Title: My Colombian expierences Post by: Yours truly on August 30, 2001, 04:00:00 AM As everybody at this board could read for a long time I was in love with a Colombian girl. A girl living in Cali, at that time running her own dating agency associated with The Love Computer from Mexico. I met her because I was writing at that time with a girl of this agency. She had a little son and his father left her because he could get a better job. She told she never wanted to see this man again to me and my friends. She worked at that time at CIAT and the father also.
Finally we met first time in Venezuela and after in Holland. Here started this nightmare when I found a letter she send by mail to this Fritz, a real filthy letter. I asked her to explain but she didn't want to and so I ended this relationship. Simply because the most important in a relation is honesty. From that time there was nothing then silence and I discovered a lot things which wasn't true. At CIAT nobody knows her and different people wanted to help me and find answers. These people told me later they didn't dare to search more because they didn't know where they will land in. After 3 months suddenly a girl Maritza appeared and she wanted to help me. I didn't asked for help but soon it was clear it was Occiery Gallego Ospina. After a while the same picture appeared at Walter Trotters "The Love Computer" Maritza's real name was Dora Janeth and she was living in Palmira, a little city near El Cerrito, the place Occiery's mother lived. In January I arrived in Cali and started to search for Occiery's address. Her company Servinet SA working for Walter Trotter was not known in any way. Her mothers address could only be found by knowing her phone number. I called them several times but Occiery's sister Dolly always hooked up the phone. Her mother finally agreed I could visit. So I did and Occiery standing in the door ran to the back when she saw me. We talked and I never heard so many lies. She became friends with Maritza she told me. She looked at my hand full of eczema of her doings but did not show any emotions. In those 2,5 weeks I was there I never saw people with so less emotions, so unfriendly and so cold. Even when a friend of me disappeared and I called for help this whole family didn't want to help, one phone call was to much for them. Carmelita, your friend was worried about all this. She never thought all this was possible. She hates you only because of your actions and your promises to her. I started to ask back my belongings as you promised me in your first letter. To ask back my engagement ring as you didn't need it anymore. To pay back your phone bill as you promised me. Sometimes there came an answer like "this is my last message and then I will close this account" Everything you tried to close a line. I only tried to end this relation in a good way. When nothing worked I talked with immigrations and had to fill in a lot of papers which will make it impossible for you to travel again to Europe. When you asked for a new change immigrations told me to talk with you in order to see what you really want. At that time it already was decided you will never get a visa anymore, simply because there is no honesty in you. I continued to ask for my belongings and found a lot of abuse these women do to honest men. You will not hear me say all Colombian women are in this way but there are to many of them in Colombia. So I talked with Peruvian girls, Chilean girls and also Venezuelan girls. My God what do they talk bad about the Colombians, and they only talk about the attitude these girls are having. They don't have money for nothing but wants everything you can wish. It's unbelievable how they abuse men. This explains also all the bad stories about the Colombian dating agencies. Walter Trotter, the friend of Occiery also didn't answer anymore and explained in his last message he didn't know this girl although she worked for him. He closed the agency. I was thinking I have to warn honest people for this kind of abuse. A kind of abuse nobody takes responsibility for. They all simply disappear. Together with some people I met we founded some forums about Colombian dating agencies, a website with honest information about the dating scene in Colombia. A website and forum no owner of a dating agency could manipulate. They are still running and the people who run them now are still active in it. Examples like this one are in the news and everybody is quiet when they read about the "friendly professional Colombian girls". Unbelievable they all say. And this year, again a question for a new change, without being honest and open. Without answering my questions and without answering in a honest way. Ignoring questions and only answering what she wants. Again keeping things vague and not clearing things. Suddenly she is running a own company, firing 20 people and then closing the company. I asked the Dutch embassy about this company but they couldn't find anything. Martha, I met her in my search tried to find my answers. I talked about a year with her. She disappeared suddenly after she had contact with Occiery. The e-mail address she used in the past, a real address still accepts all messages, but Occiery only uses anonymous mail addresses. The kind who doesn't show the real provider. In the time I know Occiery, she used already 8 providers, all anonymous, not traceable. Her old real address she doesn't respond to. It's a sure a big secret she is hiding, it's more worth then me. More worth then sending back my belongings. All her mails are talking about a marriage, about being together, about our future. But why should I marry a woman who doesn't want to be honest, who doesn't want to explain, who always delays everything we plan to be together. Who invites me to travel to her country for marrying her but stops everything. Invite me although she knows I won't come. Who won't be honest and is so sad in the money she won't send back my stuff. All kind of things she tried to let me believe I was, but she is herself. Again I want to ask you Occiery, to send back my belongings and end this as an adult person, as a professional. Title: Re: My Colombian expierences Post by: newby Jim on September 01, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to My Colombian expierences, posted by Yours truly on Aug 30, 2001
