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Title: Just thoughts... Post by: deatchef on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM WOW! Columbians falling right into your lap!
Well, I would like to go to Columbia because the women there are gorgeous and itchin to get out, but I wouldn't take the chance traveling there now. I have recently been checkin out the girls at brazilgirls.com and i think they are more beautiful than Columbians and and Ukrainians Combined, (IMO) but it is very expensive to travel there for me and I'm really just due for a vacation ,and am not "loaded" (I'm a chef) so I'm probably going to Dom. Republic. I have a friend who lives there. Air is $238 /rt from Newark so I think I will do that or an all inclusive for 7 nights in Puerto Plata at the Jack Tar Village resort . (Over 18 only, no children) for $708... Can't beat that! Either way, my wife is in Brasil and I will find her within the next 2 years!!!! Title: Re: Just thoughts... Post by: Bueller on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Just thoughts..., posted by deatchef on Feb 22, 2002
Seconding Mark here, have you checked out prices to Brazil? Airfares are not that bad-- Iīm going there for a little over $500: Valencia-Madrid-São Paulo-Curitiba. Others have mentioned cheaper fares than that going from the U.S. If youīre sold on Brazil, get the Lonely Planet Brazilian phrasebook, pick a destination, and go down and find some "talking dictionaries" to practice with! And yes, you can beat $708, by staying in pensionatos for $20 a night and getting your fun and entertainment by going out and meeting people. And forget LatinEuro/BrazilGirls. Or at least be aware of the problems people have had with them. Go south, young man, way south! Title: Re: Re: Just thoughts... bueller tell me... Post by: deatchef on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Just thoughts..., posted by Bueller on Feb 22, 2002
more about these pensionatos if you will.. or even if there are $40/night one or two stars to stay at... Can I get the Lonely planet Brazilian phrasebook from amazon? thanks deatchef Title: Re: Lonely Planet and Amazon Post by: Bueller on February 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Just thoughts... bueller tell me..., posted by deatchef on Feb 22, 2002
A pensionato is like a B&B, more or less. Iīve got a Brazilian friend nearby and she recommended I stay at one while looking for an apartment because of the great value. That may or may not be what you want while you are on vacation. A great place to ask about lodging in Brazil, once you know where in Brazil youīre going, is the South America branch of the Thorn Tree bulletin board at www.lonelyplanet.com. You can order the Brazilian phrasebook from the Lonely Planet site, but I got mine from Amazon. The phrasebook is a great way to start and to be able to fumble your way around Brazil. Last night I spent some time over at my friendīs house working on pronunciation with her and her niece, and if you can find a local brasiliero/a to coach you on pronunciation before you go, that would be a big help. If you want to start really learning the language, here are the other books I recently bought to get started, and you can look up the customer reviews on Amazon: 501 Portuguese Verbs, by John J. Nitti and Michael J. Ferreira Title: what kind of problems with brazilgirls???n/t Post by: deatchef on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM Title: Re: problems with brazilgirls/LatinEuro Post by: Bueller on February 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to what kind of problems with brazilgirls??..., posted by deatchef on Feb 22, 2002
Brazilgirls and LatinEuro are the same enterprise. To read about problems with them, click on archive #78 above, and see the thread "Brazil vs. Colombia Women" started by David W on 2/10, and the two-message thread I started on 2/3 titled "Hmmm...strange." Iīm not saying donīt use them at all, but do be aware of these issues. Title: Forgetting BrazilGirls.com Post by: MarkInTx on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Just thoughts..., posted by Bueller on Feb 22, 2002
I would love to forget them... But, what is the choice? Hanging around shopping malls and trying to pcik omeone up with falty portuguese and a phrasebook seems awfully risky to me. You are going to Brazil? Where? How did you find the women you are meeting? I am open to suggestions... I just haven't heard of anyone who has had much success... Title: Re: Forgetting BrazilGirls.com Post by: Bueller on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Forgetting BrazilGirls.com, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 22, 2002
Yeah, you have a point that a week isnīt long enough for that kind of approach. But at any rate, if deatchef is sold on Brazil he should visit on vacation and scout it out a little at least. Iīm going to be living there for a while and studying Portuguese. Maybe I should start a local agency while Iīm there, since there is such a need. Since I post as Bueller here, I can be the "Big B" of Planet Love: "Come on, you knuckleheads, forget Colombia and come to Brazil, where the women are Amazons and theyīll turn you every which way blah blah blah..." :-) Seriously, the thought has crossed my mind, but I donīt think running an agency is really my thing. But maybe I could do something just for the PL and LWL guys who are interested in Brazil but are holding back because of the lack of help. A Geocities site like Sylvia Oliver had, perhaps, and dealing with women from SP southward so a guy could focus on one region of the country. Any thoughts on that? Title: I'm going South Big Post by: deatchef on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Forgetting BrazilGirls.com, posted by Bueller on Feb 22, 2002
Open the Agency with Mark!!! I'll be your Chef, and your Personal Chef!!! Title: Big B that is !!! N/T Post by: deatchef on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM Title: Donīt call me Big B-- I was joking LOL Post by: Bueller on February 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Big B that is !!! N/T, posted by deatchef on Feb 22, 2002
I was kidding about calling myself Big B. The owner of fire&passion posts on LWL under that name. If youīve read his posts, heīs really "out there" and kind of obnoxious, and that was the joke. :-) Well, Mark has given me some interesting ideas to chew over. Title: Re: Donīt call me Big B Post by: deatchef on February 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM Title: Thoughts Post by: MarkInTx on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Forgetting BrazilGirls.com, posted by Bueller on Feb 22, 2002
