that is okay, I have already said my peice but one should not draw conclusion until they know both sides of a story or the motives behind the story. You mention unprofessionalism, was you Secetary of state unprofessional when he brought his evidence before the Un yesterday, pictures, intercepted calls and notes, so why am I unprofessional when I bring mine, you emails to people full of nothing but lies. Is this how Americans are raised? Let me ask, for the person who said I damaged the reputation of tropicalmates, again i will say, it is a service that I like doing to help genuine people searching for a mate, not fools, and our clients are not american based and are not stupid loosers. I do not depend on the agency for a living, since someone made this personal, it is just an enviornment I like working in.... with intelligent. Finally one should not try to live above their means, if you cannot afford a full service do not pay for half and that is the mistake you made, what is $365? nothing, and finally if I were you a frequent traveller to Colombia, I would not mess with people who live there...... By the way, you might need a lawyer who knows how to challenge a slander case because where I am from our government back us 100% . That is the good thing about America everyone can prove there case before a panel of his peers. I dont take your stupidness lightly, that is the Jamaican blood in me...... Finally, I only post as me, I do not post as anyone else, and becasue the people on the board do not want to hear the other side to the story, they erase a younga man's post, but that was what Steve promised so I guess everyone here is the same...well those who had something to say. I was trying to delete my membership but that was not possible so do me the Title: Nelson knows Roberto Post by: bogota vet on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I always believed the US has a good just..., posted by tropicalmates on Feb 6, 2003
[This message has been edited by bogota vet] Nelson Grisales, a respected agency owner in Bogota, knows the man who runs the agency in Colombia. And it is not pretty !!! But I will let him tell you guys if he wishes. Nelson is the manager of probably the most reputable , well liked agency in Colombia. It is located in Bogota. www.latinintro.com Title: What a moron?! Post by: Frank O on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I always believed the US has a good just..., posted by tropicalmates on Feb 6, 2003
What a way to run a agency. Bring up a thread on a subject no one here knows about & destroy your own agencies reputation. THEN turn around & blame Steve & the forum? Way to go. As for our SOS just get ready for us to take over Iraq & ask who's next. Title: This lady is crazy!!! Post by: bogota vet on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I always believed the US has a good just..., posted by tropicalmates on Feb 6, 2003
[This message has been edited by bogota vet] My post is stating facts. Patrick do not delete my post. Patrick, Look how the ladyowner in Sweden responds. I think everyone can see this is an agency with problems, Do not worry I have amigas in Bogota and Cali!!!! Patrick, that is crazy , I never ask for any exotic/semi-nude pics EVER. I think the agency must have some enemies that she doesn't know about, Title: oh by the way Post by: Golden on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I always believed the US has a good just..., posted by tropicalmates on Feb 6, 2003
Patrick is doing you a favor by deleting all these ....it keeps you from showing your a**. Title: Re: I always believed the US has a good justice system Post by: Golden on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I always believed the US has a good just..., posted by tropicalmates on Feb 6, 2003
Now this agencey has some serious issues ...ha ha ha..Patrick will delet this one quick...ha ha ha....I can see she doesnt like Americans ...thats plain, well at least the middle class ones, who cant afford her services as she basicly puts it .... ...where in the H E double hockey sticks did you find this place bogata vet?? Uhhhhhgggg dont find anymore of em ...ha ha ha.......probably only reason she can afford Sweden is because she rips off middle class America with her scams...and i think she does need the money or she wouldnt be reacting so badly...ha ha ha....(personaly, i highly doubt she is Swedish)....PS.....Can we turn back the clock and let the Germans during WWII keep her itty bitty part of Sweden if she is really from there ... Title: I first learned about Tropicalmaets from Patrick's website listing Post by: bogota vet on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I always believed the US has a good ..., posted by Golden on Feb 6, 2003
The website is on this PL listing, Patrick should delete them from the listing, because you look and see what happens. I was very very careful only to point our factual things about the agency, and to NOT slander.
