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As I looked into the distance, I saw a women walking toward me. She was dressed all in black, tight black pants with a black top and high heels. Next to her was another woman......pushing a baby stroller. As the women approached I could see that the woman in black was carrying a small baby. It was Sandra with the baby. Did she get pregnant and have a baby? As she approached me, she smiled and said hola. I asked if this was her baby? She smiled and laughed and handed the baby to the baby's mother. No, she's not mine, did I scare you?? I said, well yes. I met the other girl and asked if she would like to talk. She said yes and we went to talk about........whatever came up. I asked her how she had been and she told me she had thought of me everyday since she had come back to Colombia. This surprised me because I thought she wanted to be in Colombia. I know that this was difficult and dangerous for her and for me. I was a year later now and my spanish ahd improved 100%.We could talk easily now and understood each other. As the hours went by, we talked about what had happened a year ago. I won't go into details, that would take to long. To summarize, she was very afraid when we married and wanted to be a good wife but had so many complications in her life that she was never free to concentrate on us. I asked about her step-mother in-law. she was the woman that sold the "boyfriend " my phone numbers and through fear and threats convinced Sandra to return to Colombia. Sandra said it wasn't the step-mother in-law that sold my numbers, it was that guy that translated at Latin Love!!! She couldn't remember his name.....I said was it Edgar?? She said yes, thats his name. I want all of you that read this post to never trust that..........Egdar. He is the biggest snake in the world and will do anything for money!!
As the hours went by we both began to understand each other and what happened. It was now 4:30am and she had to go before he called in the morning.Sandra told me she realized what she had lost in me and she didn't care if I married Johanna, that wouldn't last. I said, how do you know? she said, I know Johanna. It will last a year or 2 and when it ended she would be waiting for me because she believed that we would be together a some point in time and be together forever. She asked if we could meet again the next night? I said sure I still had more to talk about. Then she left with the baby and both girls.
   The morning arrived and I got up about 9:00am. I needed to go to the bank. I was to meet a new chica that a friend insisted I meet. After lunch I called this chica and asked her to come to my apt. She was there in 45 min. She was very beautiful and friendly with a great personality. We spoke for a while and decided to go to a movie. After to movie we came back to the apt and this beautiful Cali chica said she wanted to spend the night with me because" she didn't want me to be lonely". Well.....I told her thanks but I wasn't ready for a sleep over. I think she thought " what's wrong with this guy" and she tried hard to make her point. We resolved the matter by me promising that I would call her tomorrow. I really wanted to talk to Sandra again. So I waited and about 12:30am I got a call from my doorman. There's 2 ladies and a baby here to see you he said. I told him send them up and waited. Sandra came in and we went into the bedroom to talk while her friend watched T.V. We spoke again for 4 more hours and worked through all  the loose ends from a year ago. She was very nervous and would jump at every noise. She was very afraid that HE would find her with me. He never did. Now it was time for her to go before the sun came up.I told her I didn't want to meet her like this. I wanted a normal life. I had a new chica that I wanted to get to know, not this midnight meeting thing. I asked Sandra if she wanted to go to a wedding with me on Saturday? She said she didn't know if she could but she would call me. I told her, she would have to show me that she was willing to take some risks to be with me. I challenged her. Show that you love me like you say you do. Let's see some action. She gave me a hug and a kiss and left.
  I was tired, I went to bed. I woke up at about 9:30 the next morning, took a shower and called the new chica. The day went by and Sandra didn't call. Wednesday came and went, then Thursday, nothing. I asked new chica if she wanted to go to the wedding on Saturday. She said yes. On Friday in the afternoon the phone rang. It was Sandra, She asked me a strange question. Would you like to see me every night. I said yes, she said she would see me tonight at 1:00am and hung up the phone. I went to a party that night and left early to meet Sandra back at my apt. At 1:00am I arrived in a taxi and walked up the stairs. As I looked into the lobby of the building I saw Sandra and the girl with the baby. Around them was luggage!!! Alot. I said what's this?? She said," you said you wanted to see me everynight. I said yes, but I didn't know it was everyday too!!!  To be Continued:   Hide and Seek

... in response to My Story Part 9, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 23, 2001

I do not want to judge you again nor any one in this board.  I do not know if you have read my letters.
In my opinion Sandra does not want to be trapped with this Narcoatraficante all her life . I was in a agency . I could tell that when a woman in the agency is datting ,a man from the agency she did not have much success attracting other man if some one in the agency knows that she is involved with a narcotraficante or another problem. The men in the agency are not going to pursue her. she can never escape this situation. She does not have other option axcept to return to you !h2h0! or there is other reason that she said  she still love you.
when you wrote that she she said. She missed you !now is my turn to think! "Of course" she does not care about Johana or if you are married otherwise, if She is in love with you She would not accept that you are whith another woman.
I know that when we are in love we don't want to listen to anyone else like me.  Good luck.