"After 3 months suddenly a girl Maritza appeared and she wanted to help me. I didn't asked for help but.." You were right to cut your losses and run when ya did. But... read the above statement again and again and tell me what's wrong here.. I'm not throwing stones here.. I learned this very same lesson from a brown-eyed scammer myself. Be careful !! Title: Re: Re: My Colombian expierences Post by: Johan on September 01, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: My Colombian expierences, posted by newby Jim on Sep 1, 2001
Simply it's my story and Maritza was invented by my "girlfriend" Occiery Gallego Ospina. Why she invented this girl I don't know. Walter Trotter put Maritza on his website but never responded on my questions. Now he is telling he never knows Occiery Gallego Ospina but she was running a agency for him in Cali. That's how I met her. Title: Your message seems a little inappropriate Post by: HappyIdiot on August 31, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to My Colombian expierences, posted by Yours truly on Aug 30, 2001
Hi, I'm not really sure if posting for the return of your personal belongings fits within the purpose of this board. I don't think it really does, but my opinion does not carry the same follow through as when the moderator makes that decision. Whether your story is accurate and based in reality or not may not be as important as getting some help that is beyond the scope of this forum. Good luck to you, and I truly feel sympathy for your struggles. Title: Re: Your message seems a little inappropriate Post by: Johan on September 01, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Your message seems a little inappropriat..., posted by HappyIdiot on Aug 31, 2001
It's not the purpose to ask back my belongings at this board. I didn't post them here but it's ok it's posted here. It's shows another view of Colombia and their beautiful girls. I feel bad because this kind of girls excists. Johan Title: And what was your responsibility in all this? n/t Post by: HappyIdiot on September 03, 2001, 04:00:00 AM Title: Re: My Colombian expierences Post by: buzzy on August 31, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to My Colombian expierences, posted by Yours truly on Aug 30, 2001
"I loved a lass, a fair one, as fair as e'er was seen, She was indeed a rare one, Another Sheeba queen, But, fool as then I was, I thought she loved me too, But now, alas she's left me, ....falero...lero...loo...."(G.Wither, 1588). Title: Re: My Colombian expierences Post by: El Diablo on August 30, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to My Colombian expierences, posted by Yours truly on Aug 30, 2001
Sorry about your problems truly. The best thing to do in my opinion after a bad experience is just to move on. No use wasting your time and valuable energy investigating this tangled web, cut your losses and do not have further contact with these people. At a certain point, you yourself become responsible for continuing to deal with people of this type. There are decent women in Colombia, when you identify a bad one, forget about her and move on to more healthy type relationships. El Diablo Title: Re: Re: My Colombian expierences Post by: Johan on September 01, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: My Colombian expierences, posted by El Diablo on Aug 30, 2001
Sure I will move on. I just felt bad because this kind of people are on this planet Explaining how much they love you (she did it for 3 years) and they are running dating agencies in Cali. Explaining how bad life is in colombia and how bad they are treated by their men. More how people like Walter Trotter and his Love Computer are maniputating you, honest people searching for their soulmate. Of course there are decent women in Colombia, but are they the one you will find on the net. Occiery explained she was poor and didn't had money, these days she is Johan Title: Re: My Colombian expierences Post by: Richard Smith on August 30, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to My Colombian expierences, posted by Yours truly on Aug 30, 2001
Yours Truly write: "Together with some people I met we founded some forums about Colombian dating agencies, a website with honest information about the dating scene in Colombia. A website and forum no owner of a dating agency could manipulate. They are still running and the people who run them now are still active in it." WHAT'S THE WEB ADDRESS? I DON'T KNOW THERE WAS SUCH A THING. Title: Re: Re: My Colombian expierences Post by: Johan on September 01, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: My Colombian expierences, posted by Richard Smith on Aug 30, 2001
The webaddress: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/latin_women Think you are searching this one Johan Title: Re: Re: My Colombian expierences Post by: pack on August 30, 2001, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: My Colombian expierences, posted by Richard Smith on Aug 30, 2001
i agree with Richard if there is such a site tell us where to find it. |