Also the ladyowner in Sweden has never even been to Colombia, another member of the agency just told me. Be sure to ask for references from this agency or any agency. Title: There was another idiot on this board from there... Post by: Frank O on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I always believed the US has a good ..., posted by Golden on Feb 6, 2003
that had that same condenscending attitude towwards Americans. Oh well, must be an inferiority factor inherent in that countries population. I stil don't understand why she would bring it up on this forum & damage herself when NO ONE ELSE had even had a SINGLE thread mentioning them!!! LOL!! What brilliance! Title: Re: There was another idiot on this board from there... Post by: gmelo76 on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to There was another idiot on this board fr..., posted by Frank O on Feb 6, 2003
dude you are so silly she is not damaging her self. she told you if you read she dont mess with middle class by reading your post i can see why please please close your mouth you are messing it up for the guys like me who want a top notch ladie not just a well i wont say. Title: TROLL... Post by: wizard on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: There was another idiot on this boar..., posted by gmelo76 on Feb 6, 2003
[This message has been edited by wizard] You know, I've always been told not to feed the trolls, but in this case I can't resist... You have been a member here since January 2003, you have made seven posts since you've been here... Let's take a look... Posted by gmelo76 on 01/17/2003 "has any of you guy ever used tropicalmates.com the ladies they offer a wonderful choices any feed back on them? they prices are high 500 just to talk to a single ladie only by email if you want to meet a ladie thats 1800 wow i just think that a lil steep but like i said they are fine but if any has any two cents please ad thanks in advance "
"my mistake you can talk to up to 8 women in a single year by far they have the best latin women on the net i think it is worth it "
"when you guys find the women of your dreams just enrolll her in english classes do this while you are waiting on your visa paer work bull then when she arrives she will speak good english and can start a job if she wants sooner its only like 50 usd a month "
"dude you are so silly she is not damaging her self. she told you if you read she dont mess with middle class by reading your post i can see why please please close your mouth you are messing it up for the guys like me who want a top notch ladie not just a well i wont say."
wizard Title: And one half gringo half Latino/HIspanic LOL!! Post by: Frank O on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Title: Si eres Roberto por que mejor... Post by: Frank O on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: There was another idiot on this boar..., posted by gmelo76 on Feb 6, 2003
paras con tus mamaditas culero?! No todos estamos tan pendejos guey. A la mejor los gringos que no saben espanol pero nosotros que si sabemos no tamos tan estupidos babozo. Title: Help yourself to them dude! Post by: Frank O on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: There was another idiot on this boar..., posted by gmelo76 on Feb 6, 2003
I'm not stopping you from helping yourself. I think everyone here more or less agrees the "lady" (that's with y not ie at the end dude) & I use that term loosely damaged her agencies rep in a forum where no one seemed to know anything about the scam. Title: Re: Re: There was another idiot on this board from there... Post by: DallasSteve2 on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: There was another idiot on this boar..., posted by gmelo76 on Feb 6, 2003
dude i have to agree with the others she's damaging her rep here with most of the readers dude how's he messing it up for guys like you dude with your english skills and lack of punctuation you should have no trouble finding a top notch ladie or maybe even a lady later dude Steve Title: Re: Re: Re: There was another idiot on this board from there... Post by: bogota vet on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: There was another idiot on this ..., posted by DallasSteve2 on Feb 6, 2003
DallasSteve, gmelo does not seem to write like American english, Hmmmmmmm??? I'll let you decide !!!!! I wonder if it could be Roberto himself ???!!! Title: Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY Post by: Golden on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by bogota vet on Feb 5, 2003
Sounds like a lot of hidden cost to me and they sucker someone in so they can get their money....like a money scam. Thats what it sounds like to me. I damn sure wouldnt send money to a woman I never met. Hell no.....ha ha ha...NOT.......and as far as paying for the room in advance....thats shady, besides I would want to see it in person first. Matter fact, I dont think I would pay for jack, untill I went down there to check things out. A lot can be said for seeing a place with your own two eyes. even then I would keep my eyes and ears open. And if an agencey started to charge me other things and didnt tell me up front..and knowing I would need those things later, just so they can jack me around for more money....well I'd be just plain pissed off and might take a trip to Sweden, if it happened to me. (if all this is true in first place) .....I would check out more than one agencey too. I would probably call the agencey first, then I would ask for some gringo refrences, and then I would ask people here. I would have serveral I would check out....I believe in back up plans. .........Well Im married, so I dont have to worry about it.....I would just be careful guys. Title: Re: Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY Post by: bogota vet on February 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by Golden on Feb 6, 2003
[This message has been edited by bogota vet] The agency (ownerlady in Sweden)wants all the money up front, it is not an agency where you can just show up, everything has to be prepaid. So if you don't like it , there is really nothing you can do about. Too late for me I already paid, but susequently found a girl in Bogota, so I am OK. I never even bother to worry about this, until someone asked me this agency. Only send money down to Roberto AFTER you have been there, NEVER before your visit. (even then be wary) I could say a lot more, but I want keep every comment as objective as possible. Title: Re: WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY Post by: Cali vet on February 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to WARNING ABOUT TROPICALMATES AGENCY, posted by bogota vet on Feb 5, 2003
Bogota Vet this sounds fishy. You have always been an articulate writer on this board. I haven't seen so many capital letters since the Hoda persona posted. Maybe your response was rushed. Any way the issues with this agency certainly call to mind the famous Hal Wenz of Bogota though I don't think he's been heard from in a couple of years. As to sending money to a girl who is being threatened by the paras well they'd only be interested in castigating a young single woman if she was a whore and spreading aids around or selling drugs to children or something along those lines so probobly pesos down the drain. And as to the man named Roberto, the planet-love community stands forwarned! |