Carolina

... in response to My Story Part 9, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 23, 2001

Howard
Sorry to hear the news.
I met you in march when I was staying at Latin Love, and Later Veronica, Patricia and I met you and Johanna at the dance club.
 If you remember you gave me Juan Carlos # (Johanna's cousin)in case I needed rings. We"ll the time had come and I phoned him up to make me an engagement ring. He seemed a little quiet when I told him that you referred me.
 I hope things are better for you in the future.
 Also I would like to say thanks for letting us in on your story.
Clint

... in response to Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by El Diablo on Jul 24, 2001

All I will say is that Veronica is a very dear friend of mine, and I met a very lovely lady that trip who I am planning to marry in October.
 God you just have to love Cali!
Take care
Clint

... in response to Re: My Story Part 9, posted by cdrab on Jul 24, 2001

Thanks for your concern. Things are getting much better. Juan carlos and I still do some business together, he'll take care of you, just mention my name. Hope that you and your chica have better success that Johanna and I had.

H2-Oh

... in response to My Story Part 9, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 23, 2001

Thanks for continuing to make the point for letter writing.

... in response to Re: My Story Part 9, posted by Red Clay on Jul 23, 2001

Hey this is exciting stuff.You would rather be waiting for a letter?Yes,that would be safer(yawn).

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by Pete E on Jul 23, 2001

Back when I was single, yes, I would have preferred waiting for a letter vs. throwing thousands of dollars away on trying to buy one.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by Red Clay on Jul 23, 2001

Sorry,I couldn't pass up responding about letter writting when we were listening to an exciting story.It probably is a good idea for those who have the patience if they don't get too far out ahead before they meet the girl,and I worry some letter writers may never actually go.The other thing we might agree on is the outcome is more important than the method,but I know some think particular methods help assure the outcome,which is logical but it may not always work that way.Maybe there is something in meeting the girl that is much more powerfull.

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by Pete E on Jul 23, 2001

I agree Pete, the outcome is more important then the method. This is true for some but not all. I tend to " bake the cake " different from Houndog or El Diablo. What we are all looking for is pretty much the same thing. How we get there is up to each individual.

H2-Oh

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 23, 2001

this story is taking to long , im sure i wont hear the end before i leave for cali. i'll read it when i return.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by H2-Oh on Jul 23, 2001

H2-OH,

I recommend people be careful and take their time however I'm not setting myself up as any kind of model to follow.  My novia and I aren't even engaged nor are we planning on it anytime soon.  I'm the poster child for the overly cautious perhaps.  Ultimately though, each of us has to make choices that we will feel comfortable with ourselves.  

El Diablo

... in response to Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by Pete E on Jul 23, 2001

HD,
Love and desire is great,I'm all for that,thats what we are all looking for.About the therapy,it worked,so I suggest it to anyone who has any issues at all in their marriage.Also we had lots of sex before this,it just got better and more frequent and more in line with my expectations.I have no regrets.What allowed me to move so quickly with my wife is I could tell right away she was a very good person,and that has proved to be exactly true.
Wether your marriage was proceeded by alot of letter writting or not,its an ongoing process of discovery with each other.Being carefull may increase your chance of success,but were you really that carefull?Sounds like you just went for it with maybe a little more time getting to know the person.How many days did you spend with her person to person before the marriage?In my case it was 18 days.How are things to this point?I spilled my guts alot,and very honestly.I certainly wasn't bragging but admitting problems.I felt particularly motivated to do that because we had seen no other imput but the red hot latina to that point.Some of these girls are also very conservative.We need more feedback on real situations.

Pete

... in response to Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by Pete E on Jul 23, 2001


HD,

Is this really where we want to go, taking personal shots at each others novia's and wives?  It seems to me anyway that this forum provides a lot of lattitude for commenting on issues that we believe in.  I think we can get our points accross quite well without heading in this direction.  

El Diablo

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by El Diablo on Jul 23, 2001

Actually NO it's not where we want to go or should go. I asked Pete if he really wanted this path. Advising guys to leap before they look or to just fly south with a wad of dough and buy some love is unbelieveble at worst and poor advice at best.

I think the attacks should stop before feelings get hurt.

HD

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by Houndog on Jul 23, 2001

n/t

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My Story Part 9, posted by Houndog on Jul 23, 2001

nt