Plenty! I have given some serious thoughts about this as well. When are you going? If you are serious, drop me a line at: markjoel60@hotmail.com Lets brainstorm... Title: Re: Forgetting BrazilGirls.com Post by: Cali vet on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Forgetting BrazilGirls.com, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 22, 2002
I don't recall anyone posting on this board who is married to a Brazilian or even betrothed to one but maybe I missed his posts. Title: Well, I'm Engaged. Plan to get married this year. Post by: HappyInBrazil on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Forgetting BrazilGirls.com, posted by Cali vet on Feb 22, 2002
I met my fiancee through LatinEuro. For me, I liked the correspondence approach, because I think you can determine if there is a genuine friendship between you before you meet. I'm happy with the results but I can also see how a lot of things have to happen right along the way for people to succeed, no matter what approach they use. I'm sure there are others, maybe they just don't follow this board. Title: Huh? Post by: MarkInTx on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Just thoughts..., posted by deatchef on Feb 22, 2002
John, If your wife is in Brazil... what are you doing in the Dominican Republic? I don't understand that... for the difference of a couple hundred dollars, you're going to waste a week's vacation and go to a place that you aren't interested in... just cause its cheap? Hey... I'll bet it's REAL cheap to go to Afghanastan. And the women there are taking off their veils now, and everything... I mean... if you want to go to the Dominican Republic... great. But just to go because its cheaper seems shortsighted. Save up your money and go where you want to go... IMHO Title: Re: Huh? Post by: deatchef on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Huh?, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 22, 2002
Your so right Mark, It must have been 2 am when i posted that "thoughts message" after swooshing around from mexicanmatch..., intro's by Danilda, brazilgirls etc... I am definately not going to DR. I suppose I was grobbeling about money because I just bought a house (my 1st) and was thinkin about saving for the right time (like when I have 5 solid women lined up and speak a little portugese, but F it, I'm goin'!!!! Cost is around $557 from 5-16 to 5-26; from what i see on hotwire, (travelocity is $708) (Philly to Rio Thanks for bringing me to my senses Mark, and others... I realize i need money to get married... That's not hard to figure out. She is in Brasil you know. I just may stay and cook there, you never know, (Although, I'm a personal chef and "cater" to the upperclass. I suppose I could find some of them there too!) [Hey, I'll be the Chef at your new Agency/resort in Brasil!!!] Title: Donīt forget your visa to Brazil Post by: Bueller on February 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Huh?, posted by deatchef on Feb 22, 2002
You do need to get one before you go the first time, although itīs valid for five years. The basic fee is about $60. Be sure to leave yourself a few weeks for the process, or be prepared to pay an expediting service. Iīve heard you have to go to the embassy in person, but the embassy in Barcelona is letting me do mine by mail. My brasiliera friend called them on my behalf. She has been a godsend, and as I mentioned before, I met her because I ruined my favorite sweatshirt in a kitchen mishap and then met her at the clothing store where she works. Teo Title: Dunno if a Visa is a big deal Post by: MarkInTx on February 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Donīt forget your visa to Brazil, posted by Bueller on Feb 23, 2002
Of course, my company is handling it...so what do I know. But they ust started working on it and I'm going in two weeks. They seemed to think that 10 days was plenty, and they've done this before. It's actually being handled through Amex travel FWIW Title: Re: Donīt forget your visa to Brazil Post by: Bueller on February 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Donīt forget your visa to Brazil, posted by Bueller on Feb 23, 2002
Here are two recent threads on the Thorn Tree about someone trying to get a visa to Brazil. They are somewhat contradictory, but you might want to read them before they expire and get pulled: http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/thorn/repliesflat.pl?Cat=&Topic=568833 http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/thorn/repliesflat.pl?Cat=&Topic=567520&view=expanded&sb=5 Title: Last Year, my experience was you CAN get a visa by mail. Post by: HappyInBrazil on February 23, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Donīt forget your visa to Brazil, posted by Bueller on Feb 23, 2002
In reading the thorntree threads, I get the impression that it's difficult to get a tourist visa to Brazil. This was not my experience last year when I recieved mine. This was while in the US, so I really don't know about when you are travelling and try to get one overseas. You can download the application and list of requirements over the internet. Just be sure to send your paperwork to the correct office. Anyway, here's the link to get anyone started, if they are interested. http://www.brazilmiami.org/consulado/English/EnglishVersion.htm As I remember I went to the Post Office and you can send your application (which includes your passport) with return reciept requested and the things you need for the SASE, which I don't remember all the details. As I remember, it took 2 or 3 weeks. BUT I would recommend getting it as soon as possible, in case of delays. Also, if you are in Brazil, my impression is that your 90 day extension (if you want to stay more than the initial 90 days) is pretty much assured. Just go to the Federal Police with your passport, your return ticket, and a credit card. Hope That Helps Title: Re: Huh? Post by: stefang on February 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Huh?, posted by MarkInTx on Feb 22, 2002
If you can't afford to go to Brazil then how are you going to afford a wife? Remember she in all likelyhood will need a minimum of 6 months to acclimate to our ways and culture. This means you will have to pay for all her womanly needs and also the phone calls. Brazilians are very warm and friendly with their mothers. She will want to call home probably about three times a week. I would check with the guys already married what the exact expenses would be but it won't be cheap in the beginning. Another car? Furniture? Baby? Hairdressers, Women always cost more? At least you can cook for her a big plus. Good luck and if you do go to Brazil she may persuade you to move there a chef should be able to find a job, you are in one of those global professions that allows you to travel. |